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Quote from: TheStuhlman on October 26, 2016, 09:03:12 PM

Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 09:00:54 PM

Quote from: TheStuhlman on October 26, 2016, 08:51:05 PM

is there a way to start a $1 node and start forging?

Forging isn't still enabled in the mainnet so we can't tell what the system requirements would be. But in my opinion $1 is too low.

what is the minimum, and is there a guide on starting a node?

Check this guide https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-docs/BinaryInstall
You can test your node in testnet, read the testnet channel at lisk.chat. (Currently the testnet has some issues but you can still catch up there, or you can run a mainnet node and wait till the forging starts)

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Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 09:00:54 PM

Quote from: TheStuhlman on October 26, 2016, 08:51:05 PM

is there a way to start a $1 node and start forging?

Forging isn't still enabled in the mainnet so we can't tell what the system requirements would be. But in my opinion $1 is too low.

what is the minimum, and is there a guide on starting a node?

realm

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Quote from: TheStuhlman on October 26, 2016, 08:51:05 PM

is there a way to start a $1 node and start forging?

Forging isn't still enabled in the mainnet so we can't tell what the system requirements would be. But in my opinion $1 is too low.

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Quote from: kahir on October 26, 2016, 06:39:17 PM

gratz on the delist from bitmex

wtf you are saying? lisk still listed there...
inside information or just fud?

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Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 08:45:25 PM

Me too, I just decided to join the delegate thing a little later. Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide.

Thanks dude, I'm more of a Community > Technology kinda person. Thanks man, GL to you also Cheesy

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is there a way to start a $1 node and start forging?

realm

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Me too, I just decided to join the delegate thing a little later. Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide.

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Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 08:35:01 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on October 26, 2016, 08:23:19 PM

Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 08:09:38 PM

I've been running a $10 node since July. I don't know what happened prior to that but I see the facts that I just pointed out. 1) Lisk is not ready yet 2) at this point you can run a $10 dollar node 3) the community can't handle the bugs that may occur.

1. true
2. sure right now on mainnet because genesis nodes are running all the forging spots and are stable because they are not switching ranks. What happens when we're allowed to start forging and the order of forging nodes starts to change and forks start happening again on mainnet and your $10 node is the first one to fork?
3. why does the community have to handle it? We paid Max 6 million dollars to make it work.

2. Then you get paid, and that's a lot of money. You have to upgrade to a $200 node or you get downvoted. In any case you still have a nice income.
3. As a delegate you are the one who has to handle and protect your node. Max only has to deliver a stable product (something that lisk isn't right now) and nothing more. You have to monitor your node, keep it up and updated and protect it from attacks. My point was that some members wanted to forge in an unstable mainnet without being able to deal with the requirements (keeping your node up and running)

2. your answer for 2 is garbage and doesn't answer the fundamental problem. Just because you can have a $10 node now does not mean you can forge without using a $100 node. all other nodes who are not forging are wasting energy.

3. the core code is flawed, what are the delegates to do about that?

Ok, i'm done arguing with you. No need, we can both agree to disagree but I've been here and have seen the the whole evolution of Lisk daily since like page 30 of this thread.

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Quote from: cannabanana on October 26, 2016, 08:23:19 PM

Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 08:09:38 PM

I've been running a $10 node since July. I don't know what happened prior to that but I see the facts that I just pointed out. 1) Lisk is not ready yet 2) at this point you can run a $10 dollar node 3) the community can't handle the bugs that may occur.

1. true
2. sure right now on mainnet because genesis nodes are running all the forging spots and are stable because they are not switching ranks. What happens when we're allowed to start forging and the order of forging nodes starts to change and forks start happening again on mainnet and your $10 node is the first one to fork?
3. why does the community have to handle it? We paid Max 6 million dollars to make it work.

2. Then you get paid, and that's a lot of money. You have to upgrade to a $200 node or you get downvoted. In any case you still have a nice income.
3. As a delegate you are the one who has to handle and protect your node. Max only has to deliver a stable product (something that lisk isn't right now) and nothing more. You have to monitor your node, keep it up and updated and protect it from attacks. My point was that some members wanted to forge in an unstable mainnet without being able to deal with the requirements (keeping your node up and running)

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Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 08:09:38 PM

I've been running a $10 node since July. I don't know what happened prior to that but I see the facts that I just pointed out. 1) Lisk is not ready yet 2) at this point you can run a $10 dollar node 3) the community can't handle the bugs that may occur.

1. true
2. sure right now on mainnet because genesis nodes are running all the forging spots and are stable because they are not switching ranks. What happens when we're allowed to start forging and the order of forging nodes starts to change and forks start happening again on mainnet and your $10 node is the first one to fork?
3. why does the community have to handle it? We paid Max 6 million dollars to make it work.

realm

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I've been running a $10 node since July. I don't know what happened prior to that but I see the facts that I just pointed out. 1) Lisk is not ready yet 2) at this point you can run a $10 dollar node 3) the community can't handle the bugs that may occur.

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Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 07:52:06 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on October 26, 2016, 07:23:23 PM

Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 07:09:09 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on October 26, 2016, 06:53:05 PM

Quote from: realm on October 26, 2016, 06:51:45 PM

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Quote from: vlom on October 26, 2016, 12:31:55 PM

Quote from: bitseedmike on October 26, 2016, 11:32:49 AM

Quote from: someonesomeone on October 26, 2016, 05:12:45 AM

I doubt that the price will get dumped after the Ark ICO because Ark has no intention of selling their Lisk anytime soon as far as I know... And if they manage to hit their Lisk cap that would mean that with ICN and the Lisk team there would be about 35% of LSK of the market which means that there would be a lot less sell pressure on the price...

Quote from: durrrrdwan on October 26, 2016, 05:02:33 AM

Quote from: tobsnn on October 25, 2016, 06:01:58 PM

probably the reason why lisk went up today Cheesy

Must be, but after this ico, the price will be dumped again. But people get more attentions on lisk now.

Yes, Ark is committed to Lisk for the very long haul. The Lisk will be held as a long term investment, with no plans to sell in the foreseeable future.

because ark is just a copy of lisk code? and you need lisk to develop things that ark can have new things?

Lisk is an EXACT Copy of Crypti....EXACT. We have Crypti Founders on our team. Who is copying who exactly?

Since this is the lisk thread I have to notice that lisk started as a copy of crypti. At ths moment, as I recall Oliver saying , lisk code base has nothing to do with crypti anymore.

yeah, he's been spending the past 7 months changing it. Are you even noticing testnet? Are the changes making Lisk better than Crypti right now?

I still spend almost every single day checking in on the lisk rocket chat.

I've been in testnet too. Things were going great during the last months. It's just a bug that caused the current testnet situation. In whole lisk development has gone many steps forward. I believe they try to produce some new things and not stay where crypti was. And when you do that you have to expect bugs and drawbacks. But it's the only way to be really innovative.Imo, at this moment the only problem with lisk is the delay with the legal formation.

Some of that I do agree with but your last statement that the legal issues are the only thing is false. I understand about bugs, of course they happen but there's more to it than code. The way you treat your community is the way you think about your community imo. That last thank you to a select group of people was the straw that broke the camels back as basically Max statement to the community is that only 5% of the community working on Lisk in the background is important enough to get paid a bounty and deserve a thank you even though 101 people have been spending about $20,000.00 a month for the past 7 months and countless hours keeping the lisk network alive.

a lot of people I know just walked away from lisk at that moment.

Well whoever participated in the lisk network did it as a volunteer , especially if we are talking about testnet. The $20000 per month is definitely an overstatement, you can maintain a node with $10/month and this should be enough.Also I don't see why someone with a testnet node should be paid, I had one myself and I had nothing to do other than keep it up and running. In the meantime there were members who had their nodes up while helping the development (the current alpha testers), these people in my opinion deserve a bounty. In addition I recall many members asking for forging to be enabled and a few days later we all saw what happened with the testnet. The same people who asked for the rensposibility to forge in the mainnet couldnt figure out the situation in the testnet. What do you think would have happened if they were managing the nodes in the mainnet?

Brother, you obviously were not at lisk since day one like me. We were promised running on raspberry pi but like 1 month into it was told we needed more powerful machines. I was running a $10 node, had to upgrade to a $200 node. Then some being told they are greedy for not upgrading. Get some real knowledge before hating on a subject you have no idea on. This is ALL ON MAINNET. not even talking about the servers for testnet.

I've personally never asked for a bounty, didn't even sign up to the signature bounty while it was going on. I just want the promised forging that we were supposed to be doing for like 7 months now.