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newbie
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How long does it take to process an transaction submitted in the web wallet to an external wallet?

Thank You

The process typically only takes 30 seconds to a couple minutes. If this is not the case, please contact support here: https://www.mannabase.com/about/#contact
full member
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This thread is not reviewed very often!  Sad

I review every time I get a notification, been active with manna since early on as Grantcoin and it is a wonderful project with a good team.
member
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How long does it take to process an transaction submitted in the web wallet to an external wallet?

Thank You
newbie
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What an interesting project. I will be looking out for more information, let's see another opinion giving to this project & how this project will turn out.
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For everyone new to the scene!
50,000 users already get a free share of Manna. A cryptocurrency Universal Basic Income.

This works and the more people use it the more value it gets.

Sign up with your email and then sign up and verify for Universal Basic Income with weekly distribution automatically transfered into your web wallet. You can then transfer the coins to wherever you want.

Use my ref link - the universe and I say thank you.
https://www.mannabase.com/?ref=xghxc9jm9d
newbie
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Hi Devs, tried to find button to change language on the site, but didnt find, it is a pity, say me - will you add languages to the site?

Hi,
  We are working on implementing multiple language translations for our website and whitepaper and hope to make this available soon.
newbie
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I think this is the first project related to fitness industry. Looks big and unique project.
full member
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The best advertising, this is a working product and favorable conditions. I hope developers will please us with this wish you good luck Devs.


Based on what I have seen from grantcoin and the merge to Manna, and the dev team including Brandon Venetta, this coin has a very bright future with an astounding amount of potential, slow stable, and steady growth, an expanding community, and consistent forward progress. I have watched the members grow over 4x since I got in on this project.
member
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There is nothing sure about who will block anonymous coins, yet we will see
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Dear Sir,

I just know that i have a lot of Grantcoin in bittrex. And tomorrow bittrex will delete grantcoin wallet. i want to withdraw it to southexchange, however as i know grantcoin already change to manna. What should i do?? I just sent my balance from bittrex to southxchange. but it seems not working. PLEASE HELP ME!!

Guaranteed workaround would be to download the grantcoin wallet prior to manna launch and send coins to grantcoin desktop wallet. From there download the manna wallet and transfer the wallet.dat from grantcoin to manna, and your wallet should update automatically. I'm not sure if sending directly to manna wallet would work from the exchange.

Actually i just did sent it from grantcoin wallet to southxchange wallet. And you know what? I just get MANNA coin. Thanks god. Actually it is not much. About 1000$. But i think it is enough for me to live this month. Cheesy
full member
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Dear Sir,

I just know that i have a lot of Grantcoin in bittrex. And tomorrow bittrex will delete grantcoin wallet. i want to withdraw it to southexchange, however as i know grantcoin already change to manna. What should i do?? I just sent my balance from bittrex to southxchange. but it seems not working. PLEASE HELP ME!!

Guaranteed workaround would be to download the grantcoin wallet prior to manna launch and send coins to grantcoin desktop wallet. From there download the manna wallet and transfer the wallet.dat from grantcoin to manna, and your wallet should update automatically. I'm not sure if sending directly to manna wallet would work from the exchange.
full member
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Dear Sir,

I just know that i have a lot of Grantcoin in bittrex. And tomorrow bittrex will delete grantcoin wallet. i want to withdraw it to southexchange, however as i know grantcoin already change to manna. What should i do?? I just sent my balance from bittrex to southxchange. but it seems not working. PLEASE HELP ME!!
full member
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As legion_miracle mentioned, many extraordinarily wealthy and/or well-known individuals are openly supporting UBI. While the early-adopters are forward-thinking and altruistic, other extremely wealthy individuals will eventually realize that an ever increasing wealth disparity between the ultra-rich and everyone else is not indefinitely sustainable. History has proven time and time again, that large numbers of people who are hungry, oppressed, exploited, and feel that they have nothing left to lose will eventually rebel. The rich are often targeted and their families attacked and forced to flee or are killed, and their homes looted and ransacked when those rebellions occur. From a practical standpoint, even those who currently despise the thought of “handouts” (UBI) - it is much easier to placate the masses with basic income than face future rebellions that may end in violent overthrow. In short, UBI helps keep people relatively happy, fed, clothed and housed, which in-turn allows the very rich to remain in power and enjoy their lifestyle without the threat of civil unrest.

Additionally, there are already small UBI experiments either underway or planned. The Finnish government randomly selected 2,000 unemployed Finns from across the country for a trial testing universal basic income. It started in January of 2017 and will run through the end of 2018. Many news outlets are tracking the successes and failures. I am confident that many other governments are closely watching as well.

If it can be shown that people can attain higher education, or start new businesses, or simply become less stressed or less prone to violence while receiving UBI then that will provide another big boost.  Challenges and growing pains will certainly arise out of the UBI movement, and adoption will come much sooner in some countries than in others, but when implemented correctly it seems the best solution for many of the people-related challenges we face globally.

Thanks, both of you guys brought up some interesting points and i actually had no idea how many powerful people actually support the UBI model.  Blockchain is in fact a perfect technology for this, on that I most certainly agree.  I suppose my next question would have to be, why MANNA? and why not some other project with bigger backing?  What's to stop Zuckerberg creating his own blockchain based UBI?  Manna may be the first mover on this, but realistically if anyone that powerful moves in, Manna would be almost automatically 2nd to it.

Also is there a place where I can speak to the people behind MANNA anywhere?

Why Manna? Well the obvious first answer would be that they are a first mover as you have mentioned, but I don't think this is by any stretch the best answer. The rebranding from Grantcoin to Manna was a big move that in my opinion was very well done, and looks amazing. However i think the biggest factor that puts Manna as a frontrunner is the continual growth. If you look at the Grantcoin / Manna history you will see a steady growth in use, value and registrations. The last couple cycles for Manna distribution have seen over 20,000 participants. This I believe places Manna as one of, if not the largest UBI platform to date. On top of that, Manna is not restricted to a small region as other UBI social experiments have been, giving them a heads up advantage of data on a more global scale.

I'm not saying that Manna will be the frontrunner, but they are certainly positioned well to achieve it. I strongly believe in the platform, and the development team. I have personally had the opportunity to speak with Brandon Venetta, and I could tell there was some true passion for success from the Manna team.

Well I wanna thank you for posting your reply.  I can understand the logic you have for why MANNA.  I didn't make the connection about it being the largest UBI platform to date.  I do know of all the little trials taking place in some countries around the world, but a you said this one is global.  Thanks for the insight a well about the growth and the team itself.
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As legion_miracle mentioned, many extraordinarily wealthy and/or well-known individuals are openly supporting UBI. While the early-adopters are forward-thinking and altruistic, other extremely wealthy individuals will eventually realize that an ever increasing wealth disparity between the ultra-rich and everyone else is not indefinitely sustainable. History has proven time and time again, that large numbers of people who are hungry, oppressed, exploited, and feel that they have nothing left to lose will eventually rebel. The rich are often targeted and their families attacked and forced to flee or are killed, and their homes looted and ransacked when those rebellions occur. From a practical standpoint, even those who currently despise the thought of “handouts” (UBI) - it is much easier to placate the masses with basic income than face future rebellions that may end in violent overthrow. In short, UBI helps keep people relatively happy, fed, clothed and housed, which in-turn allows the very rich to remain in power and enjoy their lifestyle without the threat of civil unrest.

Additionally, there are already small UBI experiments either underway or planned. The Finnish government randomly selected 2,000 unemployed Finns from across the country for a trial testing universal basic income. It started in January of 2017 and will run through the end of 2018. Many news outlets are tracking the successes and failures. I am confident that many other governments are closely watching as well.

If it can be shown that people can attain higher education, or start new businesses, or simply become less stressed or less prone to violence while receiving UBI then that will provide another big boost.  Challenges and growing pains will certainly arise out of the UBI movement, and adoption will come much sooner in some countries than in others, but when implemented correctly it seems the best solution for many of the people-related challenges we face globally.

Thanks, both of you guys brought up some interesting points and i actually had no idea how many powerful people actually support the UBI model.  Blockchain is in fact a perfect technology for this, on that I most certainly agree.  I suppose my next question would have to be, why MANNA? and why not some other project with bigger backing?  What's to stop Zuckerberg creating his own blockchain based UBI?  Manna may be the first mover on this, but realistically if anyone that powerful moves in, Manna would be almost automatically 2nd to it.

Also is there a place where I can speak to the people behind MANNA anywhere?

Why Manna? Well the obvious first answer would be that they are a first mover as you have mentioned, but I don't think this is by any stretch the best answer. The rebranding from Grantcoin to Manna was a big move that in my opinion was very well done, and looks amazing. However i think the biggest factor that puts Manna as a frontrunner is the continual growth. If you look at the Grantcoin / Manna history you will see a steady growth in use, value and registrations. The last couple cycles for Manna distribution have seen over 20,000 participants. This I believe places Manna as one of, if not the largest UBI platform to date. On top of that, Manna is not restricted to a small region as other UBI social experiments have been, giving them a heads up advantage of data on a more global scale.

I'm not saying that Manna will be the frontrunner, but they are certainly positioned well to achieve it. I strongly believe in the platform, and the development team. I have personally had the opportunity to speak with Brandon Venetta, and I could tell there was some true passion for success from the Manna team.
From Grantcoin to Manna, it can be seen that the project team is a group of very enthusiastic and dedicated people, striving to improve the lives of ordinary people.This is very rare in many block chain projects now, and wish all the best.
full member
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As legion_miracle mentioned, many extraordinarily wealthy and/or well-known individuals are openly supporting UBI. While the early-adopters are forward-thinking and altruistic, other extremely wealthy individuals will eventually realize that an ever increasing wealth disparity between the ultra-rich and everyone else is not indefinitely sustainable. History has proven time and time again, that large numbers of people who are hungry, oppressed, exploited, and feel that they have nothing left to lose will eventually rebel. The rich are often targeted and their families attacked and forced to flee or are killed, and their homes looted and ransacked when those rebellions occur. From a practical standpoint, even those who currently despise the thought of “handouts” (UBI) - it is much easier to placate the masses with basic income than face future rebellions that may end in violent overthrow. In short, UBI helps keep people relatively happy, fed, clothed and housed, which in-turn allows the very rich to remain in power and enjoy their lifestyle without the threat of civil unrest.

Additionally, there are already small UBI experiments either underway or planned. The Finnish government randomly selected 2,000 unemployed Finns from across the country for a trial testing universal basic income. It started in January of 2017 and will run through the end of 2018. Many news outlets are tracking the successes and failures. I am confident that many other governments are closely watching as well.

If it can be shown that people can attain higher education, or start new businesses, or simply become less stressed or less prone to violence while receiving UBI then that will provide another big boost.  Challenges and growing pains will certainly arise out of the UBI movement, and adoption will come much sooner in some countries than in others, but when implemented correctly it seems the best solution for many of the people-related challenges we face globally.

Thanks, both of you guys brought up some interesting points and i actually had no idea how many powerful people actually support the UBI model.  Blockchain is in fact a perfect technology for this, on that I most certainly agree.  I suppose my next question would have to be, why MANNA? and why not some other project with bigger backing?  What's to stop Zuckerberg creating his own blockchain based UBI?  Manna may be the first mover on this, but realistically if anyone that powerful moves in, Manna would be almost automatically 2nd to it.

Also is there a place where I can speak to the people behind MANNA anywhere?

Why Manna? Well the obvious first answer would be that they are a first mover as you have mentioned, but I don't think this is by any stretch the best answer. The rebranding from Grantcoin to Manna was a big move that in my opinion was very well done, and looks amazing. However i think the biggest factor that puts Manna as a frontrunner is the continual growth. If you look at the Grantcoin / Manna history you will see a steady growth in use, value and registrations. The last couple cycles for Manna distribution have seen over 20,000 participants. This I believe places Manna as one of, if not the largest UBI platform to date. On top of that, Manna is not restricted to a small region as other UBI social experiments have been, giving them a heads up advantage of data on a more global scale.

I'm not saying that Manna will be the frontrunner, but they are certainly positioned well to achieve it. I strongly believe in the platform, and the development team. I have personally had the opportunity to speak with Brandon Venetta, and I could tell there was some true passion for success from the Manna team.
full member
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As legion_miracle mentioned, many extraordinarily wealthy and/or well-known individuals are openly supporting UBI. While the early-adopters are forward-thinking and altruistic, other extremely wealthy individuals will eventually realize that an ever increasing wealth disparity between the ultra-rich and everyone else is not indefinitely sustainable. History has proven time and time again, that large numbers of people who are hungry, oppressed, exploited, and feel that they have nothing left to lose will eventually rebel. The rich are often targeted and their families attacked and forced to flee or are killed, and their homes looted and ransacked when those rebellions occur. From a practical standpoint, even those who currently despise the thought of “handouts” (UBI) - it is much easier to placate the masses with basic income than face future rebellions that may end in violent overthrow. In short, UBI helps keep people relatively happy, fed, clothed and housed, which in-turn allows the very rich to remain in power and enjoy their lifestyle without the threat of civil unrest.

Additionally, there are already small UBI experiments either underway or planned. The Finnish government randomly selected 2,000 unemployed Finns from across the country for a trial testing universal basic income. It started in January of 2017 and will run through the end of 2018. Many news outlets are tracking the successes and failures. I am confident that many other governments are closely watching as well.

If it can be shown that people can attain higher education, or start new businesses, or simply become less stressed or less prone to violence while receiving UBI then that will provide another big boost.  Challenges and growing pains will certainly arise out of the UBI movement, and adoption will come much sooner in some countries than in others, but when implemented correctly it seems the best solution for many of the people-related challenges we face globally.

Thanks, both of you guys brought up some interesting points and i actually had no idea how many powerful people actually support the UBI model.  Blockchain is in fact a perfect technology for this, on that I most certainly agree.  I suppose my next question would have to be, why MANNA? and why not some other project with bigger backing?  What's to stop Zuckerberg creating his own blockchain based UBI?  Manna may be the first mover on this, but realistically if anyone that powerful moves in, Manna would be almost automatically 2nd to it.

Also is there a place where I can speak to the people behind MANNA anywhere?
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As legion_miracle mentioned, many extraordinarily wealthy and/or well-known individuals are openly supporting UBI. While the early-adopters are forward-thinking and altruistic, other extremely wealthy individuals will eventually realize that an ever increasing wealth disparity between the ultra-rich and everyone else is not indefinitely sustainable. History has proven time and time again, that large numbers of people who are hungry, oppressed, exploited, and feel that they have nothing left to lose will eventually rebel. The rich are often targeted and their families attacked and forced to flee or are killed, and their homes looted and ransacked when those rebellions occur. From a practical standpoint, even those who currently despise the thought of “handouts” (UBI) - it is much easier to placate the masses with basic income than face future rebellions that may end in violent overthrow. In short, UBI helps keep people relatively happy, fed, clothed and housed, which in-turn allows the very rich to remain in power and enjoy their lifestyle without the threat of civil unrest.

Additionally, there are already small UBI experiments either underway or planned. The Finnish government randomly selected 2,000 unemployed Finns from across the country for a trial testing universal basic income. It started in January of 2017 and will run through the end of 2018. Many news outlets are tracking the successes and failures. I am confident that many other governments are closely watching as well.

If it can be shown that people can attain higher education, or start new businesses, or simply become less stressed or less prone to violence while receiving UBI then that will provide another big boost.  Challenges and growing pains will certainly arise out of the UBI movement, and adoption will come much sooner in some countries than in others, but when implemented correctly it seems the best solution for many of the people-related challenges we face globally.
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The company is of interest to many people, many investors and partners are already investing in the project and are waiting for great results.
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Hi there, I'm enthusiastic about the idea, but after digging in a little more, I have some concerns about security / development of this project...

  • The wallets page does not seem to mention Open Source, GitHub, compiling yourself, etc.  I found the source code on GitHub, but it hasn't been touched for almost a year.
  • The website does not use https, so literally everything users see / download there could be replaced by a MITM effortlessly.
  • The Android wallet is not on Google Play.  Instead it is just an APK file to download from the website (see item above).
  • Did not find GPG keys or digests for the files, so installing any of these is really dangerous (especially for anyone who might have another cryptocurrency on the same system like people here).
  • The Linux binary on the website has no file extension.  Not a big deal, but makes me wonder if anyone has ever downloaded and used it.

I have some questions about the economics / distribution, but need to read & think more.  :-)


I have looked into this coin myself and had these concerns as well as the business model of the coin itself.  The idea is nice and all but i'm not exactly sure how the execution is going to work, perhaps i'm not fully understanding how it all will work.  That being said, I do actually want to see this one succeed because well, the cause seems noble and can actually help some very poor people in their lives.
people and institutions. A second and equally formidable challenge will be changing the mindset of the masses in some countries. In the USA for example, the concept of income is very tightly bound to "earnings" or "holdings" - many people would argue that UBI equates to money for nothing and would promote laziness and/or idleness. Changing deeply ingrained mindsets can take a very long time.

However, there is a storm on the horizon that may force societal change and almost everyone to rethink UBI. The advancements in AI and automation will displace millions of workers globally and ballooning debt levels/fiscal crises will devastate many fiat currencies in the years ahead. This trifecta of upheaval may spark widespread discussion and ultimate acceptance of UBI (hopefully) or civil unrest/state collapse/failure of national governance (bad times for all involved). Let us all hope that viable UBI such as Manna comes to fruition in the near-term to prevent widespread catastrophe in the long-term.


This is an  interesting take on things.  What makes you so sure that UBI in particular is the solution to the issues you pointed out?  What good is UBI if it is easy to manipulate the value of that income as well?  I don't think the richest people in the world would allow such a thing to rise to power ahead of the old ways though, do you have a perspective on how that's possible?

With people like Mark Zuckerberg and Richard Branson talking about UBI I think the trend is already headed in that direction. Some of the stuff being said is along the lines of: UBI is the patch for the economic problems of everyday people.

Some of the wealthier crowd are already huge proponents of UBI such as Pierre Omidyar the founder of Ebay, Andrew Ng cofounder of Coursera and chief scientist at Baidu, Sam Altman president of YCombinator, CEO of Tesla and SpaceX Elon Musk, Bill Gross co-founder of pacific investment management, Ray Kurzweil co-founder of Singularity University, partner at Union Square Ventures Albert Wenger, CEO of O'Reilly Media Tim O'Reilly, Facebook Co-Founder Rick Hughes.
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Hi there, I'm enthusiastic about the idea, but after digging in a little more, I have some concerns about security / development of this project...

  • The wallets page does not seem to mention Open Source, GitHub, compiling yourself, etc.  I found the source code on GitHub, but it hasn't been touched for almost a year.
  • The website does not use https, so literally everything users see / download there could be replaced by a MITM effortlessly.
  • The Android wallet is not on Google Play.  Instead it is just an APK file to download from the website (see item above).
  • Did not find GPG keys or digests for the files, so installing any of these is really dangerous (especially for anyone who might have another cryptocurrency on the same system like people here).
  • The Linux binary on the website has no file extension.  Not a big deal, but makes me wonder if anyone has ever downloaded and used it.

I have some questions about the economics / distribution, but need to read & think more.  :-)


I have looked into this coin myself and had these concerns as well as the business model of the coin itself.  The idea is nice and all but i'm not exactly sure how the execution is going to work, perhaps i'm not fully understanding how it all will work.  That being said, I do actually want to see this one succeed because well, the cause seems noble and can actually help some very poor people in their lives.

The economics and distribution of UBI are very important considerations. A review of articles on UBI challenges and proposed solutions has led me to believe that the technical and practical aspects of UBI can and will be overcome within the next 6 to 12 months. Searching "Universal Basic Income think-tanks" led me articles and sites where many very smart people are working through many of the challenges. Fortunately cryptocurrency provides a viable solution for both distribution and decentralized control.
 
One of the largest remaining impediments, IMHO, is pushback from national governments, central banks and the rich/powerful everywhere who have greatly benefited from the current systems and practices. A new income system that reduces the power/control of those who have it is likely to face significant resistance from those same people and institutions. A second and equally formidable challenge will be changing the mindset of the masses in some countries. In the USA for example, the concept of income is very tightly bound to "earnings" or "holdings" - many people would argue that UBI equates to money for nothing and would promote laziness and/or idleness. Changing deeply ingrained mindsets can take a very long time.

However, there is a storm on the horizon that may force societal change and almost everyone to rethink UBI. The advancements in AI and automation will displace millions of workers globally and ballooning debt levels/fiscal crises will devastate many fiat currencies in the years ahead. This trifecta of upheaval may spark widespread discussion and ultimate acceptance of UBI (hopefully) or civil unrest/state collapse/failure of national governance (bad times for all involved). Let us all hope that viable UBI such as Manna comes to fruition in the near-term to prevent widespread catastrophe in the long-term.


This is an  interesting take on things.  What makes you so sure that UBI in particular is the solution to the issues you pointed out?  What good is UBI if it is easy to manipulate the value of that income as well?  I don't think the richest people in the world would allow such a thing to rise to power ahead of the old ways though, do you have a perspective on how that's possible?
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