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Topic: [ANN][MAX] MAXcoin - PoW, ASIC Resistance, Keccak GPU Mining - page 524. (Read 914323 times)

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ok how its possible to know at what price will start? the max coin? a estimated price? how many satohis?

expect miners to price this really high initially due to hype. It's becoming common where new coins are overpriced initially by miners, the prices then correct by 50% immediately once released to exchanges then they start recovering. Those who own large botnets or server CPU farms will be the biggest winners with maxcoin.
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just another altcoin   Huh
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SHA-3,looks like diffrenrent.I'll try mining this.
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it is not possible to know
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ok how its possible to know at what price will start? the max coin? a estimated price? how many satohis?
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P2P The Planet!
So 1 week premine?
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Fingers crossed those with huge GPU set-ups don't get their way and corner another coin immediately Smiley
YSH
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Interesting what you guys discuss about, but for once and all i want an official statement about the botnets.

They simply could ruin it. aside of that im sure with that media attention and max involved it could be something!
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well said, no matter which side of the argument you are on regarding Co2 driven CC, the exploitation of people and the destruction of our planet by parasitic bankers and corporations is very real and we all need to fight it.
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Do you guys REALLY think Max needs to launch his own coin?... The simple answer is NO... he has bigger fish to fry and bigger concerns to deal with.
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Has anyone noticed that this planet is being RAPED of natural resources, to an extent that it will wipe out our species within a few decades, if not sooner.
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Aaaaannddddd I want back the couple of minutes I wasted reading this tin foil hat crap.
hahahaha

Why Global Warming and Climate Change are Central issues in this thread.

It's a real shame when people quote you completely out of context to try and ridicule your position and argument from a position of complete ignorance. Its also a shame that people remain unaware why these core issues are being discussed in this thread. I can also see that people new to this thread are wondering why it took such a long 'detour' arguing about climate and global warming.

This is actually a very important tangent and NOT just dogs sniffing around a field as has been suggested...

Max Keiser is a central figure in global media and is part of an important team who are highlighting the key historical global issues of our time that other media organisations are not able to confront as they are owned by the very people who DON'T want you to know the truth.

Most of Western media is there simply to waste your time. While you write on forums, watch movies, absorb TV, re-post videos of cats dancing, add friends, upload photos, tweet 140 letters of rubbish you are doing EXACTLY what the people in control want you to do... waste your time while they create and run companies that RAPE and plunder the world's resources at the expense of mankind's future.

This process is happening right now around you, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Ancient forests that are the lungs of the world are being cut down, species that make up the unique bio-diversity of the world are disappearing forever, animals and fish that make up the unique spectrum of life on earth are being driven to extinction and every bit of fossil fuel is being extracted at a rate that is unsustainable for future generations.

There have been arguments here about whether climate change / global warming is actually happening and even if it is not happening yet we are interfering with a delicate eco-system that provides the perfect balance of sunshine, water and oxygen within critical perameters of temperature. We've evolved over millions of years along with that system and in the last few decades we have been tampering with that system... all driven by the need to sustain a material lifestyle we have become accustomed to.

Even if we do not tip the balance this year or next the population growth and supply of global resources needed to sustain economic growth and the lifestyle we have become accustomed to will inevitably lead to the collapse of nature's balance.

The key issues are not limited to global warming and climate change although these are consequences of the RAPING process that is being undertaken by the global corporates which are owned by the mega rich.

So why are these issues important in this thread?... because Max is one of the few people in this world who recognises the cataclysmic consequences of letting the rich-elite control the distribution of the precious resources that keep us fed, warm, consuming goods and entertained.

Max and the RT team play a pivotal role in cutting through the bullshit and 'sanitised' version of the truth we are fed by other Media organisations who all have a vested interest in keeping the real truth from you... most media organisations are SO sanitised that they simply provide you with what YOU want... entertainment. Media follows and panders to consumer demand... nobody wants their cosey nest rattled so 99.9% of media is produced to sustain the entertainment 'comfort zone' keeping you you distracted from the truth and what is really going on out there beyond the comfort of your internet fed 'nest' that is in turn being heated with the limited global resources they are at this very moment plundering to keep you 'happy', 'warm', 'blind' and 'shut-up'.

Max recognises that 'crypto' and releasing his own coin is a way of decentralising power away from the corporates who currently control our destiny and are taking us to the edge of extinction through mismanaging the wealth and the resources of this planet.

Hope this is clear now...

back to the coin... apparently the Kimoto Gravity Well slows down people with mega-hash power to give fairer distribution... this feature apparently ensures that anyone who 'brute forces' hash power on the system is immediately penalised... not sure if this blocks the botnets too.

perhaps we can have a statement from the DEVS...

  





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  A coin that target CPU miners is like Sony marketing a black and white TV to 90 year old customers. Simply all the hackers from cpu mining days, are sitting here watching this thread, rubbing hands together, and getting ready to wake up the dormant botnets that went out of business to ravage this coin. So you will get what 10-15 botnets and no miners? The people who still mine CPU's are a minority, and at the electric cost they only do it for fun. Even if your plan is to mine it with your own custom GPU mining software before you release that to the public, you will still fail, because botnets will still eat you alive. The only way to guarantee a fair distribution model now can not be done without including GPU's. If you think otherwise then good luck to you, it's been tried and proven to fail.
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This coin makes absolutely no sense. Why not just full on clone Quark? Why a stripped down version of it? Why make an inferior coin?

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Hello maxcoinproject, what are your thoughts about botnets "taking over" the mining for the "average joe"? It seem to be a big issue for some people claiming that it will destroy the whole idea with this coin(the idea you mentioned on Keiser Report E555) and make it difficult to mine.
 

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When a coin launch like this, aint there these "mining pools" ready for people without botnets? I'm all new into this, recently invested a small amount on a coin I believe will have a bright future, however, it would be interesting to fallow along this one from scratch as i recall you can't buy coins at the launch. Tried mining once for the try of it.

And yes, I hear people saying Max Keiser is a pump&dump theif and this coin is a scam- but if you listen to his belifes and vision about Money in general @ Keiser Report, you know this guy is far from a crook/thief who wants to steal your money. Ofcourse he wants so make money, but if he can make profits at the same time promoting a good cause for the rest of us "avarage joe's", well, then I'm into it.

All haters should watch these recent episodes of Keiser Report, both him and Stacy are great!-

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Anyone do the GPU miner yet?
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Do you guys REALLY think Max needs to launch his own coin?... The simple answer is NO... he has bigger fish to fry and bigger concerns to deal with.

........

Has anyone noticed that this planet is being RAPED of natural resources, to an extent that it will wipe out our species within a few decades, if not sooner.

.........


Aaaaannddddd I want back the couple of minutes I wasted reading this tin foil hat crap.

hahahaha
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Do you guys REALLY think Max needs to launch his own coin?... The simple answer is NO... he has bigger fish to fry and bigger concerns to deal with.

........

Has anyone noticed that this planet is being RAPED of natural resources, to an extent that it will wipe out our species within a few decades, if not sooner.

.........


Aaaaannddddd I want back the couple of minutes I wasted reading this tin foil hat crap.
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JustabitofTime - Co-Founder of CoinTropolis
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Temperature on other planets goes up and down too yet there is no Fossil Fuel Burning going on, no SUV's. Explain THAT one. (Hint: It's the Sun)

As far as Algore being a BitCoin fan that doesn't negate all his previous Snake Oil Sales.  I'm sure he's a real nice guy in person and he got all choked up when he watched "The Notebook".

Doesn't matter, he's STILL a scam artist.


Ok, please read this article. The Kock brothers who are famous billionaires right wing libertarians funders of Cato institute financed a private independent study on global warming. They were trying to find out themselves what the reality is and not rely on questionable governmental sources.

However, this is what the study concluded http://disinfo.com/2012/07/koch-brothers-funded-climate-scientist-says-he-was-wrong-global-warming-is-real-and-man-made/ or http://www.care2.com/causes/climate-change-deniers-own-study-changes-his-mind.html

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Koch Brothers-Funded Climate Scientist Says He Was Wrong, Global Warming Is Real And Man-Made

by JacobSloan on July 31, 2012 in News
Previously discussed scientist Richard Muller, a climate change skeptic whose work was heavily funded by the Koches, has penned an op-ed explaining that his extensive study proved the opposite of what his bankrollers had hoped. Via the New York Times:

Call me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

My total turnaround, in such a short time, is the result of careful and objective analysis by the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project, which I founded with my daughter Elizabeth. Our results show that the average temperature of the earth’s land has risen by two and a half degrees Fahrenheit over the past 250 years, including an increase of one and a half degrees over the most recent 50 years. Moreover, it appears likely that essentially all of this increase results from the human emission of greenhouse gases.

Our record is long enough that we could search for the fingerprint of solar variability, based on the historical record of sunspots. That fingerprint is absent. Although the I.P.C.C. allowed for the possibility that variations in sunlight could have ended the “Little Ice Age,” a period of cooling from the 14th century to about 1850, our data argues strongly that the temperature rise of the past 250 years cannot be attributed to solar changes. This conclusion is, in retrospect, not too surprising; we’ve learned from satellite measurements that solar activity changes the brightness of the sun very little.

How definite is the attribution to humans? The carbon dioxide curve gives a better match than anything else we’ve tried. Its magnitude is consistent with the calculated greenhouse effect — extra warming from trapped heat radiation. These facts don’t prove causality and they shouldn’t end skepticism, but they raise the bar: to be considered seriously, an alternative explanation must match the data at least as well as carbon dioxide does.

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Professor Richard Muller, one of the nation’s foremost climate change deniers, has finally changed his views on global warming thanks to a new study… his own. After conducting research on the subject, Muller says he has had a “total turnaround” and is no longer skeptical about the threats of greenhouse gases, according to The Guardian.

The results of Muller’s study, the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature or BEST project, showed that the land temperature has risen 2.5 degrees Fahrenheit in the past 250 years, with the majority of that occurring in the last 50 years alone. Even more damningly, the data suggests that the increase is due almost exclusively to human production of greenhouse gases.

Muller, a physicist, admits he was surprised by the findings, but will not deny climate change anymore. “As scientists, it is our duty to let the evidence change our minds,” he said.

The results of the BEST study are even more impressive considering the source. Charles Koch, one of the multi-billionaire brothers who are well known for bankrolling the campaign to deny climate change, funded the research in large part. Fortunately, Muller made an honest go of the study rather than just melding the data to fix his preexisting assumptions.

What distinguishes BEST from previous studies is the massive number of earth temperatures collected to use as the data. Muller’s team amassed over 14 million temperature observations from over 40,000 places, some going back as far as 1753. That’s more than five times the number of temperatures used in previous climate change studies. Furthermore, the data was analyzed by a computer, not humans, to eliminate the bias factor that previous global warming deniers have cited.

The study also examined other popular theories for temperature rise like increased solar activity and volcano eruptions, but neither showed much of a correlation. “Much to my surprise, by far the best match came to the record of atmospheric carbon dioxide,” said Muller.

During the study, another leading climate change denier, Anthony Watts, was consulted on the methodology and found it to be a good way to analyze the topic. “I’m prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong,” Watts said. Since BEST’s results have been released, however, Watts has waffled on this position.

Although scholars generally wait to have their research peer reviewed before releasing all of the data, Muller published the complete study early on to address the inevitable concerns from other climate change skeptics.

“I embarked on this analysis to answer questions that, to my mind, had not been answered,” said Muller. “I hope that the Berkeley Earth analysis will help settle the scientific debate regarding global warming and its human causes.”

Given the current rate of carbon emissions, Muller predicts that the temperature of the earth will rise an additional 1.5 degrees in the upcoming 50 years. He concedes that now “comes the difficult part: agreeing across the political and diplomatic spectrum about what can and should be done.”

Here’s hoping that we don’t have to wait for every climate change denier to conduct his or her own research before acknowledging and addressing the growing problem of global warming.

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We are the ones we've been waiting for
Why not GPU?
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Can you mine this coin at the start, when the difficulty is low with a normal desktop?
Meaby yes, but not much
No you can't. Thousands of cpus from botnets will run you over. Assuming there was a functional pool, which is doubtful, you'd get some pennies. Solo mining you'll get exactly zero.
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