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Quote from: HunterMinerCrafter on September 03, 2014, 06:21:17 PM

Maybe he is just trying to distribute hash-rate. Hard to say what the intent is.

EDIT: Another possible explanation is that he is, for some reason, waiting to see another bot come online and is intermittently withholding blocks in order to see if there are any under-performing solvers online.

Maybe I sound stupid, but is it possible that the bot actually have some problem with map searching? Are pauses random or not? If they are, maybe he sometimes just cannot find good map for longer time. Map generating became more heavy lately. And is this possible that bot owner can use some little botnet for map searching one time (for example, at his work) and only his own PC other time (now)?..

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Well, I can't get coins but my girlfriend is having success.

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Quote from: MotoLevi on September 03, 2014, 05:53:33 PM

Got 15 more blocks now. The bots seems to stop every now and then. Maybe slowed down or just waiting? Every minute or so there is no quick blocks it seems.

Maybe he is just trying to distribute hash-rate. Hard to say what the intent is.

EDIT: Another possible explanation is that he is, for some reason, waiting to see another bot come online and is intermittently withholding blocks in order to see if there are any under-performing solvers online.

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Got 15 more blocks now. The bots seems to stop every now and then. Maybe slowed down or just waiting? Every minute or so there is no quick blocks it seems.

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Quote from: Vz on September 03, 2014, 05:38:33 PM

Quote from: HunterMinerCrafter on September 03, 2014, 05:29:29 PM

In the mean time I'm happy just "HOLDing" what I have now.. until we get everything ironed out.

I think you as a "ex-owner of the bot" has a lot of MOTO (if you don't sell it on the last pump, I think NO) ~400 000 - 500 000 so holding of that ammount is pretty cool Wink

maybe you buy a lot of cheap moto while we have problems..

I didn't really believe in MOTO since the bot's was coming and i lost my investing ~500$.. Now it seems to me that it may be the good coin in the future..

I have always been pretty open that I've been not only bot mining, but intermittently buying. Again, I find myself needing to point out that this may seem like unusual behavior, compared to a lot of alt devs, to some. Wink

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Quote from: HunterMinerCrafter on September 03, 2014, 05:29:29 PM

In the mean time I'm happy just "HOLDing" what I have now.. until we get everything ironed out.

I think you as a "ex-owner of the bot" has a lot of MOTO (if you don't sell it on the last pump, I think NO) ~400 000 - 500 000 so holding of that ammount is pretty cool Wink

maybe you buy a lot of cheap moto while we have problems..

I didn't really believe in MOTO since the bot's was coming and i lost my investing ~500$.. Now it seems to me that it may be the good coin in the future..

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Quote from: Vz on September 03, 2014, 05:20:40 PM

Please, fix the blockexplorer?
http://37.153.97.65:3000/status
offline again ~3 hours..

It was being slow about compiling the new patches, and Insight crashed again, and I just hadn't gotten back to it yet. I'll check in on it shortly.

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Quote from: Vz on September 03, 2014, 05:19:29 PM

Yes.. now on my netbook it take sometimes a very a lot of time to generate map( ___ up to 40 seconds sometimes!

I have some rough OpenCL map filtering code that could be adapted for the wallet, this would help humans a lot, and something this bot is probably already doing.

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The steper curve have something bad? I don't think so.. I think that step of changing difficult in bitcoin also is too much less stepper

The new curve doesn't kick in until the fork point at 198000.

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do not despair HMC, playing always was hard.. Wink

you will take you coin in one time

I'm sure I'll have a good bot up and running again at some point or another. In the mean time I'm happy just "HODLing" what I have now until we get everything ironed out.

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Please, fix the blockexplorer?
http://37.153.97.65:3000/status
offline again ~3 hours..

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Quote from: HunterMinerCrafter on September 03, 2014, 04:45:25 PM

Perhaps this most recent target change on the anti-warp was too much for it? Maps are starting to get noticeably slower to generate, now.

Maybe we don't need the steeper curve after all, but I think it is still probably a good idea to try it out at the 200 block interval.

I haven't gotten a coin by hand since the bot came online. I've come close a couple of times since the bot slowed down but am usually, at best, out of time on TT somewhere near the coin when the bot solves a block. Usually I run out of time or lose to the bot before I even get half way.

Yes.. now on my netbook it take sometimes a very a lot of time to generate map( ___ up to 40 seconds sometimes!
The steper curve have something bad? I don't think so.. I think that step of changing difficult in bitcoin also is too much less stepper

do not despair HMC, playing always was hard.. Wink

you will take you coin in one time

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Quote from: Vz on September 03, 2014, 04:44:07 PM

The same.. I managed to get 4.. sometimes it takes bot up to 2 minutes to solve some "level"s.. but there are still much of blocks solved by 10 sec 15 sec and ~~

HMC! I notice some bad thing: if the bot continue to mine block 30 sec per one.. with TT ~~30 sec.. Antiwarp stop adding work to map generation?

Correct. As long as miners withhold a block found until its run time has passed there would be no work debt created, so no warp occuring, so no anti-warp applied.

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But the block rate will not seek??(don't know the right word.. trying to touch.. is the best synonym) to 1 per 60 sec.. but still be near 1 in 30 sec..

Only while he controls such a large majority of hash-rate.

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P.S. maybe the decreasing of TT will some time push him to 60 second.. maybe it is not bad thing at all) cause there are two different parametrs TT and Antiwarp work

Correct, but right now he more or less "controls" this as well.

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Quote from: MotoLevi on September 03, 2014, 04:05:31 PM

I managed to get 5 blocks. But it seems the bot is still going strong. For some blocks there is a 2-3 seconds interval and some there is 30+ seconds until next block.

Strong, but less strong. I expected us to be closer to the fork point by now. Perhaps this most recent target change on the anti-warp was too much for it? Maps are starting to get noticeably slower to generate, now.

Maybe we don't need the steeper curve after all, but I think it is still probably a good idea to try it out at the 200 block interval.

I haven't gotten a coin by hand since the bot came online. I've come close a couple of times since the bot slowed down but am usually, at best, out of time on TT somewhere near the coin when the bot solves a block. Usually I run out of time or lose to the bot before I even get half way.

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Quote from: MotoLevi on September 03, 2014, 04:05:31 PM

I managed to get 5 blocks. But it seems the bot is still going strong. For some blocks there is a 2-3 seconds interval and some there is 30+ seconds until next block.

The same.. I managed to get 4.. sometimes it takes bot up to 2 minutes to solve some "level"s.. but there are still much of blocks solved by 10 sec 15 sec and ~~

HMC! I notice some bad thing: if the bot continue to mine block 30 sec per one.. with TT ~~30 sec.. Antiwarp stop adding work to map generation? But the block rate will not seek??(don't know the right word.. trying to touch.. is the best synonym) to 1 per 60 sec.. but still be near 1 in 30 sec..

P.S. maybe the decreasing of TT will some time push him to 60 second.. maybe it is not bad thing at all) cause there are two different parametrs TT and Antiwarp work

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I managed to get 5 blocks. But it seems the bot is still going strong. For some blocks there is a 2-3 seconds interval and some there is 30+ seconds until next block.

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Quote from: Vz on September 03, 2014, 01:42:33 PM

Quote from: zeerobje on September 03, 2014, 01:35:58 PM

Hello all are their new things come in the next months....

Yes, I have some plans beyond just chasing down fixes to problems, heh. One day I may even get enough of a break in chasing down problems to be able to implement some of them.

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oO.. which things? HMC already finished new builds you may download by links upper post..

So we just need to wait until the time-warp normalize the currect situation

Yes, I think once the hash-rate issues even out we will be ready to press onward with more features and adoption.

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Quote from: Vz on September 03, 2014, 01:30:31 PM

Fantastic! I just win 20 MOTOCOIN Grin

and it is confirmed)

Bot is offline now? Interesting.

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Quote from: zeerobje on September 03, 2014, 01:35:58 PM

Hello all are their new things come in the next months....

oO.. which things? HMC already finished new builds you may download by links upper post..

So we just need to wait until the time-warp normalize the currect situation

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Hello all are their new things come in the next months....

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Fantastic! I just win 20 MOTOCOIN Grin

and it is confirmed)

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Graph comparing linearly extrapolated anti-warp work requirement with the old (2000 block) interval and the new (200 block) interval.

The vertical is "our compact representation" target values, so this graph is in something like a "distorted" log scale. We can't really know where the target will level off until it levels off, on either curve. However, we can say that this will get us to whatever that target value is significantly more quickly. If it still feels that we are targeting too slowly for the bot (or for the ongoing bot progression, in the future) we can increase this frequency again.

It probably should eventually be at a much lower value, with our tx confirmations increased. Ideally, I think we'd want to have this anti-warp set at something like 10-20% of our desired confirmations, with something like 60 confirmations at one minute frequency.

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