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legendary
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Blackjack.fun
This decision was made by all of us - skype group, Payu and AP finally agreed to this  Tongue

And this is how a few people decide the fate of others... another failed project.
This is why bitcoin never went to this kind of forks and this is why people believe in it.

There was no difference between your move and the way central banks deal.
hero member
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Cryptocasino.com
Some facts about Mazacoin which aren´t well known

1. National share of mazacoin growed until last month about 70%

2. Android wallet will be presented at 16th this month in National Native Economical conference

http://nativenationevents.org/conference/8th-annual-national-native-american-economic-development-conference-in-conjunction-with-7th-annual-energy-projects-in-indian-country-conference/

3. In beginning of summer there will be smart reward, fork 1/10 but number of maximum coin will be the same 2+bio

4. Hand-to-hand price of Mazacoin growed until last month in Lakota about 50% from 0.01USD to 0.015USD

5. CNN report about Mazacoin is planed to release in "Financial series" it´s still shooting next series

6. Exchange price is still the same, during 1 month of trading, with volume around 100BTC+

hero member
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Cryptocasino.com
This decision was made by all of us - skype group, Payu and AP finally agreed to this  Tongue
full member
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well, it was a good run. I'm going to have to tap out. I'm selling my mzc and buying more silkcoin. The devs from mzc should take note from the devs of SC, they really have their shit together. Good luck, guys I really hope mzc accomplishes what it was set out to do.
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Anglo Saxon Crypto Enthusiast
I'm just looking at the twitter account and try to read in to what's going on..

"The lowering of the MZC block reward is a direct side effect of lengthening the blockchain. The coinbase and inflationary remain un-changed."

If anyone can make any sense of that, let me know. Sounds like AP is trying to justify his previous rants where his is totally against forking, rather than take it back, now he is making up bullshit.

"Anyone interested in donating towards the expense of this massive undertaking can send BitCoin here --> 1HwWHZSqN9hGadPLqqBihnpfojqDqSG25o"

So what looks like a quick and easy fix is now a massive undertaking that needs lots of BTC to accomplish, uh, OK...

“I hate when people blame the "dev team" for a given price in the market..." Quote from the Lead Developer of Libertycoin, another 'Master Coin Maker', no doubt.

I guess if we were expecting any improvements to the way Mazacoin represents itself you're in for a disappointment. If the direction of this coin is still being monopolized by this 'Anonymous Pirate' two weeks from now then I'll dump what I have and won't look back.

sr. member
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So, as was just announced on twitter....

"This summer we will be announcing a hard fork update which will extend the MZC blockchain to 50 years & lower initial reward to 500 MZC."

https://twitter.com/MazaCoin/status/473288060516708352


So uh yeah, I guess that's the route we are taking...
Let me guess, you had some discussions, community had some ideas and AP just posted his decision on his own?


My serious suggestions is get a new update out there of MazaCoin. Change the seed nodes to a NEUTRAL DOMAIN that AP doesn't own in chainparams.cpp and plan to reimage.

vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("node.mazacoin.org", "node.mazacoin.org"));
vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("node.mazacoin.cf", "node.mazacoin.cf"));
vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("mazacoin.no-ip.org", "mazacoin.no-ip.org"));

I have some of the original community artwork and some graphics when I was working on the new client you can use to reimage the coin. No press article wants to link to that abortion of a website.

Lastly, while a fork is bad, it will be a sign of some direction of this coin. In the early days, Payu said he anticipated MazaCoin being your digital cash and then Bitcoin being your gold you would stock pile. I have agreed with that statement since Litecoin came out years back but if MazaCoin wants to compete, they need to speed up the block chain. Multipools are killing it and you can't claim to be efficient when you are spending sometimes 10-60 minutes on a block. Move the reward to 500MZC and 30 second block targets initially. This will halve the reward to start but after the next year, current block of the fork + 105000 will go back to 1250 per block and hope that after that time has passed, the use of the coin is grown to accept the implementation and get more into the system. Also, start to look at a PoS to urge people to keep the coins in the wallet and not day trade for profit. This will keep the nations interested in holding them as a savings and not just quickly converting them for a back of gum.

Just my 2 cents.


Thanks for the input boxxa- sounds like a sound bit of advice...  at this point I think that a fork is anything but bad... it is great news! you say so pretty much yourself... there is a perception forking is somewhow scammy- in my opinion if there was a fork every week then yes that would be scammy,   but in this case, the coin was designed- released and now will be tweeked to make it fit for purpose... This is the beauty of cryptocurrencies- Maza is not alone on having gone down the fork road - and I belive Mazacoin has more integrity than nearly ost every coin out there, and by far the best cause.  I belive the concept and the idea of the coin is to make something that is of use to the Lakota, that can benefit them and be workable as a coin in the crypto market, I think to acheive that A fork is the best way to go- do it once - do it right.  I am rather happy for the news today - and the communication from the devs in the past week has been the best it has ever been.  I was happy if there was not going to be a fork- but I think that it is great news that there is... the best thing , the needed thing for this coin without a doubt (in my opinion)

PoS to urge people to keep the coins in the wallet and not day trade for profit. This will keep the nations interested in holding them as a savings and not just quickly converting them for a back of gum.  THIS IS VERY INTERESTING !!

Keep it coming..

p.s
Glad to see you are still knocking about boxxa - any chance you may come back on board?

Yes, hard forks are bad in general as they are based on a idea to deviate from the basis of rules implemented by the coin and protocol that people originally bought into and can be used to profit early miners who want to make a quick buck which would have been the case 3-4 months ago. In the MZC case, there isn't many people buying into it anymore. You have a coin worth next to nothing, markets that are very slow (we saw 200k MZC move the price 20% last week) and even some exchanges are talking about delisting the pairs.

The whole project needs a new image. They need some devs to stand out and show they are working on it including active updates on the android wallet, client updates, and helping expand the usability online. This bounty stuff has always left a bad taste in my mouth how some of the key elements were pushed to bounties instead of showing a unified stance of the dev team to accomplish a goal and bringing people onboard that were commited to building a quality product, not just hiring looking to make a quick buck and do some shit rewrite of a open source app. Rebuild the dev team, put some people in there who have a say and are working to accomplish the goals and road map the updates and plans for the coin. Increase transparency.

The economics of the coin needs to be adjusted to meet the goals and path of Payu and not just fork it with a block adjustment and call it a day. Don't make a cheap hack and fork just because. Payu needs to address what his plan is in a realistic time line and chart its acceptance and adoption off of that element inline with what he expects the roll out to be. After the Lakota shot themselves in the foot after its early price surge that exposed the internal political corruption between council members, I have felt strongly that there needs to be an expansion in adoption outside the Lakota and help aim this coin at sovereign nations. The problems the coin is looking to solve are spread out globally, not just in the Lakota. I understand Payu has a large reputation there and has the closest fit but there should be a separate MazaCoin council setup that handles specifically tribal relations.

There was the whitepaper that the coin had a 1 year price growth but face it, anyone predicting price value of a crypto is full of shit as there is no basis of coin investments as you see in a fiat currency but you can map the coin supply growth and block reward increases as the coin use moves up. Increase block times, cut the reward, and let the coins on the exchanges be used to move the currency around to start. Then increase the supply slowly to account for the adoption of nations. If you know a nation is interested, hell, make a big buy yourself of the cheap coins as a tribal reserve. This stimulates the market and also sets up independent reserves for nations.

As for PoS, yes. It does nothing to encourage spending and moving the coins but what it does is give people a sense of ownership. They are giving away 1,000 MZC to the residents of the tribes. That is great but what benefit does that have other than them converting it right back to fiat or another currency. People who trade currencies will trade and not rely on PoS. A monkey throwing shit at a keyboard can earn more than 1% a year trading currencies. Keeping PoS will allow people to feel the urge to hold their coins and a sense of ownership, value, and growth without a bank or central authority. What motivation does a resident have to hold MZC if they can convert it to fiat, put it in a bank account and earn interest?

Lastly, people don't want to see another MZC hand out on YouTube and people don't understand how tribes function when they are working on an acceptance path. It is not the official currency. It isn't a currency really at all yet. There is a lot of work to be done to get back to the point of that and until the tasks are being worked on, no one will believe much of this project without some major confidence booster.


I just saw that the official MZC is asking for Bitcoin donations for work to repair it. A) what happened to the premine? B) how can you justify asking for bitcoin to fix a project that was ruined?
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Shine Like The Sun
"Just wondering but Tomi -where you at?"

I am right here beside u all brave Maza warriors. I will stand with u to the end of times, and to inevitable victory.

- Tomi

ps. I am working on the Maza Coin animation, and have some strong visions about it. I would like it to be exciting, but also commercial (one that would attract businesses). I will send u some screenshots once they are ready

full member
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Also, start to look at a PoS to urge people to keep the coins in the wallet and not day trade for profit.

PoS discourages people from spending their coins.
Is that the point of a currency, to be exchanged for goods and services.
Other than being the current fad-of-the-week, what exactly does PoS have to recommend it?
It rewards people who build up large pots of money and never do anything with them.
Isn't that just replicating the current banking system?

And this is why Mazacoin will not be implementing PoS.
sr. member
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Also, start to look at a PoS to urge people to keep the coins in the wallet and not day trade for profit.

PoS discourages people from spending their coins.
Is that the point of a currency, to be exchanged for goods and services.
Other than being the current fad-of-the-week, what exactly does PoS have to recommend it?
It rewards people who build up large pots of money and never do anything with them.
Isn't that just replicating the current banking system?
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Oh - and I could not agree more with the new website/logo etc the old one is the worst bit of work I have seen since the early 90's - so awful.

oh - I am not sure if AP went ahead and announced the fork or not?



AP was the one that tweeted as he controls the twitter account.
legendary
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Just wondering but Tomi -where you at?
legendary
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Oh - and I could not agree more with the new website/logo etc the old one is the worst bit of work I have seen since the early 90's - so awful.

oh - I am not sure if AP went ahead and announced the fork or not?



legendary
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So, as was just announced on twitter....

"This summer we will be announcing a hard fork update which will extend the MZC blockchain to 50 years & lower initial reward to 500 MZC."

https://twitter.com/MazaCoin/status/473288060516708352


So uh yeah, I guess that's the route we are taking...
Let me guess, you had some discussions, community had some ideas and AP just posted his decision on his own?


My serious suggestions is get a new update out there of MazaCoin. Change the seed nodes to a NEUTRAL DOMAIN that AP doesn't own in chainparams.cpp and plan to reimage.

vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("node.mazacoin.org", "node.mazacoin.org"));
vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("node.mazacoin.cf", "node.mazacoin.cf"));
vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("mazacoin.no-ip.org", "mazacoin.no-ip.org"));

I have some of the original community artwork and some graphics when I was working on the new client you can use to reimage the coin. No press article wants to link to that abortion of a website.

Lastly, while a fork is bad, it will be a sign of some direction of this coin. In the early days, Payu said he anticipated MazaCoin being your digital cash and then Bitcoin being your gold you would stock pile. I have agreed with that statement since Litecoin came out years back but if MazaCoin wants to compete, they need to speed up the block chain. Multipools are killing it and you can't claim to be efficient when you are spending sometimes 10-60 minutes on a block. Move the reward to 500MZC and 30 second block targets initially. This will halve the reward to start but after the next year, current block of the fork + 105000 will go back to 1250 per block and hope that after that time has passed, the use of the coin is grown to accept the implementation and get more into the system. Also, start to look at a PoS to urge people to keep the coins in the wallet and not day trade for profit. This will keep the nations interested in holding them as a savings and not just quickly converting them for a back of gum.

Just my 2 cents.


Thanks for the input boxxa- sounds like a sound bit of advice...  at this point I think that a fork is anything but bad... it is great news! you say so pretty much yourself... there is a perception forking is somewhow scammy- in my opinion if there was a fork every week then yes that would be scammy,   but in this case, the coin was designed- released and now will be tweeked to make it fit for purpose... This is the beauty of cryptocurrencies- Maza is not alone on having gone down the fork road - and I belive Mazacoin has more integrity than nearly ost every coin out there, and by far the best cause.  I belive the concept and the idea of the coin is to make something that is of use to the Lakota, that can benefit them and be workable as a coin in the crypto market, I think to acheive that A fork is the best way to go- do it once - do it right.  I am rather happy for the news today - and the communication from the devs in the past week has been the best it has ever been.  I was happy if there was not going to be a fork- but I think that it is great news that there is... the best thing , the needed thing for this coin without a doubt (in my opinion)

PoS to urge people to keep the coins in the wallet and not day trade for profit. This will keep the nations interested in holding them as a savings and not just quickly converting them for a back of gum.  THIS IS VERY INTERESTING !!

Keep it coming..

p.s
Glad to see you are still knocking about boxxa - any chance you may come back on board?
sr. member
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So, as was just announced on twitter....

"This summer we will be announcing a hard fork update which will extend the MZC blockchain to 50 years & lower initial reward to 500 MZC."

https://twitter.com/MazaCoin/status/473288060516708352


So uh yeah, I guess that's the route we are taking...
Let me guess, you had some discussions, community had some ideas and AP just posted his decision on his own?


My serious suggestions is get a new update out there of MazaCoin. Change the seed nodes to a NEUTRAL DOMAIN that AP doesn't own in chainparams.cpp and plan to reimage.

vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("node.mazacoin.org", "node.mazacoin.org"));
vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("node.mazacoin.cf", "node.mazacoin.cf"));
vSeeds.push_back(CDNSSeedData("mazacoin.no-ip.org", "mazacoin.no-ip.org"));

I have some of the original community artwork and some graphics when I was working on the new client you can use to reimage the coin. No press article wants to link to that abortion of a website.

Lastly, while a fork is bad, it will be a sign of some direction of this coin. In the early days, Payu said he anticipated MazaCoin being your digital cash and then Bitcoin being your gold you would stock pile. I have agreed with that statement since Litecoin came out years back but if MazaCoin wants to compete, they need to speed up the block chain. Multipools are killing it and you can't claim to be efficient when you are spending sometimes 10-60 minutes on a block. Move the reward to 500MZC and 30 second block targets initially. This will halve the reward to start but after the next year, current block of the fork + 105000 will go back to 1250 per block and hope that after that time has passed, the use of the coin is grown to accept the implementation and get more into the system. Also, start to look at a PoS to urge people to keep the coins in the wallet and not day trade for profit. This will keep the nations interested in holding them as a savings and not just quickly converting them for a back of gum.

Lastly, get off the merged mining train and idea for now. Difficulty calculations on a per block will fight the multipools and keep the consistent block times. Look at Dark Gravity well. Merged mining is cool but you need a big pool to be interested in implementing it and with a coin valued at 20 satoshi, you aren't going to see any real work done by the major pools to support it. If the value goes back up, hell yea def share the growth but for now, there is a lot of other help this coin needs than to throw all the changes in at once.

Just my 2 cents.
legendary
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OK!  Alright! Amazing...... so that has been decided... this is good!  tweaking the coins parameters at this stage I believe is a good move for the long term stability and value (and therefore impact) that this coin can make - done in an upfront manner this is a strong move.. Mazacoin is not alone in having made the decision to fork, adapting and perfecting the core of the coin at this early stage when it IS needed is a sign of an active development which is what is needed right now. This is the difference this coin needed- from here there can be a much stronger base to build this coin.  Any news on allocating some of the reward for the Lakota? I thought this had a good idea....... or is there still plan to have a Lakota based mining operation? Very keen to hear about developments on the reserve/with the tribe also.

Please do continue to keep us in the loop..  this past week has been great from the communication point of view! best news for this coin since Cryptorush went down (that exchange had a lot to answer for)

Looking forward to more updates...

There are only strong hands left in the game now as far as I can see.

Once the coin is back to where it is supposed to be, then will be great to set some bounties- I will be in on that.

full member
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So, as was just announced on twitter....

"This summer we will be announcing a hard fork update which will extend the MZC blockchain to 50 years & lower initial reward to 500 MZC."

https://twitter.com/MazaCoin/status/473288060516708352


So uh yeah, I guess that's the route we are taking...
legendary
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I have a couple of ideas for the coin that I think will make it a very strong coin.  I did not share them on the Skype session.  I do not want to share them if they are not going to be acted on, because I will take them to a different coin in that case.

So, let me ask, how strong are you as a developer?  The distinctions could be, for example, you can use a text editor, change some constants, and build a new coin, or you have read the entire source and understand some of it, to you are an expert cryptanalyst, have a lot of network experience, and can change any aspect of the source and create a coin with distinctly different behaviors or novel user interface behavior.


I'd consider myself competent, I have lots of networking experience and my full time job revolves around networking.  I also do a some scripting with that job, mainly in PERL, I have fundamental knowledge of C++ and have taken college courses in C++, and Visual Basic.  I will never consider myself an expert at any of it as I feel I am always learning something new.  I have read through the source code and I am able to understand most of it and am still working on understanding the rest of it.  But what I lack in experience and knowledge I make up for in being able to find the solutions and learn what I need to get the job done.  I already have some code written for if we wanted to change from halving the block reward to quartering the reward at a faster pace than the current halving (We are still working behind the scenes to determine if and when we will implement), which I haven't seen in any other code that I've looked at.  It's fairly simple but definitely not a copy/paste job.  I have always been fairly strong in Mathematics which helps out a lot with that part of the code as well.  If you have ideas, you can definitely share them with me in PM and I will take them into consideration, if we decide not to use them I would let you know and keep the communication confidential if that is what you want.  If the idea is good enough and something we can implement I am more than willing to look at it.  I'm also not going to steal ideas without giving credit.

I continue to think that changing the block rewards or halving time, those fundamental constants of the coin, are a bad idea.  If you think that the values are not workable, I think you must start with a new genesis block.

My analysis of the situation is that the coin should be used for commerce, as currency, and not as a speculation tool.  The pump n dump crowd is pushing very strongly to make it as speculation, and that is not a long term interest.

My basic idea to improve the coin is to manage the coin volatility.  One way to do this is to introduce an element of the economy that can only be done with bitcoin.  Take a food store on Pine Ridge, as an example.  This store could have a web page for items that it sells at a discount.  The page could let people checkmark the items that they want to buy, and they could use their IIM accounts to purchase bitcoins as a coupon.  These bitcoins then can be used to purchase the goods when they go to the store.  If the price rises, the individual can sell the bitcoins and buy their groceries with the cash proceeds.  If the price of bitcoins falls, the individuals can still purchase their groceries, and the store has already been paid at the original price, so everyone gets what they paid for.

The store gets even more than they do with coupons.  They get marketing information, and pre-payment.

This requires that individual addresses be assigned.  One address is the source for coupons for, say, meat, another address is the source for coupons for milk.  A person paying from an address that was funded by the coupon gets the discount.

This is novel, and doing it with MZA would distinguish the coin from not only alt-coins, but also bitcoin.  It would make the MZA valuable as a currency.  Also, since they are purchase coupons, the store could sell them at 1 MZA/USD if they wanted to, and that would tend to stabilize the price at that same value.




I am not so sure on the to fork or not to fork.... I agree if it can be helped then no need... however if it is the best thing longterm and is done properly then maybe  I do like the idea of the Tribe getting a share of the reward- makes sense.

The idea you have Prof for dealing with the volatility and potential "peg" of the price - and to establish the currency in the community is very  interesting... not quite sure if the "peg" could work via the method you mention , but it is certainly worth looking at..  guessin' they do not call you prof for nothing.
legendary
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I have a couple of ideas for the coin that I think will make it a very strong coin.  I did not share them on the Skype session.  I do not want to share them if they are not going to be acted on, because I will take them to a different coin in that case.

So, let me ask, how strong are you as a developer?  The distinctions could be, for example, you can use a text editor, change some constants, and build a new coin, or you have read the entire source and understand some of it, to you are an expert cryptanalyst, have a lot of network experience, and can change any aspect of the source and create a coin with distinctly different behaviors or novel user interface behavior.


I'd consider myself competent, I have lots of networking experience and my full time job revolves around networking.  I also do a some scripting with that job, mainly in PERL, I have fundamental knowledge of C++ and have taken college courses in C++, and Visual Basic.  I will never consider myself an expert at any of it as I feel I am always learning something new.  I have read through the source code and I am able to understand most of it and am still working on understanding the rest of it.  But what I lack in experience and knowledge I make up for in being able to find the solutions and learn what I need to get the job done.  I already have some code written for if we wanted to change from halving the block reward to quartering the reward at a faster pace than the current halving (We are still working behind the scenes to determine if and when we will implement), which I haven't seen in any other code that I've looked at.  It's fairly simple but definitely not a copy/paste job.  I have always been fairly strong in Mathematics which helps out a lot with that part of the code as well.  If you have ideas, you can definitely share them with me in PM and I will take them into consideration, if we decide not to use them I would let you know and keep the communication confidential if that is what you want.  If the idea is good enough and something we can implement I am more than willing to look at it.  I'm also not going to steal ideas without giving credit.

I continue to think that changing the block rewards or halving time, those fundamental constants of the coin, are a bad idea.  If you think that the values are not workable, I think you must start with a new genesis block.

My analysis of the situation is that the coin should be used for commerce, as currency, and not as a speculation tool.  The pump n dump crowd is pushing very strongly to make it as speculation, and that is not a long term interest.

My basic idea to improve the coin is to manage the coin volatility.  One way to do this is to introduce an element of the economy that can only be done with bitcoin.  Take a food store on Pine Ridge, as an example.  This store could have a web page for items that it sells at a discount.  The page could let people checkmark the items that they want to buy, and they could use their IIM accounts to purchase bitcoins as a coupon.  These bitcoins then can be used to purchase the goods when they go to the store.  If the price rises, the individual can sell the bitcoins and buy their groceries with the cash proceeds.  If the price of bitcoins falls, the individuals can still purchase their groceries, and the store has already been paid at the original price, so everyone gets what they paid for.

The store gets even more than they do with coupons.  They get marketing information, and pre-payment.

This requires that individual addresses be assigned.  One address is the source for coupons for, say, meat, another address is the source for coupons for milk.  A person paying from an address that was funded by the coupon gets the discount.

This is novel, and doing it with MZA would distinguish the coin from not only alt-coins, but also bitcoin.  It would make the MZA valuable as a currency.  Also, since they are purchase coupons, the store could sell them at 1 MZA/USD if they wanted to, and that would tend to stabilize the price at that same value.

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I have a couple of ideas for the coin that I think will make it a very strong coin.  I did not share them on the Skype session.  I do not want to share them if they are not going to be acted on, because I will take them to a different coin in that case.

So, let me ask, how strong are you as a developer?  The distinctions could be, for example, you can use a text editor, change some constants, and build a new coin, or you have read the entire source and understand some of it, to you are an expert cryptanalyst, have a lot of network experience, and can change any aspect of the source and create a coin with distinctly different behaviors or novel user interface behavior.


I'd consider myself competent, I have lots of networking experience and my full time job revolves around networking.  I also do a some scripting with that job, mainly in PERL, I have fundamental knowledge of C++ and have taken college courses in C++, and Visual Basic.  I will never consider myself an expert at any of it as I feel I am always learning something new.  I have read through the source code and I am able to understand most of it and am still working on understanding the rest of it.  But what I lack in experience and knowledge I make up for in being able to find the solutions and learn what I need to get the job done.  I already have some code written for if we wanted to change from halving the block reward to quartering the reward at a faster pace than the current halving (We are still working behind the scenes to determine if and when we will implement), which I haven't seen in any other code that I've looked at.  It's fairly simple but definitely not a copy/paste job.  I have always been fairly strong in Mathematics which helps out a lot with that part of the code as well.  If you have ideas, you can definitely share them with me in PM and I will take them into consideration, if we decide not to use them I would let you know and keep the communication confidential if that is what you want.  If the idea is good enough and something we can implement I am more than willing to look at it.  I'm also not going to steal ideas without giving credit.
legendary
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when is the revival coming?  Cool

Not sure yet, but it'll come soon enough! WHEN AP RETIRES FROM MZC
There only delaying the inevitable, AP has no  focus on MZC, only his next projects that he has lined up, he blames the community for ruining his reputation when he brought it on himself by "making" MZC, then Maplecoin  & Irishcoin....which claimed he is 50% Irish. FAIL....Look out for IraqCoin cuz he'll then claim he's 33% from there too. Also the threaten to sell the MZC project to a different tribe cuz Payu asked him to leave it....and his response to Payu was fuck off you RETARD, I own this coin and nobody else. So I say sooner the better he's gone.



Check out this image. Does that look real to you?? Looks like photoshop to me. I'm not convinced that this beer was ever sold for Irishcoin. How hard would it of been to take a video with a phone and put it on youtube, and talk to the patron that just bought beer for Irishcoin supposedly? This was retweeted from the Mazacoin twitter, makes them both look like a scam.

hmm I am drunk now.. but on first glance.... the shadow of the glasss on the wall, looks real enough on first glance... and also under the hand , the reflection of the hand on the bar looks real enough... the shading above the left arm in red, looks odds though as does the colour of the bar and background inbetween the guys arms... although I must admit ... I am not quite wide awake right now (been out- am not sober) but I do know a man or two , who knows his stuff in this field... I shall ask him to take a look.

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