Topic: [ANNOUNCE] Bitmessage - P2P Messaging system based partially on Bitcoin - page 18. (Read 89882 times)
May 25, 2013, 04:49:44 AM
How many bits is the cipher? Is it as strong as pgp?
May 25, 2013, 04:42:19 AM
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I've long thought that an actual working distributed web of trust would be as revolutionary as the Internet: imagine having a complete stranger walk up to you on the street outside your home and say, "Hey man, Can I borrow your keys like right now?" and you hold your phones up next to each other, a light turns green, you check to make sure he matches the picture on your phone, and you hand him the keys.
Now that would be pretty cool.
... you've obviously thought this out to some far out there visions.Quote
For Bitmessage alone it means getting rid of the PoW for identities who are sufficiently trusted, eliminating spam entirely, and obviously integration with other systems which depend on feedback and trust of identities.
Yep, real good points.
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As far as implementation of the distributed web of trust, I'm not sure how it would work but there does appear to be a lot of research on the topic. We could use someone who can recommend some set of papers to read first since there is so much.
Hmmm, let me see what I can find out.
May 24, 2013, 08:44:18 PM
Thanks. Wish: make the x minimize not close.
May 24, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Any chance for a release to help with Windows connections?
Very soon; the only remaining thing I need to do for the next release is repackage the new icons so that they can be included within the EXE. And also Linux testing.
May 24, 2013, 08:33:12 PM
Any chance for a release to help with Windows connections?
May 24, 2013, 08:29:12 PM
Aetheros ... just wondering if there is a use case [for] a reputation scoring system [with] Bitmessage addresses?
Only about a thousand possible use cases. I've long thought that an actual working distributed web of trust would be as revolutionary as the Internet: imagine having a complete stranger walk up to you on the street outside your home and say, "Hey man, Can I borrow your keys like right now?" and you hold your phones up next to each other, a light turns green, you check to make sure he matches the picture on your phone, and you hand him the keys.
For Bitmessage alone it means getting rid of the PoW for identities who are sufficiently trusted, eliminating spam entirely, and obviously integration with other systems which depend on feedback and trust of identities.
As far as implementation of the distributed web of trust, I'm not sure how it would work but there does appear to be a lot of research on the topic. We could use someone who can recommend some set of papers to read first since there is so much.
May 24, 2013, 06:14:59 PM
Aetheros ... just wondering if there is a use case and a way to add a reputation scoring system easily onto Bitmessage addresses?
Basically, we have the basis for a WOT OTC price discovery mechanism here similar to http://bitcoin-otc.com/, since BM-addresses are 'owned' by the controllers of the private keys to those addresses. Keep in mind we can have broadcast channels for price offer/bid of designated asset-pairs but this is not the only reason reputation of BM-addresses would be useful.
If there was a way users could securely rate specific BM-addresses that would be the beginnings of a WOT for BM-keys. In fact, you could have several different ratings for each address, "Knowledgeable", "Dependable", "Tradeworthy", etc to cover different use cases for establishing trust with users of BM-addresses.
Let me know what you think ... thanx for the great software btw.
Basically, we have the basis for a WOT OTC price discovery mechanism here similar to http://bitcoin-otc.com/, since BM-addresses are 'owned' by the controllers of the private keys to those addresses. Keep in mind we can have broadcast channels for price offer/bid of designated asset-pairs but this is not the only reason reputation of BM-addresses would be useful.
If there was a way users could securely rate specific BM-addresses that would be the beginnings of a WOT for BM-keys. In fact, you could have several different ratings for each address, "Knowledgeable", "Dependable", "Tradeworthy", etc to cover different use cases for establishing trust with users of BM-addresses.
Let me know what you think ... thanx for the great software btw.
May 22, 2013, 04:51:22 AM
Us Fedora/OpenSUSE users don't have a way to compile binaries for ourselves. It would be helpful if there were options for us.
One of the better quotes in this forum so far
May 21, 2013, 05:30:33 AM
Is there a way to try this on OSX without compiling? Is there a downloadable .dmg file somewhere?
I believe it works on OSX ... you may have to install brew version of python and PyQt first.
May 21, 2013, 05:15:08 AM
Is there a way to try this on OSX without compiling? Is there a downloadable .dmg file somewhere?
May 20, 2013, 11:20:01 PM
Why heck can't you compile?
May 20, 2013, 10:42:21 PM
Us Fedora/OpenSUSE users don't have a way to compile binaries for ourselves. It would be helpful if there were options for us.
What in the world does this mean?
May 17, 2013, 10:22:52 AM
Us Fedora/OpenSUSE users don't have a way to compile binaries for ourselves. It would be helpful if there were options for us.
Thanks!
Thanks!
May 16, 2013, 12:13:55 AM
Interesting you need to leave it running... I supposed this is the same bad news just like when you realize bitcoins make you your own bank and now you have to protect your own assets...
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Unlike an email server you only need to connect once every two days to never miss any messages and also you obviously need-not worry about domain names or IP addresses.
Gotcha, I'll recognize that this system requires less work than "running an e-mail server" however, my point was more that I now have to do "something" rather than "nothing" which is what I do when I use an e-mail service.
Granted, the "something" may not be that much, and may be very much worth the advantages that come with it.
I'm just pointing out both perspectives to make sure I understand the pros/cons of this vs e-mail.
there's a difference between using an email service and running an email server. someone could very easily make a bitmessage service that also allows you to do "nothing" to receive messages, but using a 3rd-party to receive messages is the problem at hand.
May 14, 2013, 06:21:31 PM
Interesting you need to leave it running... I supposed this is the same bad news just like when you realize bitcoins make you your own bank and now you have to protect your own assets...
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Unlike an email server you only need to connect once every two days to never miss any messages and also you obviously need-not worry about domain names or IP addresses.
Probably just need to put it on the cron job list to run daily in the background to catch up and then otherwise when user logs in ... or something like that?
May 14, 2013, 02:47:36 PM
Interesting you need to leave it running... I supposed this is the same bad news just like when you realize bitcoins make you your own bank and now you have to protect your own assets...
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Unlike an email server you only need to connect once every two days to never miss any messages and also you obviously need-not worry about domain names or IP addresses.
Gotcha, I'll recognize that this system requires less work than "running an e-mail server" however, my point was more that I now have to do "something" rather than "nothing" which is what I do when I use an e-mail service.
Granted, the "something" may not be that much, and may be very much worth the advantages that come with it.
I'm just pointing out both perspectives to make sure I understand the pros/cons of this vs e-mail.
May 14, 2013, 02:35:16 PM
Interesting you need to leave it running... I supposed this is the same bad news just like when you realize bitcoins make you your own bank and now you have to protect your own assets...
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
Unlike an email server you only need to connect once every two days to never miss any messages and also you obviously need-not worry about domain names or IP addresses.
May 14, 2013, 09:22:47 AM
Yeah I wish messages were in the blockchain so you can get them any time but then the blockchain can be terabytes.
May 14, 2013, 08:29:27 AM
Do I have to be logged in 24-7 to not miss any bitmessages? (or at least once every day)
As long as it is on for a little while once every two days you will never miss messages. If you have it off longer than that the sender of the message will resend it the next time they are online.
BM slows down my internet: It takes long for pages to load up (~20sec vs <1s).
Funny thing though is that it does not always slow down my net. *Confusing*
PS: I still have isssues with knownnodes.dat - unless I delete it manually it takes ages to connect. I guess in the near future I will rather batch deleting and BM together...
PPS: Huge thanks for this awesome program nonetheless! *bow*
Funny thing though is that it does not always slow down my net. *Confusing*
PS: I still have isssues with knownnodes.dat - unless I delete it manually it takes ages to connect. I guess in the near future I will rather batch deleting and BM together...
PPS: Huge thanks for this awesome program nonetheless! *bow*
You are using Windows. Windows limits the number of outgoing connections which is causing your issue. The newest code, which you will be running on the next release, limits the number of outgoing connections for Windows users to solve the "connection slowness" issue you are feeling. Unfortunately the next version won't connect any faster but at least you won't notice it when it is running.
Interesting you need to leave it running... I supposed this is the same bad news just like when you realize bitcoins make you your own bank and now you have to protect your own assets...
Liberating and empowering, but as the same time risky and burdensome... not for everyone.
This sounds like it makes you your own e-mail server... liberating and empowering, but at the same time burdensome... not for everyone.
Still cool though!
May 13, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
Do I have to be logged in 24-7 to not miss any bitmessages? (or at least once every day)
As long as it is on for a little while once every two days you will never miss messages. If you have it off longer than that the sender of the message will resend it the next time they are online.
BM slows down my internet: It takes long for pages to load up (~20sec vs <1s).
Funny thing though is that it does not always slow down my net. *Confusing*
PS: I still have isssues with knownnodes.dat - unless I delete it manually it takes ages to connect. I guess in the near future I will rather batch deleting and BM together...
PPS: Huge thanks for this awesome program nonetheless! *bow*
Funny thing though is that it does not always slow down my net. *Confusing*
PS: I still have isssues with knownnodes.dat - unless I delete it manually it takes ages to connect. I guess in the near future I will rather batch deleting and BM together...
PPS: Huge thanks for this awesome program nonetheless! *bow*
You are using Windows. Windows limits the number of outgoing connections which is causing your issue. The newest code, which you will be running on the next release, limits the number of outgoing connections for Windows users to solve the "connection slowness" issue you are feeling. Unfortunately the next version won't connect any faster but at least you won't notice it when it is running.
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