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legendary
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August 10, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
You ripoff artists willing to do anything to make a quick buck off the backs of good people and great ideas are basically attacking the bitcoin that we all love so dearly.  I don't see how people like you who are creating competing currencies using the same exact software could be looked at by this community as anything other than the enemy.

Seriously?  You think a fork with no added features is going to divert more than a trivial amount of resources from Bitcoin?  Getting mad over this is just silly.

No, he is quite right, it is like that evil Santa guy, draining vast amounts of resources from grownups to finance a bunch of stupid toys for children, when children don't even have jobs for gosh sakes so are the last people on earth that deserve any resources! Sheesh!

-MarkM-
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August 10, 2011, 04:57:51 PM
I have 300 ix coins already  Grin
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August 10, 2011, 04:52:18 PM
But please, tell me if there's any other reason for this new block chain but personal enrichment.
Nope, no other reason. The +580,000 coins that he mined before he even made his project public will stay his.

I wonder when buttcoin.org starts his own chain. i would mine for that!
hero member
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August 10, 2011, 04:43:42 PM
I tought of this weeks ago. I wondered for myself, how long would it take for someone to make a new block chain, then get a head start with software and services for a quick 'get rich' scheme? I read in a wiki some weeks ago about which properties a new block chain could have. But here is Ixcoin, with no added benefit over bitcoins. In the future we will probably see a lot of different cryptocurrencies. I also see that http://www.ixcoin.org/ is a complete ripoff of bitcoin.org, at least with a first look. I imagined that the ones coming out with a new blockchain would make it more polished, and have more services already ready. As already pointed out, bitcoin is in it's infancy, so the mere purpose of ixcoin is ofcoure enrichement of the early adopters. If we say that at the moment one ixcoin is worth 0.00000001 btc, and I buy 50000 of these now for that price at 0.0005 btc, and the price rose to say 0.01 btc for 1 ixcoin, my initial 0.0005 investment would turn into a 500 btc, which is about 5000 USD with the current prices. And of course, the earnings would be gigantic if it reached parity with bitcoins. I am sure that stores now accepting bitcoins would easily accept also ixcoins, as I guess few modifications would be needed in the system.

But please, tell me if there's any other reason for this new block chain but personal enrichment.

And also, how do you feel about ripping of the entire (at least parts from the looks of it) bitcoin.org site? I don't know if that's allowed, or what license is used on that site.

So basically, this new cryptocurrency comes with no new features, so basically it is just profiteering gluttons piggybacking on the bitcoin community?
sr. member
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August 10, 2011, 04:38:48 PM
You ripoff artists willing to do anything to make a quick buck off the backs of good people and great ideas are basically attacking the bitcoin that we all love so dearly.  I don't see how people like you who are creating competing currencies using the same exact software could be looked at by this community as anything other than the enemy.

Seriously?  You think a fork with no added features is going to divert more than a trivial amount of resources from Bitcoin?  Getting mad over this is just silly.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
August 10, 2011, 04:36:52 PM
Okay your posting says to use port 8337 but your wiki says use port 8338. Which is it?

Also what is the name of the config file? ixcoin.conf? bitcoin.conf?

Your tutorials dont have proper documentation for anyone to start mining.

How do you expect people to help the project if you don't even have basic documentation?

ixcoin.conf, point miner to ixcoin.exe, start a solo miner with port 8337. Pretty simple stuff and I have little idea what I'm doing.

When you say point it to ixcoin.exe what do you mean? this is what I have so far using poclbm:

ixcoin.conf:

rpcuser=joe
rpcpassword=blow
server=1
maxconnections=60
rpcport=8337

miner settings:

start /DC:\bitcoin\poclbm_py2exe_20110428 poclbm.exe --user joe --pass=blow --host 192.168.1.10 --port 8337 --device=0 AGGRESSION=11 BFI_INT WORKSIZE=256 --verbose
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August 10, 2011, 04:30:39 PM
Okay your posting says to use port 8337 but your wiki says use port 8338. Which is it?

Also what is the name of the config file? ixcoin.conf? bitcoin.conf?

Your tutorials dont have proper documentation for anyone to start mining.

How do you expect people to help the project if you don't even have basic documentation?

I'm pretty sure 8337 is for the p2p network and 8338 is for RPC to connect the miner with the daemon.
Also ixcoin.conf.

Edit: Sorry for apparent double posting. There was a post between my 2 responses that has been deleted already.

What would my ixcoin.conf file look like? Post an example please.

rpcuser=youruser
rpcpassword=yourpassword
server=1

and if you want increase your connection limit.
maxconnections=60
I'm just guessing that'd be a good idea in order to decrease rejects because you're more up 2 date with the blockchain.

How many blocks have been solved?? It keeps downloading and downloading to no end.
At the current rate you won't see it "ending" the download. 7418 at the time of writing. They are generated really fast until the difficulty change.


If I am using guiminer would I put the port as 8337 into the mining settings?

What miner are u using?

I'm using DiabloMiner. 8338 is the RPC port for mining clients.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
August 10, 2011, 04:26:20 PM
Okay your posting says to use port 8337 but your wiki says use port 8338. Which is it?

Also what is the name of the config file? ixcoin.conf? bitcoin.conf?

Your tutorials dont have proper documentation for anyone to start mining.

How do you expect people to help the project if you don't even have basic documentation?

I'm pretty sure 8337 is for the p2p network and 8338 is for RPC to connect the miner with the daemon.
Also ixcoin.conf.

Edit: Sorry for apparent double posting. There was a post between my 2 responses that has been deleted already.

What would my ixcoin.conf file look like? Post an example please.

rpcuser=youruser
rpcpassword=yourpassword
server=1

and if you want increase your connection limit.
maxconnections=60
I'm just guessing that'd be a good idea in order to decrease rejects because you're more up 2 date with the blockchain.

How many blocks have been solved?? It keeps downloading and downloading to no end.
At the current rate you won't see it "ending" the download. 7418 at the time of writing. They are generated really fast until the difficulty change.


If I am using guiminer would I put the port as 8337 into the mining settings?

What miner are u using?
donator
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August 10, 2011, 04:25:29 PM
Ouch!!!!

But it's not ripoff when the source is free Smiley

Sex is free too, but rapists still exist.
donator
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August 10, 2011, 04:21:49 PM
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How would one go about purchasing such mind notes?

You send me bitcoins (link in my sig).  I remember your username in my head along with the amount of notes you bought.  They can be redeemed at anytime by simply asking me to forget your name.

Current price, 5BTC. Hurry, they go up to 10BTC in 2 more hours and 10.1BTC by tomorrow!!!
hero member
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August 10, 2011, 04:19:13 PM
So how much are they worth currently anyway? 0.0001 BTC each? How much is that in NMC? In GRP? In DVC? In MBC? Etc.

Will be good when there are more exchanges that ignore stupid fiat crap in favour of exchanging actual bitcoin-type currencies.

-MarkM-


I agree, we need more coin-for-coin exchanges. I started working on an exchange once upon a time but had too many problems with Dwolla and C# not playing nicely... Perhaps I could modify what I've already got to serve as a BTC/NMC/IXC/GRP/DVC/MBC/etc exchange...

As for current value... While I see no reason to tie USD values to difficulty, I think difficulty could be a great tool for estimating the worth of coin-to-coin exchanges... IXC diff is currently 4, BTC diff is currently 1888786.70535 so it seems to me that 1 IXC should be valued somewhere in the neighborhood of 4/1888786.70535=0.00000212 BTC (rounded to the nearest satoshi). Do the math the other way to find that 1 BTC ~= 472,196.67633750 IXC.

Of course difficulty 4 won't last for long, even with a measly 2 GH/s for the whole pool, so it may be too early to attempt such a valuation.

Of course, we have namecoin to base our math on too... Already-existing resources have shown that historically NMC is valued at about 2/3 (67.9%) of what this ratio says it should be (on average). The argument that namecoins have intrinsic value because of the service offered by the network might be slightly true, but the bitparking exchange has a volume much higher than the actual NMC spent on registrations, so they're likely being traded by speculators much the same as BTC. If we apply this fractional value to IXC we get the following:

1 BTC ~= 320,621.54323316 IXC
1 IXC ~= 0.00000144 BTC

Yeah let's redo the math after a few weeks worth of difficulty updates Tongue
hero member
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August 10, 2011, 04:19:05 PM
In order for you to create a new currency, the old currency has to first be broken.
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August 10, 2011, 04:17:32 PM
#99
So, this is a bitcoin clone, with no added purpose, nobody accepting it for anything and no place to buy or sell it.  To top it off here's here on the bitcoin forum trying to steal miners and developers from a potentially awesome project?  C'mon man...  This seems horrible for bitcoin in my opinion.  How am I supposed to talk anyone into accepting bitcoins when there are 5 million bitcoin clones out there all trying to compete with the project they ripped off?

You ripoff artists willing to do anything to make a quick buck off the backs of good people and great ideas are basically attacking the bitcoin that we all love so dearly.  I don't see how people like you who are creating competing currencies using the same exact software could be looked at by this community as anything other than the enemy.

Creating a fake japanese sounding name and using that avatar was awesome though.  If you weren't being serious about this, it would have been an awesome joke.  Now it's just a bad joke.
Ouch!!!!

But it's not ripoff when the source is free Smiley
sr. member
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August 10, 2011, 04:14:48 PM
#98

You seem to have added a get block RPC but apart from that your changes look pretty normal, except that you seem to have neglected to change the four-byte hello sequence that protects each variant from chatting pointlessly with some other variant when people start using patches that allow them to run on non-standard ports.

As long as people stick to the hardcoded networking port, fine. But as soon as some user of mainstream bitcoin hacks his bitcoind to use some weird port that happens to be the port Ixcoin normally uses, you will get told of thousands of nodes all of which will be happy to flood you the same way if your code too is willing to try connecting to a port other than its hardcoded normal port.

So I'd suggest maybe picking a hardcoded hello string for your main net and your test net and get them in use quick before there are so many nodes it is a bit late for such a change.


Good point. We were torn on that one. We didn't change the four-byte hello sequence in the end because we wanted to maximize compatibility with third party Bitcoin apps/websites and minimize adoption difficulty.

I really think you should do this.  Also you should come up with a config file for multicoin.  I think not too far down the line we are going to have a multicoin like client that works on multiple block chains at the same time and multiplexes one port.  You should position ixcoin for this now while it is the easiest to get everyone switched over.
donator
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August 10, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
#97
So, this is a bitcoin clone, with no added purpose, nobody accepting it for anything and no place to buy or sell it.  To top it off he's here on the bitcoin forum trying to steal miners and developers from a potentially awesome project?  C'mon man...  This seems horrible for bitcoin in my opinion.  How am I supposed to talk anyone into accepting bitcoins when there are 5 million bitcoin clones out there all trying to compete with the project they ripped off?

You ripoff artists willing to do anything to make a quick buck off the backs of good people and great ideas are basically attacking the bitcoin that we all love so dearly.  I don't see how people like you who are creating competing currencies using the same exact software could be looked at by this community as anything other than the enemy.

Creating a fake japanese sounding name and using that avatar was awesome though.  If you weren't being serious about this, it would have been an awesome joke.  Now it's just a bad joke.
legendary
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Reverse engineer from time to time
August 10, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
#96
This likely happens because of wx widgets. I think it was because of version 2.9 that the gui doesnt show up
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August 10, 2011, 04:01:48 PM
#95
Hm Linux 64bit client doesn't start... Very strange... Huh

Sorry to hear that. Do you get an error message? What platform are you running?

Current Ubuntu 64bit, the client window isn't showing up, but the directory with the blockchain and wallet was created. I tried to start ixcoin not ixcoind in the 64 directory.
Same here.
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August 10, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
#94
Hm Linux 64bit client doesn't start... Very strange... Huh

Sorry to hear that. Do you get an error message? What platform are you running?

Current Ubuntu 64bit, the client window isn't showing up, but the directory with the blockchain and wallet was created. I tried to start ixcoin not ixcoind in the 64 directory.
legendary
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August 10, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
#93
It is going to take a bit to download those 580,000 already mined ixcoins.

So how much are they worth currently anyway? 0.0001 BTC each? How much is that in NMC? In GRP? In DVC? In MBC? Etc.

Will be good when there are more exchanges that ignore stupid fiat crap in favour of exchanging actual bitcoin-type currencies.

-MarkM-
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August 10, 2011, 03:56:44 PM
#92
A few Q's:

1. What vendors accept Ixcoins?
2. What is being done to build/strengthen trade infrastructure with Ixcoins?
3. What is being done to ensure secure transactions between merchant/customer?
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