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newbie
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"Low cap, or any cap, staking coins are producing a token that has whatever value users agree on, but has no other real utility, i.e., no intrinsic value."

The only value they need to have is produce BTC.  If you believe in BTC, they work.  They just need to do it right to stay alive, which about 25 have done so far.  


Satoshi Nakamoto has a website that discusses the basics of economics.
\edit Thought https://nakamotoinstitute.org/ had a long blog on economics, but cannot find it now.

First you need to accurately understand what a commodity is i.e., a useful product which has limited supply.

From there you can go in the wrong direction and create a useless product which has a limited supply, e.g. a ledger system like bitcoin.

Or you can find a way to transfer actual commodities digitally e.g. commodities created by computer work.

Bitcoin p/o/w. = not a useful commodity, no intrinsic value.

Science ai p/o/w, primecoin is the simplest example = a useful commodity with actual value in terms of other commodities.

To look at it another way, there are an endless number of possible bitcoins, such as hobotokens, ltc etc. In rich times we can play like they are commodities, but when a storm hits you should have a more real thing, not a 'pseudo' commodity.

Namecoin can solve several upcoming problems if it is developed well and not cornered by a gang or interest group.

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Add a separate relevant point/

Every person, belief, etc is on a continuum of globalist/tribal.

For example the productivity software you sell is on the extreme globalist end of the continuum, it could be called meta globalist even.

Your opinions on bitcoin likewise are at the globalist end of the continuum or spectrum.

I have no idea if you are interested in the opposite view, but I'll mention it in case you are.

A tribal group that has security eventually sacrifices defenses in favor of sciences. The example of Tibetan sciences was given before. Tibetans were securely defended by mountains and drifted away from martial skills towards sciences. The Chinese then attacked and the Tibetan sciences now are being destroyed, vanishing.

Marshall Island wave piloting is another well known example. Marshallese had liberty/security to develop that fascinating science. A hundred years ago anybody could go there and witness it. Then the Japanese attacked them. Then the U.S. began playing with nukes there. Today nobody really knows if wave piloting is really possible i.e., look at a patch of ocean and identify the bordering land masses by distance and size etc. In a hundred years it will be considered a fantasy science that never actually existed.

The opposite of those real sciences are globalist things masquerading as science, things intended to consolidate already existing sciences.

For example Einstein is called a scientist, but what he actually did was consolidate/globalize what already existed. He was not a scientist but a technician.

Likewise the specific productivity software. It consolidates, reshuffles the same deck.

The problem is that many globalists do not understand that there are alternate worldviews.

They are trained to pretend that they do, but they are dangerous because actually they do not.

The 'pretending' is seen as, or called, 'virtues', by some people, which makes it even more dangerous.

With regard to tribal groups the first virtue is survival. No globalist virtue exists if that first tribal virtue does not.

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You're just refloating the same conspiracy theories without providing any sort of tangible evidence to back them.

"If you look, you'll see..." isn't a convincing argument to anybody in a position to take any sort of rational action when it comes to Namecoin, or most things.

It's also entertaining (at least to me and my colleagues) that PrimeHunter2023's wild speculation is exactly the opposite of the conclusions anyone who's remotely paying attention to Namecoin would draw. Case in point: "But a person does not see devs offering to work on the first altcoin after Bitcoin? Have any other developers been directly discouraged from working on Namecoin?"

Our team actually *has* been growing, and it's primarily because Namecoin devs (including but not limited to me) are recruiting new developers (and finding funding for those new developers), and those new developers decide they like our community and choose to stick around. (Robert and Rose are two recent team additions; Robert joined circa January 2023 and Rose joined circa January 2024.) None of this is a secret; we talk about this publicly all the time.

It's well known that cypherpunk communities attract mentally unwell people who are prone to all kinds of weird conspiracy theories. (I've coined "Rand's Law of Weekends" to describe how most of them vanish from the Tor IRC channels during the work week.) I'm pretty used to it by now; it doesn't actively bother me, and generally I find them entertaining. Nevertheless, "Jeremy is working with Chinese intelligence to stop the public from finding out that they have a backdoor for RSA and EC crypto, and Namecoin is actually a sheepdog project to stop endangered natural languages from being saved from extinction" certainly takes the cake for the wildest one I've seen in recent memory. v0v
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You're just refloating the same conspiracy theories without providing any sort of tangible evidence to back them.

"If you look, you'll see..." isn't a convincing argument to anybody in a position to take any sort of rational action when it comes to Namecoin, or most things.
hero member
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"Low cap, or any cap, staking coins are producing a token that has whatever value users agree on, but has no other real utility, i.e., no intrinsic value."

The only value they need to have is produce BTC.  If you believe in BTC, they work.  They just need to do it right to stay alive, which about 25 have done so far. 
newbie
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There are many "failing virtuous systems," a phrase I coined.  

Traffic exchanges and safelists are a technology that has been around for about 25 years, and could be used as a grass
roots network larger than facebook, but very few have adopted them, although they are still actively used.

https://www.paramind.net/paramindtrafficexchanges.html
https://www.paramind.net/paramindsafelists.html

Those resources are not that current but about 80% of the sites listed are working sites.

Another virtuous system that is failing are the low cap coin staking wallets.  There were about 20 good coins/decent teams
that have essentially failed in the last two years, some of these coins were 7 years old (hobotoken).  They still are an easy
way to produce Bitcoin on a cheap computer for a low investment, but you need to know which coins are still alive.

https://telicalbooks.com/Staking_Book_RSPearson.html

I'm not sure about the overall virtue of Namecoin, I just meant its inclusion in the light of the fact it was the second cryptocurrency in existence.






It's notclear to me exactly what you mean.

The traffic exchanges seem to be a sort of technical way to build a business network more than anything?

Low cap, or any cap, staking coins are producing a token that has whatever value users agree on, but has no other real utility, i.e., no intrinsic value.

Those coins, like bitcoin, are good for learning about digital currency, plus they feature something likely to be important in coming cbdc's, but nothing of value can be done with them aside from that.

Namecoin was the second recent cryptocurrency after bitcoin, so it has that sort of novelty or celebrity appeal for bitcoin types.

Also though there were dozens of digital currencies before bitcoin going back to the early 1990s.

Bitcoin is unique in that once most of the coins had been mined, i.e., after the first halving, it was slickly promoted.

The real value of namecoin is that it creates both an internet and an associated economy, that can be cloned by any group that does not want to be limited by icann or their local government.

If the internet/economy had been in that form much earlier it might have given survival chances to some groups that vanished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_extinct_languages

In the last hundred years Australia and the United States have led the world in exterminating ancient cultures / languages / tribes.

Europe has been carefully walked into a system that is likely to become authoritarian as it gets weaker and there will be fewer liberties at that point to develop tools for groups.

Namecoin could be adapted so that a clone can only be used by people who speak a certain language...
it could use one time cyphers instead of flawed cryptography, so you have a thumb drive with gbs of random data and you cannot get on the local version until you physically meet and provide data for communication to somebody who speaks that language and is on that network...etc.

Other possibilities too such as already discussed incorporating 'human mining' along the lines of hunter, hathor, etc, and using that mining to produce an actual digital commodity like 'science ai' instead of pissing energy into oblivion like with bitcoin.


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One of several comments by others that asks the question more articulately.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6017.1780

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........claims that only the functionality is important.........yet for many years I have personally seen no functionality, even to try it in the nightly build  tor browser is almost impossible. Mayor exchanges have been delisting NMC do to low volume and lack of interest, I have been holding this coin for three years also thinking about its functionality but only have seen my investment been reduced 10 times, there seems to be no limit to how low the price of this coin can go, something is definitely not working. If there is something in all these years I have noticed is that when Bitcoin pumps, Namecoin bleeds, and when Bitcoin dumps, Namecoin bleeds even harder. If functionality was the only important thing, then why not just create a non-monetary domain blockchain, its like saying that you only care about the functionality of your bicycle but that the roads you ride in are of no importance because they are unpredictable and irrational.

Obviously something is going on with Namecoin that is not quite right.

If somebody believes that groups should not have the ability to form computer networks unless they are monitored by authorities then please say that and we can discuss the pros and cons of each side.

The silliness about
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Namecoin's main purpose is (unlike most other altcoins/tokens) not to be an investment, but to be actually useful as decentralised domain name and general naming system
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It's not particularly surprising that newcomers to cryptocurrency don't have much interest in Namecoin.  Namecoin is derived from the culture that permeated the Bitcoin community in 2010-2011, which was a culture that was here for the tech, not to make easy money.  Today's cryptocurrency culture doesn't look much like that (sadly), so Namecoin is of little interest to them.  On the other hand, there's plenty of interest in other areas, e.g. in the Tor community.  Even a bit of media coverage now and then.

Real cypherpunks don't worry about whatever market fads are en vogue now.  Cypherpunks write code.
doesn't fly.

Namecoin could be a useful project.

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So the question, again.

Looking back over Namecoin's history, a common thread seems to be a subtle misdirection of any effort to bring the coin to a wider audience.

Would anybody speculate on the view that Namecoin is being carefully used, not to encourage a decentralized naming system, but to prevent one?

For example there are thousands of devs working on thousands of coins. But a person does not see devs offering to work on the first altcoin after Bitcoin?

Have any other developers been directly discouraged from working on Namecoin?






There are many "failing virtuous systems," a phrase I coined.  

Traffic exchanges and safelists are a technology that has been around for about 25 years, and could be used as a grass
roots network larger than facebook, but very few have adopted them, although they are still actively used.

https://www.paramind.net/paramindtrafficexchanges.html
https://www.paramind.net/paramindsafelists.html

Those resources are not that current but about 80% of the sites listed are working sites.

Another virtuous system that is failing are the low cap coin staking wallets.  There were about 20 good coins/decent teams
that have essentially failed in the last two years, some of these coins were 7 years old (hobotoken).  They still are an easy
way to produce Bitcoin on a cheap computer for a low investment, but you need to know which coins are still alive.

https://telicalbooks.com/Staking_Book_RSPearson.html

I'm not sure about the overall virtue of Namecoin, I just meant its inclusion in the light of the fact it was the second cryptocurrency in existence.




newbie
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One of several comments by others that asks the question more articulately.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6017.1780

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........claims that only the functionality is important.........yet for many years I have personally seen no functionality, even to try it in the nightly build  tor browser is almost impossible. Mayor exchanges have been delisting NMC do to low volume and lack of interest, I have been holding this coin for three years also thinking about its functionality but only have seen my investment been reduced 10 times, there seems to be no limit to how low the price of this coin can go, something is definitely not working. If there is something in all these years I have noticed is that when Bitcoin pumps, Namecoin bleeds, and when Bitcoin dumps, Namecoin bleeds even harder. If functionality was the only important thing, then why not just create a non-monetary domain blockchain, its like saying that you only care about the functionality of your bicycle but that the roads you ride in are of no importance because they are unpredictable and irrational.

Obviously something is going on with Namecoin that is not quite right.

If somebody believes that groups should not have the ability to form computer networks unless they are monitored by authorities then please say that and we can discuss the pros and cons of each side.

The silliness about
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Namecoin's main purpose is (unlike most other altcoins/tokens) not to be an investment, but to be actually useful as decentralised domain name and general naming system
and
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It's not particularly surprising that newcomers to cryptocurrency don't have much interest in Namecoin.  Namecoin is derived from the culture that permeated the Bitcoin community in 2010-2011, which was a culture that was here for the tech, not to make easy money.  Today's cryptocurrency culture doesn't look much like that (sadly), so Namecoin is of little interest to them.  On the other hand, there's plenty of interest in other areas, e.g. in the Tor community.  Even a bit of media coverage now and then.

Real cypherpunks don't worry about whatever market fads are en vogue now.  Cypherpunks write code.
doesn't fly.

Namecoin could be a useful project.

~~~~

So the question, again.

Looking back over Namecoin's history, a common thread seems to be a subtle misdirection of any effort to bring the coin to a wider audience.

Would anybody speculate on the view that Namecoin is being carefully used, not to encourage a decentralized naming system, but to prevent one?

For example there are thousands of devs working on thousands of coins. But a person does not see devs offering to work on the first altcoin after Bitcoin?

Have any other developers been directly discouraged from working on Namecoin?


newbie
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One more funny/sad/ironic twist about tor, since somebody brought it up.

Drug dealers are pretty safe on tor nowadays since it has become such a useful tool in busting snowden wannabes.

All the major news outlets tell people to submit corruption, misconduct etc stories via tor.
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Somebody submits stuff that's too sensitive though and they are picked up and an agent assumes their tor identity to clean things up.

Just like in the old Soviet Union, it will be decades before we hear the stories of those people and their 'Patriot Act Provision" trials.

That's not even counting sites like The Intercept that work directly with authorities to bust leakers.


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Schaeffer Cox for president, except he is in a Communication Managed Prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_management_unit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkHt6dkHiMw

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newbie
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Would either of you speculate on the view that Namecoin is being carefully used not to encourage a decentralized naming system, but to prevent one?

No, that sounds ridiculous. Besides, a decentralized naming system already existed before Bitcoin: Tor.

Looking back over Namecoin's history, a common thread seems to be a subtle misdirection of any effort to bring the coin to a wider audience.

Any comment? Or it's just more "bullshit"?

Definitely the latter. I just appreciate that there's any activity in this thread at all. What I've seen over the years is people try to influence development for their own personal gain. Would be nice if there was a more user-friendly ".bit" browser extension to access Namecoin domains. But the thing is Tor already does a pretty good job of being un-censorable.

Tor is a proven honeypot, if you force me to acknowledge that.

We can discuss dpr evidence from freeross if you like.
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Would either of you speculate on the view that Namecoin is being carefully used not to encourage a decentralized naming system, but to prevent one?

Looking back over Namecoin's history, a common thread seems to be a subtle misdirection of any effort to bring the coin to a wider audience.

Any comment? Or it's just more "bullshit"?

I mean, if you actually provided a specific claim rather than... whatever the hell the above is, I might be inclined to engage. But since you didn't, no, I'm not going to engage with inverse PoW.

That said, the people in a cypherpunk channel I hang out in did appreciate the comic relief about EC math, so thanks for that.

It's easy to con some people with platitudes that suggest you are hiding a superior motive.

Do you have an explanation for why Namecoin should not compete with Bitcoin that will get past my 60 year old bullshit detector?

My genuine impression is that you are deliberately trying to limit the popularity of decentralized naming, e.g. nmc.

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Just to be clear, there is a world of difference between a small space for mostly drugs e.g. tor, and a wide space for the survival of threatened groups e.g. decentralized secure names.
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Regarding your besties being entertained by my ec math

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RSA Security in September 2013 issued an advisory recommending that its customers discontinue using any software based on Dual_EC_DRBG.[8][9] In the wake of the exposure of Dual_EC_DRBG as "an NSA undercover operation", cryptography experts have also expressed concern over the security of the NIST recommended elliptic curves,[10] suggesting a return to encryption based on non-elliptic-curve groups.

As mentioned before, I'm not a cryptographer nor mathematician but I have common sense. PKC is a total fraud./ I've had discussions on this topic going back many years and I know the bullshitstorm you guys can cook up. Bring it on.
legendary
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Would either of you speculate on the view that Namecoin is being carefully used not to encourage a decentralized naming system, but to prevent one?

No, that sounds ridiculous. Besides, a decentralized naming system already existed before Bitcoin: Tor.

Looking back over Namecoin's history, a common thread seems to be a subtle misdirection of any effort to bring the coin to a wider audience.

Any comment? Or it's just more "bullshit"?

Definitely the latter. I just appreciate that there's any activity in this thread at all. What I've seen over the years is people try to influence development for their own personal gain. Would be nice if there was a more user-friendly ".bit" browser extension to access Namecoin domains. But the thing is Tor already does a pretty good job of being un-censorable.
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The analogy is actually a bit more complex than that: while PoW is asymmetric in the sense that it's highly expensive to produce a PoW but trivially easy to verify it, bullshit is asymmetric in the opposite direction: not only is it trivially easy to produce bullshit, but it's *also* highly expensive to debunk it.

That makes sense. Guess that's why its not practical to secure a blockchain with bullshit.
FWIW there's an alternate formulation (which I like less) of this general concept called Brandolini's Law. According to Wikipedia it was coined in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

Would either of you speculate on the view that Namecoin is being carefully used not to encourage a decentralized naming system, but to prevent one?

Looking back over Namecoin's history, a common thread seems to be a subtle misdirection of any effort to bring the coin to a wider audience.

Any comment? Or it's just more "bullshit"?

I mean, if you actually provided a specific claim rather than... whatever the hell the above is, I might be inclined to engage. But since you didn't, no, I'm not going to engage with inverse PoW.

That said, the people in a cypherpunk channel I hang out in did appreciate the comic relief about EC math, so thanks for that.
newbie
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Wow, lots of spam in this thread this week. Skipping over the inverse PoW....

Bullshit is an inverse PoW function

This is a great quote & if I use it in the future I'll credit it to you. You're exactly & succinctly correct: bullshitting is the opposite of having done any actual tangible work whatsoever. Anybody can bullshit, its free & has zero energy cost.

Keep up the good fight.

The analogy is actually a bit more complex than that: while PoW is asymmetric in the sense that it's highly expensive to produce a PoW but trivially easy to verify it, bullshit is asymmetric in the opposite direction: not only is it trivially easy to produce bullshit, but it's *also* highly expensive to debunk it.

Alas, I regret to inform you that I didn't come up with the analogy, I just picked it up from my social graph long ago. I don't know who first came up with it, but a quick Twitter search shows that JJ from Handshake (whom I've worked with in the past) said in 2020 that someone had previously told him the analogy, but he didn't seem to remember who told him either. I think I first heard it before 2020 (but it's hard to be sure), and I don't think either JJ or I am the other's source (again, hard to be sure). Anyway, it seems to be popular lore among cypherpunks by now. If you ever find out who first said it, please let me know, but in any event, crediting me is unnecessary: I'm just a relay.


The analogy is actually a bit more complex than that: while PoW is asymmetric in the sense that it's highly expensive to produce a PoW but trivially easy to verify it, bullshit is asymmetric in the opposite direction: not only is it trivially easy to produce bullshit, but it's *also* highly expensive to debunk it.

That makes sense. Guess that's why its not practical to secure a blockchain with bullshit.

Some irony there.

Would either of you speculate on the view that Namecoin is being carefully used not to encourage a decentralized naming system, but to prevent one?

Looking back over Namecoin's history, a common thread seems to be a subtle misdirection of any effort to bring the coin to a wider audience.

Any comment? Or it's just more "bullshit"?

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Seems to be a core group has popped up every time since 2013 that anybody has tried to promote Namecoin.
Then carefully politely shot them down til they disappeared.

sqbit?

Many others if a person reads the thread carefully.

I'd love to hear suggestions on how we could do a better job on this.

Perhaps, some additional work on the features of the coin, that would appeal to the greater audience. If there is no displeasure with the idea of the more "financial" coin.

I don't see much reason to try to compete with Bitcoin, if that's what you mean by "financial".  Bitcoin already works extremely well at what it does.  Remember the Unix philosophy.  Smiley

a) Some work on the features enabling greater swiftness of the transactions (segwit, lightninings, the like). Regular info updates on this work.

We recently activated CLTV; up next in the consensus fork department is AAA, then CSV, and then I think we'll activate SegWit.  That said, we pretty much always follow what Bitcoin does, so if by some chance SegWit is still being held up in Bitcoin, I think it's somewhat unlikely that we'll try to activate before Bitcoin.

I really like Lightning, and we have some plans where Lightning will be highly useful.

b) Clearly, visibly, outlined emphasis on those privacy/security features, which differentiate the n. from the other coins, or put it in the same league with the more advanced ones (in terms of privacy, security)

Privacy/security is a strong focus for me at the moment.  On the privacy front, while I was in London for QCon last month, I met up with Riccardo Spagni from Monero to discuss collaboration plans; I'm also engaging with the Tor people.  On the security front, one of the use cases that we're really pushing is TLS... hopefully an announcement will be made soon on this front.

c) It appears that at the moment namecoin mostly covers the narrow field: "bit" domains, etc. So, some additional emphasis can be made on the other things, and the website design can embody this (more simple finance-oriented sections separated from the more specialized bit/dns-oriented sections).

See my above comment on the Unix philosophy.  There are lots of blockchains that specialize in being a currency (mainly Bitcoin); we specialize in naming.  That said, I see plenty of room for diversification into identity-related applications.  Daniel Kraft's NameID is a really cool proof of concept; I have some ideas on how it could be improved.  There are several other use case ideas that have been thrown around, and just no one has had a chance to work on them yet.

I am not sure, though, if my ideas make any sense, and are not just a waste of time and efforts for the devs.

No worries.  Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6017.1260

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6017.720

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legendary
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The analogy is actually a bit more complex than that: while PoW is asymmetric in the sense that it's highly expensive to produce a PoW but trivially easy to verify it, bullshit is asymmetric in the opposite direction: not only is it trivially easy to produce bullshit, but it's *also* highly expensive to debunk it.

That makes sense. Guess that's why its not practical to secure a blockchain with bullshit.
member
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Wow, lots of spam in this thread this week. Skipping over the inverse PoW....

Bullshit is an inverse PoW function

This is a great quote & if I use it in the future I'll credit it to you. You're exactly & succinctly correct: bullshitting is the opposite of having done any actual tangible work whatsoever. Anybody can bullshit, its free & has zero energy cost.

Keep up the good fight.

The analogy is actually a bit more complex than that: while PoW is asymmetric in the sense that it's highly expensive to produce a PoW but trivially easy to verify it, bullshit is asymmetric in the opposite direction: not only is it trivially easy to produce bullshit, but it's *also* highly expensive to debunk it.

Alas, I regret to inform you that I didn't come up with the analogy, I just picked it up from my social graph long ago. I don't know who first came up with it, but a quick Twitter search shows that JJ from Handshake (whom I've worked with in the past) said in 2020 that someone had previously told him the analogy, but he didn't seem to remember who told him either. I think I first heard it before 2020 (but it's hard to be sure), and I don't think either JJ or I am the other's source (again, hard to be sure). Anyway, it seems to be popular lore among cypherpunks by now. If you ever find out who first said it, please let me know, but in any event, crediting me is unnecessary: I'm just a relay.
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One last observation regarding biolizard's comment, then I'll give it a rest.

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Litecoin's PoW is a joke that no cryptographer would ever want to go near. Maybe that's OK for Huntercoin's threat model (no state actor is going to try to take over the Huntercoin blockchain) but it's not going to fly here.

Let's start with the simple truth.

No competent mathematician or cryptographer would say that there is a math function that produces random numbers. Many dishonest mathematicians and cryptographers do say that though, for the same reason others often oppose a truth to favor a powerful gang.

The common digital currency PK algorithms cannot be bruteforced using regular computers, but they can be solved using common sense.

All of these algorithms produce a series of overlapping patterns e.g. 'curves', and a person can use that fact to solve a specific value within a broader PK ecosystem.

Overwhelming evidence points to a significant number of groups, and possibly individuals, as having the practical skill developed such that they can steal coins at will.

The U.S. government, and other, are aware of this and provide elaborate cover for these pirates.

The rationale appears to be that those bureaucrats profiting from the deception want to continue it as long as possible, for their own benefit, while the pirates know that as long as they don't get greedy they can bleed the public slowly and usg will provide cover.

It has become ridiculous the stories about North Korean hackers breaking into secure systems and stealing bitcoin.

When North Korea needs to assemble a bicycle their first step is to request Chinese advisors. But hack bitcoin? No problem.

Regarding scrypt, the only relevance is that it was used in Litecoin which some see as a Chinese coin.

So as long as the game goes on, China and the U.S. and a few others will be able to use cryptography to finish conquering their victims, whether Tlinquit or Tibetan, Uyghur or Iroquois.

A year or two ago the U.S. government put out a notice that China was approaching the ability to crack and interfere with realtime encrypted satellite communications.

The core of the "big player" game has nothing to do with freedoms or liberty. Very much the opposite.

It's the centuries old competition between Britain and China over which can eat/exterminate more tribal societies.

Does Namecoin play a role? Yes. As long as namecoin can be used to attract and identify those interested in using digital infrastructure to help indigenous tribes, and as long as it can prevent such a digital infrastructure from evolving, it will be serving its British and Chinese globalist masters.

If you want to discuss cryptographic flaws more specifically, raise the subject again.

A few more examples to make the point.

1) Anybody who has been on the icann internet since 2006 and followed certain issues know that for a long time there was a lot of evidence that N Korea's first 'nuclear' explosion was really a pile of conventional explosives. Want the truth today? Google and icann would rather you not have it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/13/AR2006101300576.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=korea+peninsula+defense+spending

2) Want details on the Hartree-modified Wilhelmi protocol which the UK has said must remain secret until 2095? Ask Google and icann. Oh wait, don't bother.


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View first quote on Erath {Un-Erase-Able data in Link}


Not going to click the link, I have enough mystery bugs already, but I see it is about Islam.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/838db940f25b895bcffd8857171e0b0ea39612ccb27e619e0d1154474ddc7350/details

But some history.

"The Third Reich, meaning "Third Realm" or "Third Empire", referred to the Nazi claim that Nazi Germany was the successor to the earlier Holy Roman Empire (800–1806) and German Empire (1871–1918)."

At the early times of the Roman empire the emperor needed a way to pacify hostile tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/josephusjesus.html

.etc...


Edit to add a competing view

What were the three Reichs?
The history of the nation state known as the German Reich is commonly divided into three periods:
German Empire (1871–1918)
Weimar Republic (1918–1933)
Nazi Germany (1933–1945)

Which means the British empire could be seen as the second, or third depending on perspective, empire/reich.


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Hence, despite being Jewish, I recommend the Europa, TLB documentary.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abj5593

https://www.sciencemagazinedigital.org/sciencemagazine/07_january_2021/MobilePagedArticle.action?articleId=1756858#articleId1756858

Looked over some previous conversations on this thread, and it is slowly dawning on me that the goal of namecoin is not to create a decentralized naming system, but to prevent it.
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Looked over some previous conversations on this thread, and it is slowly dawning on me that the goal of namecoin is not to create a decentralized naming system, but to prevent it.
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Bullshit is an inverse PoW function

This is a great quote & if I use it in the future I'll credit it to you. You're exactly & succinctly correct: bullshitting is the opposite of having done any actual tangible work whatsoever. Anybody can bullshit, its free & has zero energy cost.

Keep up the good fight.

You are quite the cheerleader.

Why don't you sit on his lap and wiggle around a bit?

Namecoin has become a coin of empty cheerleaders.

Lots of empty rhetoric but no interest in fixing what is broken, because, according to one of the nmc devs



Namecoin is, generally speaking, not a vehicle for testing experimental blockchain features. To the extent that we do scientific research, it's mostly in layer 2, and occasionally on-chain only for things that are critically required for the naming system to work.

If you think it's "cavalier" that the Namecoin community wants to be a naming system as opposed to an economics experiment, I'm not really sure what to say. *shrug*



Error code: CF_HAPPY_EYEBALLS_MITM_FAILURE
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Bullshit is an inverse PoW function

This is a great quote & if I use it in the future I'll credit it to you. You're exactly & succinctly correct: bullshitting is the opposite of having done any actual tangible work whatsoever. Anybody can bullshit, its free & has zero energy cost.

Keep up the good fight.
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