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Topic: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools - page 18. (Read 85500 times)

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Solidcoin won't fail. Coinhunter has done really good job setting this game up Smiley. The same people talking crap now will be shooting themselves in the head in 6 months knowing they could have bought at these prices. I think all cryptography will have a place in the future, and anyone thinking there is only room for one is a fucking moron.

Pardon my french...

I agree, the objection to SolidCoin and all the other forks seems to be more of a moral one rather than an intellectual one.  It's basically "Satoshi was a genius, what have you done?  Why should you make any money?"  I agree with most of what CoinHunter has done, except for the lower number of coins.  This whole Bitcoins/Solidcoins/whatever scarcity tactic is BS.  Once difficulty or prices get too high, somebody will create a fork.  I could create more solidcoins today by taking the existing code and creating a new genesis block.  They wouldn't technically be SolidCoins, but they would accomplish the same thing and work exactly the same way.  So I don't really see what limiting the supply of coins accomplishes, it actually makes it more likely to fail in the long run in my opinion.
legendary
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Solidcoin won't fail. Coinhunter has done a really good job setting this game up Smiley. The same people talking crap now will be shooting themselves in the head in 6 months knowing they could have bought at these prices. I think all cryptography will have a place in the future, and anyone thinking there is only room for one is a fucking moron.

Pardon my french...
member
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I like Bitcoin, Monero and BCash
sr. member
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What's coming boys and girls?
donator
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Merit: 1350
Creator of Litecoin. Cryptocurrency enthusiast.
Oh, and if you want to talk, then defend your reasoning for your changes. So far (AFAIK) you have just been claiming SolidCoins is so much better than Bitcoins without any real evidence.

Why 32 coins instead of 50? Just to be different or is there a valid reason that 32 is better?

Why 2%, 6%, and 10%? Like someone suggested, you could have made a constant change to cap the difficulty increase at 10%. That would have accomplished nearly the same thing as your complicated change, which could potentially introduce bugs or security holes. What's the point of 2% and 6%, other than inflating the number of coins faster than it should? Does increasing difficulty by only 2% and 6% really do anything material? Have you run simulations to see what it does? Or is just because you felt like it was the right thing.

Why 3 minutes target for blocks? Have you done network analysis to show that 3 minutes is the optimal time? Or did you just choose it because it felt right and 10 minutes felt too long? Have you analyzed how susceptible 3 minute blocks are to blockchain forking or double spend attacks?

If you really want others to believe in the SolidCoin hype, these are the questions you need to answer.

Still waiting for an answer...
Saying that you did not do the analysis and the simulation is a perfectly ok answer. People need to know if these decisions were made with solid (pun intended) data or was it just a stab in the dark.

And for those that claim that satoshi's 10 mins was also a stab in the dark... you are probably right. But satoshi released bitcoin with nothing like it at all. So he had nothing else to copy and make better. There's now 2 years of bitcoin network data that you can study. If CoinHunter did study the bitcoin network and figured that these numbers were optimal, then props to him. If not, then how is solidcoin much better than the other pump and dump coins like ixcoins and i0coins.
sr. member
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I believe that is what you want anyway though, as you want this crypto currency fork to fail so you can protect your invenstment in Bitcoin.
Oh, and you don't want to protect your invenstment in solidcoin?

Not really. I don't really have much invested in either of them. May the best or both win IMO. I just hate all the bashing that is going out at this way too early stage.
sr. member
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I see a single developer who has done more to improve on his blockchain in the last month than the entire core dev team has done on bitcoin in 6 months
Stopped reading
You sure haven't lurked enough in the dev forum Roll Eyes

Sorry, I meant to say that he has done more useful changes, or did Bitcoin get wallet encryption when I wasn't looking? Work on that has been going for how many months now? At least as far back as March, if I recall reading those threads correctly.

Also, the retargeting algo is a good idea. One of the easiest and (relatively) cheapest attacks on bitcoin would be to quietly buy a *lot* of coins over time and then sell them all, dropping the price to $1 or $2 and then holding it there for a month. A lot of miners would be forced to stop since many require fiat each month to pay their electric bills. Even losing 50% of the network hashrate would be devastating to bitcoin.

And dev forums? B-O-RING! Who has time to read about all that coding crap? Just looking at the titles gives most people a headache Tongue
Encryption? Yes Bitcoin has it for months, but you know, that's a feature that is in alpha stage, ie not fully tested, ie we can't fully rely on it. And this is the same you find in your beloved solidcoin
Retargeting algo idea? Already in i0coin, days before solidcoin was announced


You mean the horribly broken i0coin that most pool operators will not even touch anymore? I would like to see some proof of what you are saying about the re-targeting algo idea already being in i0coin days before Solidcoin was announced.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
I believe that is what you want anyway though, as you want this crypto currency fork to fail so you can protect your invenstment in Bitcoin.
Oh, and you don't want to protect your invenstment in solidcoin?
sr. member
Activity: 383
Merit: 250
Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.
Easy
1 block every 3 minutes instead of every 10 minutes -> you can multiply by 10/3 -> 2300 users
Five reasons to own solidcoins -> 11500 users

QED

2300... 23... 2+3=5...
FIVE reasons to own solidcoins...
S O L I D <-- FIVE letters...

O_O

SolidCoin is a Discordian plot, isn't it?  We've all been taken in by operation mindfuck.

Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.

This guy sure knows how to beat a dead horse.

I'm sorry, I guess I missed the part where he actually answered the damn question.  Are you really not at all concerned about the fact that the guy is lying through his teeth in his promotional materials?

Not really concerned at all. He has shown active development. He has his own domain with a nice looking and thought out web page. He is active on this forum and on the Solidcoin forum. He is active on IRC freenode #solidcoin. He is actively promoting goods and services and doing everything he can to promote Solidcoin so that it succeeds.  From talking to him on IRC and watching him for a few days, he does not appear to be doing this to scam people or get rich quick. He has even put up some of his own money.

He never stated he wrote a completely new Crypto currency. He stated he has seen via experience doing business with Bitcoin that it has shortcomings and that he wanted to come out with a possible (note possible) replacement that would benefit us all in the long run.

If it succeeds then fine, if it does not then fine. It will either sink or swim and time is the only variable now that will bring one of those scenarios to fruition.

What have you done lately other than try to pick what he is trying to accomplish apart at every chance you get?

Maybe he has not gotten every little thing correct in his exuberance while trying to promote Solidcoin. I don't really care. I have been watching what he has said here  and on IRC for days now and I believe he is trying to do the right thing.

He has also said there are more changes he wants to, and will be making to Solidcoin. You constantly harping at him here only takes his time away from the project. I believe that is what you want anyway though, as you want this crypto currency fork to fail so you can protect your invenstment in Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1257
May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
I see a single developer who has done more to improve on his blockchain in the last month than the entire core dev team has done on bitcoin in 6 months
Stopped reading
You sure haven't lurked enough in the dev forum Roll Eyes

Sorry, I meant to say that he has done more useful changes, or did Bitcoin get wallet encryption when I wasn't looking? Work on that has been going for how many months now? At least as far back as March, if I recall reading those threads correctly.

Also, the retargeting algo is a good idea. One of the easiest and (relatively) cheapest attacks on bitcoin would be to quietly buy a *lot* of coins over time and then sell them all, dropping the price to $1 or $2 and then holding it there for a month. A lot of miners would be forced to stop since many require fiat each month to pay their electric bills. Even losing 50% of the network hashrate would be devastating to bitcoin.

And dev forums? B-O-RING! Who has time to read about all that coding crap? Just looking at the titles gives most people a headache Tongue
Encryption? Yes Bitcoin has it for months, but you know, that's a feature that is in alpha stage, ie not fully tested, ie we can't fully rely on it. And this is the same you find in your beloved solidcoin
Retargeting algo idea? Already in i0coin, days before solidcoin was announced
full member
Activity: 153
Merit: 100
I see a single developer who has done more to improve on his blockchain in the last month than the entire core dev team has done on bitcoin in 6 months
Stopped reading
You sure haven't lurked enough in the dev forum Roll Eyes

Sorry, I meant to say that he has done more useful changes, or did Bitcoin get wallet encryption when I wasn't looking? Work on that has been going for how many months now? At least as far back as March, if I recall reading those threads correctly.

Also, the retargeting algo is a good idea. One of the easiest and (relatively) cheapest attacks on bitcoin would be to quietly buy a *lot* of coins over time and then sell them all, dropping the price to $1 or $2 and then holding it there for a month. A lot of miners would be forced to stop since many require fiat each month to pay their electric bills. Even losing 50% of the network hashrate would be devastating to bitcoin.

And dev forums? B-O-RING! Who has time to read about all that coding crap? Just looking at the titles gives most people a headache Tongue

sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 251
Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.
Easy
1 block every 3 minutes instead of every 10 minutes -> you can multiply by 10/3 -> 2300 users
Five reasons to own solidcoins -> 11500 users

QED

2300... 23... 2+3=5...
FIVE reasons to own solidcoins...
S O L I D <-- FIVE letters...

O_O

SolidCoin is a Discordian plot, isn't it?  We've all been taken in by operation mindfuck.

Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.

This guy sure knows how to beat a dead horse.

I'm sorry, I guess I missed the part where he actually answered the damn question.  Are you really not at all concerned about the fact that the guy is lying through his teeth in his promotional materials?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Remind me again, how many people own solidcoins?
There are 701 users on the bitparking exchange with a balance of solidcoins greater than zero. It doesn't give an indication of actual users since they'll be people who don't use the exchange, and people who have withdrawn their solidcoins so the exchange doesn't hold it, but it may help gauge the size.

Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.

This guy sure knows how to beat a dead horse.

You would think a guy trying to solicit business would be more professional.
sr. member
Activity: 383
Merit: 250
Remind me again, how many people own solidcoins?
There are 701 users on the bitparking exchange with a balance of solidcoins greater than zero. It doesn't give an indication of actual users since they'll be people who don't use the exchange, and people who have withdrawn their solidcoins so the exchange doesn't hold it, but it may help gauge the size.

Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.

This guy sure knows how to beat a dead horse.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1257
May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
Remind me again, how many people own solidcoins?
There are 701 users on the bitparking exchange with a balance of solidcoins greater than zero. It doesn't give an indication of actual users since they'll be people who don't use the exchange, and people who have withdrawn their solidcoins so the exchange doesn't hold it, but it may help gauge the size.

Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.
Easy
1 block every 3 minutes instead of every 10 minutes -> you can multiply by 10/3 -> 2300 users
Five reasons to own solidcoins -> 11500 users

QED
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 251
Remind me again, how many people own solidcoins?
There are 701 users on the bitparking exchange with a balance of solidcoins greater than zero. It doesn't give an indication of actual users since they'll be people who don't use the exchange, and people who have withdrawn their solidcoins so the exchange doesn't hold it, but it may help gauge the size.

Falls a bit short of CoinHunter's claim that "10,000 people own solidcoins".  I'd really like to know how he extrapolated the other 9,299, but he seems reluctant to say.
hero member
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cryptoshark
Hmm thats a lot.

I think in 2-3 months it will be much more, solidcoin will never die.

Many collectors will keep coins for months.
legendary
Activity: 1078
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Remind me again, how many people own solidcoins?
There are 701 users on the bitparking exchange with a balance of solidcoins greater than zero. It doesn't give an indication of actual users since they'll be people who don't use the exchange, and people who have withdrawn their solidcoins so the exchange doesn't hold it, but it may help gauge the size.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 251
Hey, I'm just taking your arguments to their logical conclusions.  "Users want fast confirmations", and I0coin has the fastest confirmations, so that means I0coin is the best network.  Soon everyone will join it.

I think you have a higher post count in this thread than me. Thanks for your SolidCoin support. Smiley

Really?  Better check your math.  You've been in damage-control mode since I started posting here, and you can't seem to resist replying to nearly every one of my posts.  Makes sense though.  Your claims about SolidCoin don't stand up to scrutiny, so you have to put a lot of effort into spin-doctoring in order to reassure your suckers investors.

Remind me again, how many people own solidcoins?
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