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Topic: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB - page 11. (Read 251998 times)

sr. member
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June 10, 2013, 08:55:04 AM
Because as the release notes say, and numerous other forum posts, you no longer use -S

Thanks, working beautifully now!
legendary
Activity: 1112
Merit: 1000
June 10, 2013, 03:42:15 AM
I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!

Actually as I do have such an equivalent order (Batch #2.1, Batch #2.2 and Batch #3) at Avalon, I can tell you that even though these were paid for in February, we still have not received any update on when they will ship out (they were supposed to be delivered in April).

In the mean time, AM blade orders have been delivered 10 days after payment and these are out there, generating BTC.

Our Avalon orders in the mean time have caused nothing but uncertainty and stress. By the time we'll get them, difficulty will have risen by all the AM devices shipped and ROI will take ages.

Guess where I would have preferred to place my BTC now?
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
June 09, 2013, 10:56:55 PM
Yes, to bypass one layer between cgminer and the device, and give us more control over it. It has allowed us to shave a lot of CPU off by doing so. It is unfortunately a lot more work, and keeps revealing to us interesting hardware limitations that the drivers paper over, but that is often the case that the better solution takes more effort.
Has anyone gotten this to work with the Anker USB 3.0 10-port hub?  I tried it with cgminer 3.2.1, and it crashed shortly after starting.
Does not currently work off USB3 ports on cgminer 3.2+. We are investigating.
legendary
Activity: 1554
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June 09, 2013, 10:55:33 PM
Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

Fun.

i bought some so i don't feel silly wearing this t-shirt: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-2924-grilled-cat-identity-silkscreened-t-shirts-10sh-230843

 Grin
newbie
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June 09, 2013, 10:37:36 PM
Yes, to bypass one layer between cgminer and the device, and give us more control over it. It has allowed us to shave a lot of CPU off by doing so. It is unfortunately a lot more work, and keeps revealing to us interesting hardware limitations that the drivers paper over, but that is often the case that the better solution takes more effort.
Has anyone gotten this to work with the Anker USB 3.0 10-port hub?  I tried it with cgminer 3.2.1, and it crashed shortly after starting.
erk
hero member
Activity: 826
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June 09, 2013, 10:24:06 PM
Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that's, right 4,000 x .3GH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!



That would be a valid argument if BFL was shipping on demand.  To have a product in hand ASAP is appealing.
Be thankful that they are finally shipping some units in volume!
hero member
Activity: 752
Merit: 500
June 09, 2013, 10:12:24 PM
Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that's, right 4,000 x .3GH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!



That would be a valid argument if BFL was shipping on demand.  To have a product in hand ASAP is appealing.
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
June 09, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
Try using CGminer 3.2.1.
This threads got a good amount of information that could help you too.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/usb-asic-erupter-setup-config-bcg-miner-cgminer-hubs-oh-pi-220905

Yeah, I get this error when I try to run in cgminer 3.2 or 3.2.1:

cgminer: -S: unrecognized option

I built using --enable-icarus
Because as the release notes say, and numerous other forum posts, you no longer use -S
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
June 09, 2013, 09:16:20 PM
Try using CGminer 3.2.1.
This threads got a good amount of information that could help you too.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/usb-asic-erupter-setup-config-bcg-miner-cgminer-hubs-oh-pi-220905

Yeah, I get this error when I try to run in cgminer 3.2 or 3.2.1:

cgminer: -S: unrecognized option

I built using --enable-icarus
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
June 09, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
what pool is everyone using with this?

getting high rejects (~10%) on eligius using cgminer 3.1.1.....

like this:

ICA 1:                | 330.0M/331.5Mh/s | A:12016 R:1202 HW:238 U: 3.78/m
Try using CGminer 3.2.1.
This threads got a good amount of information that could help you too.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/usb-asic-erupter-setup-config-bcg-miner-cgminer-hubs-oh-pi-220905
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
June 09, 2013, 09:07:31 PM
what pool is everyone using with this?

getting high rejects (~10%) on eligius using cgminer 3.1.1.....

like this:

ICA 1:                | 330.0M/331.5Mh/s | A:12016 R:1202 HW:238 U: 3.78/m
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
June 09, 2013, 07:34:26 PM
Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

Fun.
yxt
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
June 09, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
sure sure... they ship 400 a week.... in 14 days... go and tell that to the Marines!
erk
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
June 09, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
From BFL? *lol* ask the guys preorders @ BFL liars a year ago

At least they are now receiving superior value product than Block Erupters that will actually give them a positive ROI.

BFL in a day shipped more of their entry level 5 GH/s units, with a total hashing power than the entire 4,000 Block Erupters can do combined.
yxt
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
June 09, 2013, 07:02:17 PM
From BFL? *lol* ask the guys preorders @ BFL liars a year ago
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Supersonic
June 09, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that right 4,000 x .3MH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!




Captain Hindsight to the rescue - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqkI691dxNg
erk
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
June 09, 2013, 06:40:23 PM
Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that's, right 4,000 x .3GH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!


hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
June 09, 2013, 06:28:51 PM
Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
BTC --> ??? --> PROFIT
June 09, 2013, 04:20:03 PM
It is a shame these are not a little cheaper, If I could get a ROI in 3 months I would do it in a heartbeat, 6 months and I would consider it.

If my calcs are correct these things currently will generate 0.01BTC per day, so 199 days for payback excl power/hubs/hosts/group buy fees/difficulty rises.
full member
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June 09, 2013, 09:08:51 AM
Alright thanks...I think I'm only getting 2 anyways
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