Topic: Announcement: Tradehill is back - page 3. (Read 11189 times)

How long is the wait time for responses from [email protected]?

Ok so finally I received my bitcoins back from Tradehill today!!!!!

I don't know if I ever would have gotten them if they hadn't reopened tradehill, but I'm grateful I got them finally!!

WHOOOO HOOOO!!!!   I thought that money was lost forever....

Fuckwit, learn to read. Then learn to comprehend what you've read.


Plenty my ass. There was me, April 17th (and in case anyone wonders how the kraken meme got started...).


Right-o. Except MPEx doesn't trade in fiat. How about we think more, this "competitor" angle has been done to death already.


If they make a stink they'll get repaid. Maybe. Somewhat. Otherwise they've just contributed to Bitcoin's Scammer Beer Fund.

What about the people to whom Tradehill still owe BTC?

I think it's possible that the PR person for "Mircea Popescu's Options Emporium" might consider Tradehill a potential competitor. Perhaps MPOE was hoping to start offering a similar set of services.

I have personally spoken to Jered many times, by email, over the phone, and via other channels, and he's in a very short list of bitcoin businesspeople I trust. Michael Hendrix is also on that list, and . . . that is it. They both have the unique distinction of having run a big bitcoin business, handling lots of money, and then closing it down without an implosion. Very very few have done that.

I'm glad you're admitting you troll, that is the first step towards getting some kind of help. (Maybe.)

As for not calling out Pirate - There were plenty in that particular dogpile of a financial scam saying that he was a fraud. I steered clear because I knew it was too good to be true.

As for Tradehill - I know what their service is, and what it has done for me. I don't need your particular flavor of creative history to make that determination.

If you don't like them, fine - go back to playing Satoshi Dice with the rest of the muppets.

So Jered finally responded to my emails yesterday THANK GOD!!!!!

He said he is transferring my remaining balance today, so hopefully I will finally have my bitcoins back!!! whoo hoo

A bit crazy that it's taken almost a year, but I'm thankful that it's happening at all.

I'll let everyone know if/when they come through!

For one, I have no idea where you get off with the "come lately" and "troll" bullshit, but you need to check yourself. I don't recall you having said anything useful at any point, of which a good example would be calling out the pirate scam (which, incidentally, a bunch of "come earlies" were supporting like it was their family, and which incidentally I called, nobody else).

For the other, just because they stole from the unknowns and paid out their friends (same model as Hash King, Amazingrando etc) and generally influential people does NOT make them legitimate. It makes them the exact opposite of legitimate, and for that matter this is a wide open scam model (collect money from everyone, pay out the big dogs, walk away). Participating in something like that is not only immoral, not only very damaging to Bitcoin, but moreover I hope will land you in jail, which is where this sort of crap belongs.

For that matter, Jared has to come up with the results of his alleged dwolla lawsuit which magically disappeared, not with more schmoozing.

I don't think this can be said enough times: associating with scammers will fuck you over. It has happened a million times on this forum already, it never seems like it's going to be the case this time, bla bla bla. It always is the case. Just don't.

I have been posting on this forum since July last year about how I have not received my funds from them.

I have emailed them countless times.  I even called the cell phone number of Jered listed on these forums last year.  NO RESPONSE whatsoever!

I have emailed them again since the claim address became available and have had no response. 

Last week I did finally call the phone number on their website and spoke to the CTO and he said to give them a few days and he emailed them for me, so I am still waiting. 

I will call them again tomorrow.  This has been an awful experience!!!!!!!

I don't get the johnny-come-lately trolls coming out to slander Tradehill.

I used them before they closed down, and I never had any problems. If it were a scam, I would've been hit on the trades I made.

That never happened. As for allegations about running away with funds, dogs and cats sleeping together and other rantings -- my experience doesn't mirror this creative fiction.

Glad you guys are back.

Showing a statement "incorrect" by ignoring its context is gamesmanship. If have a hard time believing that you honestly understand that statement to be contradicted by a failure to do the impossible.

The only problem with this narrative is that there is nobody claiming that Jared ran off with significant amounts of their money. Unless I'm forgetting something, there were only two people who made that claim, both for very small amounts (both less than $1,000), and neither claim seemed credible.

Also, I'm curious why you think Tradehill is misrepresenting the Dwolla situation. My understanding was that it was pretty clear -- Dwolla specifically promised no chargebacks, but then Dwolla made payments disappear. Tradehill is not the only company claiming this. And they didn't use it to take other people's money, only to wind down their business -- something they could have done for no reason. Perhaps they exaggerated the problem so that they could try to get more money out of Dwolla (or more sympathy out of the community?), but even assuming that's true, I don't see why any Bitcoin people should particularly care. Dwolla was the company that built themselves on Bitcoin and then turned their back.

Moreover, my recollection was that none of this was controversial at the time. I had no idea there was another version of these events going around.

No they did not. For that matter they are to this day one of the largest scams in BTC.

That people from the mostly irrelevant foundation thingie are promoting them is concerning, but only if you subscribe to the minority view that the thing carries any weight or importance. Much like the foundation's involvement in the Bitcoin Magazine theft/conversion thing, much like their appaling accounting practices on the donations collected (which apparently are chiefly used for the purpose of floating old boy's Vessenes' otherwise hopeless "business" with some emergency BTC capital), this recent propping of one of Bitcoin's largest scams/more notorious scammer's return simply serves to ruin their already tenuous reputations.

To be perfectly clear: Jared Kenna lied about Dwolla, ran off with a lot of money, used that money to build some real estate development (in partnership with a different set of scammers, the Jonathan Ryan Owens, Alberto Armandi, Meni Rosenfeld troop), is now back like any scammer ever trying to dig himself out of the hole with incredible cheek and pennies on the Bitcoin.

This won't wash, incidentally. Not only is using Tradehill plain immoral at this point, but you can be sure that as far as it can be helped any mark they ever come across with this more recent scam of theirs will be properly warned.

On a more general note: stop trying to scam the angel/va circuit with magical Bitcoin, all of you. It gives us a bad name in general, it won't work for you in particular. It's just NOT how success is done.

What's next for Chrissakes, "our good friend with blood sweat and tears Tom" returning from the dead? What's that scheduled for, January 2014?

I'm not faulting anyone.  Just pointing how the statement "TradeHill paid back every single one of their account holders when they shut down." was incorrect. 

We're seriously faulting Tradehill for not paying back people who didn't contact them to make payment arrangements? What were they supposed to do, enclose dollars in an email?

No they didn't.  Read the OP.

Huh?

TradeHill paid back every single one of their account holders when they shut down.

Glad to see you back. I might take a look at your services.

Thx Joel.  To bad Tradehill didn't see fit to provide that link.  At least that I noticed.  I suppose this is why Coinlab is also fairly mute to most mortals as well and why I continue to be directed to Mt. Gox in spite of my distinctly North American IP.

I didn't factor in the appreciation of my BTC hoard when I did the accredited investor calcs, and earning as little money in 2013 as possible is very much by design.  I probably am a little butt-hurt about not making the cut I suppose, but I was always luke-warm about cashing out through highly monitored channels anyway.  If my financial trail becomes harder for 'them' to track they'll have their own actions to blame I guess.  And whatever pangs of nefariousness I might feel in various financial activities will be greatly diminished in my mind.

BTW, anyone who wants to do an in-person deal for 5-fig (equiv in cash, gold, silver, ammo, interesting machinery, etc) at around $150/BTC lemme know.  I'll be selling a pinch of BTC around there by my current plan.

No. All the equity owners must be accredited investors, the business must be an investment company, or assets have to exceed $5 million. Here's a link to the rules: http://www.sec.gov/answers/accred.htm