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legendary
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March 18, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
#52
A couple of questions.  You're talking about offering a "product" to "accredited investors".  Does this mean you're adopting the stance that Bitcoin is a security?

Also, it might be worth outlining here the process customers will need to go through to verify that they meet the "accredited investor" criteria.

As USD MtGox codes can't be generated after April, will you be accepting MtGox codes for other currencies as long as their value is over USD 5,000?
This is the criteria to meet:
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1. a bank, insurance company, registered investment company, business development company, or small business investment company;

2. an employee benefit plan, within the meaning of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, if a bank, insurance company, or registered investment adviser makes the investment decisions, or if the plan has total assets in excess of $5 million;

3. a charitable organization, corporation, or partnership with assets exceeding $5 million;

4. a director, executive officer, or general partner of the company selling the securities;

5. a business in which all the equity owners are accredited investors;

6. a natural person who has individual net worth, or joint net worth with the person’s spouse, that exceeds $1 million at the time of the purchase, excluding the value of the primary residence of such person;

7. a natural person with income exceeding $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with a spouse exceeding $300,000 for those years and a reasonable expectation of the same income level in the current year; or

8. a trust with assets in excess of $5 million, not formed to acquire the securities offered, whose purchases a sophisticated person makes.

Basically, only open to rich people?
hero member
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March 18, 2013, 06:07:08 PM
#51
A couple of questions.  You're talking about offering a "product" to "accredited investors".  Does this mean you're adopting the stance that Bitcoin is a security?

Also, it might be worth outlining here the process customers will need to go through to verify that they meet the "accredited investor" criteria.

As USD MtGox codes can't be generated after April, will you be accepting MtGox codes for other currencies as long as their value is over USD 5,000?
hero member
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March 18, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
#50
What about bitcoin.com? Is it still part of your business plan?
sr. member
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March 18, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
#49
Can't find any info on the public API. Do you guys have one already?
legendary
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Bitcoin
March 18, 2013, 05:43:10 PM
#48
Dude, so awesome! welcome back TH!  Grin
sr. member
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March 18, 2013, 04:50:09 PM
#47

Businesses and accredited investors can apply to join Prime starting today.
After the user's identity is verified, every client will receive a $75 credit to
test trading. Clients will be invited to fully activate their account with a
deposit of at least $10,000 USD, 200 bitcoins, or $5,000 in Mt. Gox codes.


I was a member of the original Tradehill and did most of my trading there until you closed.  It looks like you are not working with smaller accounts at this time, am I reading this correctly?

We're going to offer additional products for smaller accounts soon. There are a few reasons that we're doing it this way.
I very clearly remember working with you and I'm excited to do it again as soon as we can offer it.



March 18, 2013

San Francisco, CA - Tradehill, the first American Bitcoin Exchange, relaunched
today.

...

It's a pleasant surprise to see you guys back!

I have to take exception in two ways to this statement.  My understanding was that ~weex's thing was the first American exchange.  Also, I signed up for Tradehill-I back in the day because I thought it was Chilean.

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For newer readers:  When Tradehill shut down I had somewhere in the $1500 range USD in my account...waiting for a drop under $2/BTC which never came...yet.  Tradehill dutifully cut me a check in a timely manner with no fuss and no BS about needing to send additional documentation.  I decided that if the opportunity came along again I would do business with them, and am delighted that I may be able to do so.



There is a little bit of confusion regarding who was the first US exchange. I had the idea to start Tradehill when I was living in Chile (I'm a US citizen). I started it with two other US citizens and one Chilean.
One of the other guys was living in the US at the time, one was mostly in Chile but traveling between the two countries. Shortly after we went live I moved back to the US. The company was formed in the US as well.
I hope that clarifies it a little. It's somewhere in between but more US. I did have the honor of explaining Bitcoin to the Chilean version of the IRS though.

Jered

legendary
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March 18, 2013, 03:42:20 PM
#46

March 18, 2013

San Francisco, CA - Tradehill, the first American Bitcoin Exchange, relaunched
today.

...

It's a pleasant surprise to see you guys back!

I have to take exception in two ways to this statement.  My understanding was that ~weex's thing was the first American exchange.  Also, I signed up for Tradehill-I back in the day because I thought it was Chilean.

---

For newer readers:  When Tradehill shut down I had somewhere in the $1500 range USD in my account...waiting for a drop under $2/BTC which never came...yet.  Tradehill dutifully cut me a check in a timely manner with no fuss and no BS about needing to send additional documentation.  I decided that if the opportunity came along again I would do business with them, and am delighted that I may be able to do so.

legendary
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March 18, 2013, 03:39:28 PM
#45

Businesses and accredited investors can apply to join Prime starting today.
After the user's identity is verified, every client will receive a $75 credit to
test trading. Clients will be invited to fully activate their account with a
deposit of at least $10,000 USD, 200 bitcoins, or $5,000 in Mt. Gox codes.


I was a member of the original Tradehill and did most of my trading there until you closed.  It looks like you are not working with smaller accounts at this time, am I reading this correctly?
sr. member
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March 18, 2013, 03:33:21 PM
#44
Jared,

you had a great exchange and I am glad you are back BUT I still need access to my old bitcoin address at the old tradehill...
I am User 472 on the bitcoin pyramid wich was a tradehill acount address... ( I stupidly used you as a wallet )
User 472 is the top earner at that site and you are still getting the cashing and are spending it... Can I please have it back?
I was kbroadfoot there and the address was 1JLqki98QMmP9kcv9CAuaJ8XMg4LSuNXf1

Can I have THAT particular address back for you new relaunch at least? The pyramid will not let me change payout addresses.

Thanks in Advance...

( My mom also had the same situation at obroadfoot ) please help us both...



Shoot me an email at [email protected]
This is going to take a lot longer to look in to.

Also I have the old keys in cold storage and it looks like someone is  pulling the coins out of your address.
That  isn't me so you might have the wrong address listed here.

Regards,
Jered
legendary
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Bass Player
March 18, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
#43
Jared,

you had a great exchange and I am glad you are back BUT I still need access to my old bitcoin address at the old tradehill...
I am User 472 on the bitcoin pyramid wich was a tradehill acount address... ( I stupidly used you as a wallet )
User 472 is the top earner at that site and you are still getting the cashing and are spending it... Can I please have it back?
I was kbroadfoot there and the address was 1JLqki98QMmP9kcv9CAuaJ8XMg4LSuNXf1

Can I have THAT particular address back for you new relaunch at least? The pyramid will not let me change payout addresses.

Thanks in Advance...

( My mom also had the same situation at obroadfoot ) please help us both...

sr. member
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March 18, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
#42
Oh man, I missed you guys. Tradehill was always my preferred exchange, and my trust for Jered went WAY up when they closed down and refunded ALL the money. No way Mtgox could do that, IMHO.

Welcome back!

Are you guys going to be at the bitcoin conference in May?



Thanks, I enjoyed our conversations in the early days before the real world got interested in Bitcoin. Glad to be back as well.\
We plan on being there in May.



What is your definintion of an "accredited investor"?  I am familiar with the SEC's definition, but it seems really restrictive for the bitcoin crowd, SEC definition copied below:

1. a bank, insurance company, registered investment company, business development company, or small business investment company;

2. an employee benefit plan, within the meaning of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, if a bank, insurance company, or registered investment adviser makes the investment decisions, or if the plan has total assets in excess of $5 million;

3. a charitable organization, corporation, or partnership with assets exceeding $5 million;

4. a director, executive officer, or general partner of the company selling the securities;

5. a business in which all the equity owners are accredited investors;

6. a natural person who has individual net worth, or joint net worth with the person’s spouse, that exceeds $1 million at the time of the purchase, excluding the value of the primary residence of such person;

7. a natural person with income exceeding $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with a spouse exceeding $300,000 for those years and a reasonable expectation of the same income level in the current year; or

8. a trust with assets in excess of $5 million, not formed to acquire the securities offered, whose purchases a sophisticated person makes.


We're going with the SEC's definition.
The short answer is "the lawyers told us to".

Welcome back Jered! Dealing with your exchange was always pleasant.

Can you elaborate a little on what your goals are with Prime? B2B is a little vague, as many small businesses have less BTC traffic than a hobbyist daytrader.



Prime isn't really aimed at the small volume traders, the goal is to provide the best experience possible for the biggest users of Bitcoin.
We're going to release other products that everyone can use soon. This is our starting point.

For small business use I'm a huge fan of Bitpay and use them myself. That's not something we plan on competing with, they do a great job.


Jered

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March 18, 2013, 03:02:50 PM
#41
This is great! Congrats Jered!
newbie
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March 18, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
#40
Welcome back Jered! Dealing with your exchange was always pleasant.

Can you elaborate a little on what your goals are with Prime? B2B is a little vague, as many small businesses have less BTC traffic than a hobbyist daytrader.

full member
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March 18, 2013, 02:28:24 PM
#39
What is your definintion of an "accredited investor"?  I am familiar with the SEC's definition, but it seems really restrictive for the bitcoin crowd, SEC definition copied below:

1. a bank, insurance company, registered investment company, business development company, or small business investment company;

2. an employee benefit plan, within the meaning of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, if a bank, insurance company, or registered investment adviser makes the investment decisions, or if the plan has total assets in excess of $5 million;

3. a charitable organization, corporation, or partnership with assets exceeding $5 million;

4. a director, executive officer, or general partner of the company selling the securities;

5. a business in which all the equity owners are accredited investors;

6. a natural person who has individual net worth, or joint net worth with the person’s spouse, that exceeds $1 million at the time of the purchase, excluding the value of the primary residence of such person;

7. a natural person with income exceeding $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with a spouse exceeding $300,000 for those years and a reasonable expectation of the same income level in the current year; or

8. a trust with assets in excess of $5 million, not formed to acquire the securities offered, whose purchases a sophisticated person makes.
legendary
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Rational Exuberance
March 18, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
#38
Oh man, I missed you guys. Tradehill was always my preferred exchange, and my trust for Jered went WAY up when they closed down and refunded ALL the money. No way Mtgox could do that, IMHO.

Welcome back!

Are you guys going to be at the bitcoin conference in May?



legendary
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March 18, 2013, 02:01:39 PM
#37
We would like to. ACH is so reversible that it's understandable why no one in Bitcoin wants to use it.
I believe Coinbase offers it successfully.
The only problem is they can only do pulls, not pushes (I think it would require additional licensing in order to accept push deposits).

The day that I can have my paychecks directly deposited in to a trading account is the day that I will close my bank account. Literally the only reason I have one now is to accept my paychecks and hold on to them until the Coinbase pull comes through. It would be great to skip the middleman.
sr. member
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March 18, 2013, 01:56:15 PM
#36
Welcome back!  I didn't see it posted yet, but were account balances/history from pre-shutdown saved?  Ie, could I get my account history from before the shutdown?  Should I send an email to the same address that is used for receiving balances?

Currently the old Tradehill is focused solely on paying out to customers who make claims. If I can bring up more functionality in the future I'll make an announcement.


Provided you have reimbursed everybody in BTC and US$, welcome back.

I'm sure there are some stragglers that haven't inquired and I welcome them to shoot me an email at [email protected]
I'm responding to all emails and would like to get old Tradehill completely closed so I can focus entirely on Tradehill 2.0

Jered

newbie
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March 18, 2013, 01:49:45 PM
#35
Welcome back!  I didn't see it posted yet, but were account balances/history from pre-shutdown saved?  Ie, could I get my account history from before the shutdown?  Should I send an email to the same address that is used for receiving balances?
donator
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March 18, 2013, 01:39:32 PM
#34
Provided you have reimbursed everybody in BTC and US$, welcome back.
legendary
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March 18, 2013, 01:37:05 PM
#33
Welcome back!

Glad to see you guys back in the game. Tradehill was an early island of professionalism at a time when most bitcoin business were, shall we say, lacking. Glad to have Jered back in the community.

FWIW, I had both $ and BTC in Tradehill when they shutdown. I exchanged some emails with Tradehill/Jered a month or two later, and was fully compensated.

Looking forward to the new platform. Sounds like you guys have some interesting plans for it.

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