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Topic: [ANN][PYC] Paycoin - Going to be hard forked soon! - page 10. (Read 90817 times)

legendary
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At least the money going into rig rentals is crazy for this coin, just by looking at nicehash prices increased by 600% and people have single rentals running there with 10-15 btc !
hero member
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"First Use Anywhere Date2014-11-04"

http://trademarks.justia.com/864/44/paycoin-86444905.html

The trademark is fraudulently applied, therefor is invalid upon contest or objection, and will not go through if done so. This thread is just proof that the name has been around and first used a year ago. Garza exposed he has multiple shill accounts made by himself, that he's a complete liar and a complete fraud. Have a fun time being a fraud that's exposed, Homero.
legendary
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Fuck you Homero!
legendary
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https://bpip.org
We are successful because more and more people trust us each day, and we honor that trust.  This creates even more customers. No matter how much you try, we are not going away. We are going to prove our values with actions in reply life. So Come back with some actual facts, is stop spreading FUD. It reflects badly on the entire industry.

It's a fairly good impersonation but not the real CEO. Only made one spelling mistake and is still refusing to post from the real account.

Are any of you paying any attention?  Suchmoon already gave you all the information you needed but none of you put it together.  That entire posted conversation was with a troll.  Josh's actual account is "GAW Miners_CEO"  Even after Josh actually posted here, you still didn't figure it out.


It certainly looked that way at the time, but now that Vlad posted those screenshots it looks like "gawceo" might be a valid account. I'm still confused as to why "GAW Miners_CEO" doesn't just state - yes, that is my account, or no, it isn't. How could he possibly benefit from this confusion?
sr. member
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PYC person asked from GAW $2milion for the coin with market cap $20k... He saying that he has such strong team, that this 20k will be (here goes miracle) worth 2kk in a year.

He didnt asked: hey GAW, do you need our dev skills in you project
He didnt asked; hey GAW, can you compensate to current PYC coin holders $20k market cap
He just demanded 2 million for dead coin.... funny man  Grin
sr. member
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Bravo Vlad2Vlad!!!!
I can not wait for this to end.
It seems like Garza is falling real fast.
Hey Garza, KARMA IS A BITCH FOOL.

Get lost sockpuppet, CEO wannabe. Great trust rating by the way Wink

So amazing with all these new accounts, and they find this thread 1st.. Just saying..

Better a new account than a fake one, just saying...
newbie
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just fud nothing more - as said before by known members - someone is trying to jump on a train by using ridicoulos arguments

vlad nice try but dont waste your time - or if you dont wanna waste your time anymore learn how justitia is going

http://trademarks.justia.com/864/44/paycoin-86444905.html

i know clearly why i get rid of this forum - it is barely not worth a try to post here with all that fud and trying to overwhelm new people

Exactly the same feelings here. The community here is getting worse every day. It has been decreased to a bunch of rotten childish fraudsters and wannabes.

XPY will get the paycoin trademark.

I guess no one was really interested in discussing it to begin with, just accusing me of being Josh and deflecting things away from the facts.  If the original developer did not file for a trademark and Vlad cannot prove that he has the legal standing to even challenge GAW's trademark application, then it's a done deal.  The trademark will go to GAW.  Unless there is some sort of formal company or organization behind PYC (which I can't really tell because the original website now looks like a poorly coded faucet  Cheesy), the only one with legal standing to obtain a trademark would be the original developer.

Still curious as to why Josh said he bought the rights to the name.  Wonder if the developer sold out?  Make a bit of cash off a dead coin.  Why not?
sr. member
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just fud nothing more - as said before by known members - someone is trying to jump on a train by using ridicoulos arguments

vlad nice try but dont waste your time - or if you dont wanna waste your time anymore learn how justitia is going

http://trademarks.justia.com/864/44/paycoin-86444905.html

i know clearly why i get rid of this forum - it is barely not worth a try to post here with all that fud and trying to overwhelm new people

Exactly the same feelings here. The community here is getting worse every day. It has been decreased to a bunch of rotten childish fraudsters and wannabes.

XPY will get the paycoin trademark.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
would you like to take on sovereign?



https://github.com/raskul/SOV

Sovereign is not for sale, SOV is a free cryptocurrency and you may amend the code in a community rights release.
this is the same for all Cryptocurrencies.

Can this be said about garza coin? pxy or whatever its called..
bad or good it's how it is and there's nothin ye can do aboot it. add a node and I suppose it could make you feel like you iown it but that's about the oly gratitude you get out of it
newbie
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So amazing with all these new accounts, and they find this thread 1st.. Just saying..

pretty sure that has to do with the fact it was posted on hashtraders or whatever and people flocked over here from there.

Also going by that post on tm laws the original paycoin never achieved  that secondary descriptive meaning or whatever while pretty sure new paycoin will have? nfi how the laws work just curious.

TBH was a pretty confusing and stupid move to make a coin the same name as one that exists. I get the feeling its game over for original pyc cause like others have said, whoever has the most lawyers wins
newbie
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So amazing with all these new accounts, and they find this thread 1st.. Just saying..

Since everyone thinks I'm either Josh or a GAW shill, let me share something about XPY that is bothering me.  I've been following this situation for months despite my lack of posts.  Allow me to play devil's advocate (from your point of view.)

This entire dispute over the naming of the coin shouldn't be happening, according to prior statements by Josh.

http://gawminers.eu/news/hashcoin-ico-customer-round-qa-transcript-yesterday-evening/

"“HashCoin” is the code name for the coin, not the actual name that it will bear. We purchased the rights to the most popular name an online currency could ever have. That deal finished today."

This interviewer also had the impression that Josh had already purchased the rights to the name (unrevealed at the time of the interview)

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/hashcoin-hashbase-will-bring-bitcoin-mainstream-interview-with-gawminers-josh-garza/


So unless the original developer of PYC sold the rights to him, I am at a loss to explain how we have arrived at this situation.

I am trying to be neutral here.  My first post in this thread was prompted by what I thought was a very dedicated troll that I found amusing.  Perhaps my initial assessment was wrong.  I don't know.  But I certainly have no agenda beyond that.
sr. member
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CEO FlawMiners TM®
would you like to take on sovereign?



https://github.com/raskul/SOV

Sovereign is not for sale, SOV is a free cryptocurrency and you may amend the code in a community rights release.
this is the same for all Cryptocurrencies.

Can this be said about garza coin? pxy or whatever its called..
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
CEO FlawMiners TM®
So amazing with all these new accounts, and they find this thread 1st.. Just saying..
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
would you like to take on sovereign?



https://github.com/raskul/SOV

Sovereign is not for sale, SOV is a free cryptocurrency and you may amend the code in a community rights release.
this is the same for all Cryptocurrencies.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
We are successful because more and more people trust us each day, and we honor that trust.  This creates even more customers. No matter how much you try, we are not going away. We are going to prove our values with actions in reply life. So Come back with some actual facts, is stop spreading FUD. It reflects badly on the entire industry.

It's a fairly good impersonation but not the real CEO. Only made one spelling mistake and is still refusing to post from the real account.

Are any of you paying any attention?  Suchmoon already gave you all the information you needed but none of you put it together.  That entire posted conversation was with a troll.  Josh's actual account is "GAW Miners_CEO"  Even after Josh actually posted here, you still didn't figure it out.

Fail, fail, fail.  All of you.  Except Suchmoon.  Who happens to be the only person I respect in the actual GAW thread.  Bravo, sir.

And to you, fake gawceo.  Epic trolling.  I applaud you sir.  Worthy of legend.  It is not every day that you see a troll take his craft so seriously and really push the envelope.

And to you Vlad - get over yourself.  You have nothing.  This "community" was dead and would still be dead if XPY had not come along.  Even half of this PYC thread is now about GAW, so they've taken that from you too.  This thread is nothing more than a subthread to the other GAW thread, which is where half the people who have recently appeared on this thread have come from.  Any court of law, if you were to actually make it that far, would quickly come to the conclusion that PYC was abandoned long ago and award the trademark to GAW.  You wanna poke fun at XPY and laugh that their coin got stuck for a day?  You can't even compile your fork, by your own admission.  Regardless of your opinion of GAW/XPY they have a living coin and an actual community.

Your coin is just like your conversation with the troll - much ado about nothing.


bold statement true for both parties, you just don't realise it'll hit when it'll hit.
thanks for helping https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9849580

Well I was looking at the paycoin trademark from a purely legal standpoint.  PYC is obviously dead despite Vlad's attempt at necromancy and a few of the GAW haters hopping on the blockchain.  Whatever you think the ultimate fate of XPY is, they currently have something that's alive and used by more than a couple people with an axe to grind, and until it ends up like PYC I don't believe a judge would rule in favor of PYC due to abandonment.  And if it does go down in flames, then no one will really care.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
There is no common sense to use, it is all about Trademark law...

https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm

as mentioned, one may still object.  as is the case here. i have ~eu domains, but if i move away from the EU i would lose entitlement to them.

.com would go to the american
newbie
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There is no common sense to use, it is all about Trademark law...

https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm

PYC was never registered as a Trademark and so you have no right to sue anyone in Federal court against its use, expecially if the other party registered it on their side and that it was accepted...Welcome in the real world...
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
We are successful because more and more people trust us each day, and we honor that trust.  This creates even more customers. No matter how much you try, we are not going away. We are going to prove our values with actions in reply life. So Come back with some actual facts, is stop spreading FUD. It reflects badly on the entire industry.

It's a fairly good impersonation but not the real CEO. Only made one spelling mistake and is still refusing to post from the real account.

Are any of you paying any attention?  Suchmoon already gave you all the information you needed but none of you put it together.  That entire posted conversation was with a troll.  Josh's actual account is "GAW Miners_CEO"  Even after Josh actually posted here, you still didn't figure it out.

Fail, fail, fail.  All of you.  Except Suchmoon.  Who happens to be the only person I respect in the actual GAW thread.  Bravo, sir.

And to you, fake gawceo.  Epic trolling.  I applaud you sir.  Worthy of legend.  It is not every day that you see a troll take his craft so seriously and really push the envelope.

And to you Vlad - get over yourself.  You have nothing.  This "community" was dead and would still be dead if XPY had not come along.  Even half of this PYC thread is now about GAW, so they've taken that from you too.  This thread is nothing more than a subthread to the other GAW thread, which is where half the people who have recently appeared on this thread have come from.  Any court of law, if you were to actually make it that far, would quickly come to the conclusion that PYC was abandoned long ago and award the trademark to GAW.  You wanna poke fun at XPY and laugh that their coin got stuck for a day?  You can't even compile your fork, by your own admission.  Regardless of your opinion of GAW/XPY they have a living coin and an actual community.

Your coin is just like your conversation with the troll - much ado about nothing.


bold statement true for both parties, you just don't realise it'll hit when it'll hit.
thanks for helping https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9849580
legendary
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Lets use commonsense.

How do you get to own a name? trademark? i don't really know to be honest if Josh has applied for a trade mark does that not mean you cant if you haven't already?

If owning a name depends on who has the trademark then the trademark owner is the winner am i wrong? and if that is how it works then its very simple the old paycoin has no legs to stand on
newbie
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I think the best solution would be for Josh to post his chat logs.  No hacking required.

Edit: He already said he was going to do this so lets see if he keeps his word.
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