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Topic: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin: constellations POW *CPU* HARD FORK successful, world record - page 90. (Read 685207 times)

hero member
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is there still a way to mine RIC now since ypool has gone for while
hero member
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At least the attacks had one positive side effect, the community was active for a time... back to silence now though.

Well, why should the community be active when one pool has an unfair advantage (violating licensees etc.)?
... I for my share have sold all my RIC at a profit back in March '16. The currencies value has halved since then (compared to the BTC you get for it).

  one4many
hero member
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At least the attacks had one positive side effect, the community was active for a time... back to silence now though.
full member
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How the hell is possible to be 7 months of non-stop DDoS attacks? this guy is rich? he doesn't need to work? what the hell he wants?  WHO THE FUCKING HELL IS THE ATTACKER?

The only good thing about the attacks is the knowedge about networks i get trying day by day to avoid these attacks.
newbie
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xpoolx has problems in recent days? I can't mine properly on mining.xpoolx.com:5000. The site is down but a lot of cpu power mining here!

You are not mining on xpoolx, simba. Stratum it's working perfectly, only the website is down till i finish some changes.
You still continue to call me Simba?Huh Can I give you my 3 ips and the account on the pool and see that 9 times out of 10 xptminer does not connect to the server (Connection server lost)
full member
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xpoolx has problems in recent days? I can't mine properly on mining.xpoolx.com:5000. The site is down but a lot of cpu power mining here!

You are not mining on xpoolx, simba. Stratum it's working perfectly, only the website is down till i finish some changes.
newbie
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xpoolx has problems in recent days? I can't mine properly on mining.xpoolx.com:5000. The site is down but a lot of cpu power mining here!
hero member
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Well, leaving aside my doubts about PoS' security, it is true that implementing PoS between super-super-blocks would work. However the point of RIC was to prove that PoW could be improved to get some useful results, so I'm more inclined towards a PoW-only solution.

Even if POS was implemented that would not change the usefulness of a superblock based POW solution, in fact i think it would compliment it. That being said i would be in favor of a POW only solution but if that turns out to be impractical or to difficult to implement at least there is another option.
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CTO @ Flixxo, Riecoin dev
trying to get RIC up to date with changes introduced to BTC up to 0.12.1 ..... doing it right is a lot of painstaking work... too many changes, too many decisions...
hero member
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Well, leaving aside my doubts about PoS' security, it is true that implementing PoS between super-super-blocks would work. However the point of RIC was to prove that PoW could be improved to get some useful results, so I'm more inclined towards a PoW-only solution.
legendary
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It's about time -- All merrit accepted !!!
prof of stake lol

they say that miracles, idiots and trolls never cease

amen
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imagine super 'super' blocks , idk once a month ? every 6 weeks ??

originally i thought the idea of the 'superblock' was kind of 'weird' or 'risky' but it seems to have worked out very well

Imagine a way to have our cake and eat it too, with what grata is suggesting we could keep normal block time while building larger primes.


If we could focus work on larger numbers without impacting the coin's transactions we could reach 1037 digits in weeks intead of years. I've been working in this direction and I'll put my ideas in written as soon as I understand them Smiley


Alternatively I would suggest POS could be added to keep network transactions moving freeing the computational power of ric to search for larger primes, diff adjustment could then be done on the basis of block time, retargeting every block based on average block time over the last xblocks (for example adding average block time + 2.5 mins) and possibly with an upper time limit so as to avoid stuck blocks. Pos rewards could be static x% (perhaps 1%) of each block to avoid changing the coin emission.

legendary
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It's about time -- All merrit accepted !!!
imagine super 'super' blocks , idk once a month ? every 6 weeks ??

originally i thought the idea of the 'superblock' was kind of 'weird' or 'risky' but it seems to have worked out very well
hero member
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CTO @ Flixxo, Riecoin dev
Question.

What are the criterium of a super-block ? How you get them ?
I can't find a deeper structure. Okay, at the moment I see, the difference from block to block is a (big) multiple of 173#...

The length of the primes ("difficulty" is the length of the base prime in binary digits) is adjusted so that we find one block (each block has one sextuplet) every 2.5 minutes. There is some variance, but we adjust the difficulty a couple of times a day so we don't get far from the 2.5 min target.
Once a week we work on a sextuplet that is about 30 times harder so it takes us 70 minutes (in average of course), and we call that a superblock. So we have a superblock once every 4032 blocks.

The numbers being a multiple of 173# is just a result of how the (mining) software makes the sieve and is not mandated by the protocol.
newbie
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Question.

What are the criterium of a super-block ? How you get them ?
I can't find a deeper structure. Okay, at the moment I see, the difference from block to block is a (big) multiple of 173#...
hero member
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I guess from the silence everything is running smoothly now and the ddos are over?

Also my pool is often under attack! I don't understand why someone wants to sabotage this great project...

Please stop and look elsewhere, or mine Riecoin like everyone else!

Thank you

I read coinkite had to close their wallet service because of too much ddos: constant attacks over three years
it's insane!
hero member
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The number above corresponds to a Riecoin difficulty of 3444.
Wow!

Yes, but all our base primes start with 10000000 in binary so I'd round it up instead of down: 3445 just to be safe


That's about 50% higher than current super-blocks, which might be stretching the monetary purpose of RIC a bit, but would still be feasible I guess. Too bad it would take a hard fork...

I wonder if there could be a way to "vote" for super block difficulty? When bitcoin miners are considering voting for block size, RIC miners could vote for the superblock difficulty multiplier.

This could allow some super-super-block to be voted by miner consensus, to claim a world record, and then miners could resume "normal" difficulty.

Agreed. 50% higher in number of digits means more than ten times of actual work because of the exponential nature of this stuff. One order of magnitude higher, however still doable.

I'm trying to find a way of keeping frequent blocks instead of super-blocks, because some traders rely on the speed of the coin for arbitrage. I don't want to hurt them with transactions that take many hours.
hero member
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Yes it is adedication. It was a full time job, all cores runs 4 years nonstop with 100%  and costs a lot of power, maybe 2500 USD or EUR for this one ! ..but it is my favorite hobby. The PC was undervolted ,so the CPU max 60 degrees on very hot summer days and near noiseless. Both PCs have only 230W under full load.

(Sorry for my bad english sometimes.)

wow, congratulations on your new record!

and welcome to Riecoin!

but... challenge accepted! we are going to have to break it Smiley

I was thinking about the differences between Riecoin mining vs just finding a sextuplet. In Riecoin we are forcing the the first digits of the base prime to match the hash of the block, so the first 250 or so binary digits are "fixed" and change about once every 2.5 minutes. This means we have to make a new sieve each time and gives us a "disadvantage", in the sense that there is a loss in efficiency.
But compare our efforts: in two years, we found many sextuplets in the range of 500 digits. This is far from the 1037 of the new record, but hey! we found 400000 of those! We have much more computing power than 18 phenoms.

If we could focus work on larger numbers without impacting the coin's transactions we could reach 1037 digits in weeks intead of years. I've been working in this direction and I'll put my ideas in written as soon as I understand them Smiley
Meanwhile, we are getting the attention of more people insterested in Maths making them look into cryptocurrencies. That makes me happy Smiley
hero member
Activity: 583
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CTO @ Flixxo, Riecoin dev
Yes it is adedication. It was a full time job, all cores runs 4 years nonstop with 100%  and costs a lot of power, maybe 2500 USD or EUR for this one ! ..but it is my favorite hobby. The PC was undervolted ,so the CPU max 60 degrees on very hot summer days and near noiseless. Both PCs have only 230W under full load.

(Sorry for my bad english sometimes.)

wow, congratulations on your new record!

and welcome to Riecoin!

newbie
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Yes it is adedication. It was a full time job, all cores runs 4 years nonstop with 100%  and costs a lot of power, maybe 2500 USD or EUR for this one ! ..but it is my favorite hobby. The PC was undervolted ,so the CPU max 60 degrees on very hot summer days and near noiseless. Both PCs have only 230W under full load.

(Sorry for my bad english sometimes.)
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