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Topic: [ANN][SBC] From Death Comes Life – The Rebirth of StableCoin - URGENT UPDATE - page 18. (Read 198682 times)
January 30, 2014, 05:38:32 AM
January 29, 2014, 10:20:46 AM
"Last Active: January 20, 2014, 12:29:32 PM"
I would say that Artos doesn't really care what any of us think or say--especially with all the threats and haranguing (and yes, I have been as guilty as any in my impatience and irritation).
However, every time he does show up, he's made substantial progress. I know it's hard to be patient--God do I know that--but he has discussed this before and all the impatience.
Remember what he posted back in December:
I hope that he also has his eyes on the competition, but it's clear from the outset that he would not be hurried and that he was determined that when it is released, it will be as close to perfection as he can get it.
I would say that Artos doesn't really care what any of us think or say--especially with all the threats and haranguing (and yes, I have been as guilty as any in my impatience and irritation).
However, every time he does show up, he's made substantial progress. I know it's hard to be patient--God do I know that--but he has discussed this before and all the impatience.
Remember what he posted back in December:
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The mixing service will come when it's ready. There's a lot to tackle on not only on the developmental side, but also with testing and deployment. I also have to deal with promotion, management, and a multitude of other things associated with the coin in general. I encourage you to get involved in these things if you want to see the coin grow faster.
The only hard timeline is to have it ready before nightmares like CoinValidation become a reality.
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The only hard timeline is to have it ready before nightmares like CoinValidation become a reality.
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I hope that he also has his eyes on the competition, but it's clear from the outset that he would not be hurried and that he was determined that when it is released, it will be as close to perfection as he can get it.
January 28, 2014, 05:40:42 PM
We can start development of a mixing service without artos.
It would really benefit us to have his assistance right now though.
He'd better wisen up in that regard. Ultimately there are going to have to be some people that he trusts in the community, or this won't move.
It would really benefit us to have his assistance right now though.
He'd better wisen up in that regard. Ultimately there are going to have to be some people that he trusts in the community, or this won't move.
January 28, 2014, 04:25:34 PM
It's not going to work if you never trust anyone Artos and don't share the load with people who are actually willing to help. Just make sure these people are long standing members and don't have any coins of their own. There are many trustworthy people around and you only gain trust by giving people small responsibilities and build on that over time.
I don't know about you but I would like as many skilled devs as possible (being properly managed). It would be far better than a single person doing everything (who also works full time on something different).
100% agree!I don't know about you but I would like as many skilled devs as possible (being properly managed). It would be far better than a single person doing everything (who also works full time on something different).
Please Artos, take some help from the community.
This. We need a larger workforce on this coin if its going to go anywhere.
January 28, 2014, 04:04:13 PM
It's not going to work if you never trust anyone Artos and don't share the load with people who are actually willing to help. Just make sure these people are long standing members and don't have any coins of their own. There are many trustworthy people around and you only gain trust by giving people small responsibilities and build on that over time.
I don't know about you but I would like as many skilled devs as possible (being properly managed). It would be far better than a single person doing everything (who also works full time on something different).
100% agree!I don't know about you but I would like as many skilled devs as possible (being properly managed). It would be far better than a single person doing everything (who also works full time on something different).
Please Artos, take some help from the community.
January 28, 2014, 12:17:00 PM
It's not going to work if you never trust anyone Artos and don't share the load with people who are actually willing to help. Just make sure these people are long standing members and don't have any coins of their own. There are many trustworthy people around and you only gain trust by giving people small responsibilities and build on that over time.
I don't know about you but I would like as many skilled devs as possible (being properly managed). It would be far better than a single person doing everything (who also works full time on something different).
I don't know about you but I would like as many skilled devs as possible (being properly managed). It would be far better than a single person doing everything (who also works full time on something different).
January 28, 2014, 08:13:48 AM
I'm organizing a contest fund to create incentive for 3rd party devs to work on creating a mixing service: http://forums.stablecoin.net/index.php?topic=250.0 < Are you interested in participating?
Nice idea but I haven't generated a substantial amount of SBC from my mining yet and can't afford to give any away.
January 28, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
I made my case that Artos should open up expressions of interest to make a dev team here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4594734
I think his issue is trust - the fear that someone may join the dev team and then copy the mixing code and give it to another coin. However, if he opens up expressions of interest he can sift through the post history of different people to see who is most reliable. People like R-T-B and Zavtra seem to be very trustworthy judging by their comments and how long and active they've been as part of this community and I'd recommend he brings them on board - R-T-B has already expressed his interest.
It is frustrating having a Single Point Of Failure with this coin. It also makes people hesitant to support/invest in this coin as its future is uncertain. I am well aware that the mixing feature will definitely take some time, and I have no doubt Artos is working hard on it. But if we don't get there first, SBC will die (unless there turns out to be a huge problem with the anonymizing features of zerocoin/anoncoin, buying us more time).
Also, Artos, could you please update the original post with the 1.5 clients, as well as add links to the CoinedUp and Coins-E SBC/BTC markets in the exchanges section of the website:
CoinedUp: https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=SBC&base=BTC
Coins-E: https://www.coins-e.com/exchange/SBC_BTC/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4594734
I think his issue is trust - the fear that someone may join the dev team and then copy the mixing code and give it to another coin. However, if he opens up expressions of interest he can sift through the post history of different people to see who is most reliable. People like R-T-B and Zavtra seem to be very trustworthy judging by their comments and how long and active they've been as part of this community and I'd recommend he brings them on board - R-T-B has already expressed his interest.
It is frustrating having a Single Point Of Failure with this coin. It also makes people hesitant to support/invest in this coin as its future is uncertain. I am well aware that the mixing feature will definitely take some time, and I have no doubt Artos is working hard on it. But if we don't get there first, SBC will die (unless there turns out to be a huge problem with the anonymizing features of zerocoin/anoncoin, buying us more time).
Also, Artos, could you please update the original post with the 1.5 clients, as well as add links to the CoinedUp and Coins-E SBC/BTC markets in the exchanges section of the website:
CoinedUp: https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=SBC&base=BTC
Coins-E: https://www.coins-e.com/exchange/SBC_BTC/
January 27, 2014, 09:06:22 PM
I can't say that Artos' recent post, that he's only working on the mixing service when he finds some spare time, reassures me at all about the future of this coin, considering what others have said about Anoncoin and Zerocoin having teams of devs working on it and so likely to get there first. I'm not even sure it would save SBC if it did get the mixing service first, as now that people expect other coins to have the same feature soon they might just decide one of those other coins has a catchier name and wait for it to get it's mixing service. After all, if they've got the same features, what else separates coins except for the name and the confidence people have in those behind it, which in the case of SBC is just Artos and he hasn't exactly been going out of his way to make people feel confident?
It might still have a chance if it gets the mixing service first though but that's a big if considering Artos' limited time and that we don't even know how much work he's done/still has to do, so I'm really hoping a team can be formed to try and get it done before any other coin manages it, although I appreciate it's not an easy task.
Exactly my thoughts. I don't see this going anywhere with a single developer whose priority isn't the coin and who doesn't even care to market it or inform people on a regular basis. When he came back he made it sound like he and other people would be putting a lot of effort into making it a successful long-term coin, yet it never made it to a chinese exchange or anything. If we as a community don't put real effort into making things happen the coin is as good as dead. It might still have a chance if it gets the mixing service first though but that's a big if considering Artos' limited time and that we don't even know how much work he's done/still has to do, so I'm really hoping a team can be formed to try and get it done before any other coin manages it, although I appreciate it's not an easy task.
January 27, 2014, 08:58:16 PM
I'm organizing a contest fund to create incentive for 3rd party devs to work on creating a mixing service: http://forums.stablecoin.net/index.php?topic=250.0 < Are you interested in participating?
January 27, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
I can't say that Artos' recent post, that he's only working on the mixing service when he finds some spare time, reassures me at all about the future of this coin, considering what others have said about Anoncoin and Zerocoin having teams of devs working on it and so likely to get there first. I'm not even sure it would save SBC if it did get the mixing service first, as now that people expect other coins to have the same feature soon they might just decide one of those other coins has a catchier name and wait for it to get it's mixing service. After all, if they've got the same features, what else separates coins except for the name and the confidence people have in those behind it, which in the case of SBC is just Artos and he hasn't exactly been going out of his way to make people feel confident?
It might still have a chance if it gets the mixing service first though but that's a big if considering Artos' limited time and that we don't even know how much work he's done/still has to do, so I'm really hoping a team can be formed to try and get it done before any other coin manages it, although I appreciate it's not an easy task.
It might still have a chance if it gets the mixing service first though but that's a big if considering Artos' limited time and that we don't even know how much work he's done/still has to do, so I'm really hoping a team can be formed to try and get it done before any other coin manages it, although I appreciate it's not an easy task.
January 27, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
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January 27, 2014, 04:13:22 AM
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The aim and goal of this pool is to provide a secure and stable place for StableCoin Miners.
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We are a pool solely dedicated to mining StableCoin (SBC). We used input from the StableCoin community to build this pool.
Features
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Credit on 35 confirms
Zero fees for manual payout
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The aim and goal of this pool is to provide a secure and stable place for StableCoin Miners.
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Right now we have 0% fees until February 20th, 2014.
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January 25, 2014, 06:49:31 PM
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The aim and goal of this pool is to provide a secure and stable place for StableCoin Miners.
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January 25, 2014, 05:46:54 PM
Well I've given up on getting any response from Coins-E about my missing SBC. They don't give a crap. Nearly 3 weeks and no response.
Yeah...I'm still waiting on 10k PXC from September 6th...don't hold your breath
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- SSL encryption
- Custom MPOS layout
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- We are equipped to withstand thousands of workers
- Excellent stability and uptime
We also provide many other coin pools and even have a coin-switching multi-port that switches between coins to maximize profitability!
One account fits all
We have modified MPOS to provide a multipool experience. You only have to create one account, and that account is shared among all of our coin instances. Unlike some other multipools, and since we're on top of MPOS, we offer you complete transparency about provided shares, found blocks and much more!
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- Earthcoin - port 3334
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- Lottocoin - port 3336
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January 25, 2014, 01:56:13 PM
Yeah, Coins-E is a pretty looking scam site. What do you guys think about this? http://forums.stablecoin.net/index.php?topic=250
January 25, 2014, 10:53:50 AM
Well I've given up on getting any response from Coins-E about my missing SBC. They don't give a crap. Nearly 3 weeks and no response.
January 25, 2014, 08:06:41 AM
Cannot wait for the day I'm able to purchase a brand new wife and helper (slave) with my SBC 
Be careful whan posting such things, the NSA is always watching. 
Getting rid of that fear is part of the point of this. Tally ho.
January 25, 2014, 08:04:47 AM
Cannot wait for the day I'm able to purchase a brand new wife and helper (slave) with my SBC
Be careful whan posting such things, the NSA is always watching. Very true I should not say these things
I will be using my stablecoin to purchase I-tunes songs and kitchen utensils, that is all.
On that note, apparently there is a StableCoin marketplace looking to launch very soon, be on the lookout for it
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