Topic: [ANN][SHA]SHACoin2 - Dead Revival - Virtual & Physical Coin - Faucet - page 54. (Read 198297 times)
April 26, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
I'm very confused. I know raskul, and I'm sure he's not got the coding expertise to hack a blockchain. I certainly don't, so I won't even speculate as to how it's done. So how is it that y'all are getting different results?
April 26, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
tx id of 600million premined coins:
http://shaexplorer.mineoncloud.com/index.php?transaction=da351909f800edc82d60e8f250977d725f5ef6fafb3da8a5e295ccf0ffbaac9c
http://shaexplorer.mineoncloud.com/index.php?transaction=da351909f800edc82d60e8f250977d725f5ef6fafb3da8a5e295ccf0ffbaac9c
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April 26, 2014, 02:56:59 PM
just accept it dude. we would be better facing the facts and moving on than making slanderous accusations and trying to deceive your way to make people believe there was not a problem.
that the difficult is to provide transaction id?i can check transaction, frank123m can check transaction... 1 min to check this, but i don`t see this few hours...
tx id of 600million premined coins:
http://shaexplorer.mineoncloud.com/index.php?transaction=da351909f800edc82d60e8f250977d725f5ef6fafb3da8a5e295ccf0ffbaac9c
April 26, 2014, 02:55:28 PM
Do we have any working block explorer?
new:
http://shaexplorer.mineoncloud.com/
old blockchain(2014.04.07):
https://mega.co.nz/#!I9IF0ZLT!XgzbrNIGfRZV0EXL6Pw1LRXLAvCmvDzPm9T8bUq1FO8
Maybe someone has a technology can be restored to better time?
April 26, 2014, 02:37:30 PM
To make things more transparent some cool guy made top 100 addresses list for me.
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?top=100
It clearly states:
1. Total coin in the system: 733 536 630.36497605 sha
2. Richest address holds 397 874 484.35873902 sha (most likely premined coins)
3. Address SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE received: 600000100.00000000sha and send elsewhere: 600000100.00000000 sha (most likely to the richest address)
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?addr=SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE
The owner of CryptoALTeX claims that the scammer (most likely previous developer) sold about 150-200 million coins on his exchange. That would match 600mln-200 million sold = corrupted wallet balance (397 874 484.35873902 sha). I think that we need to accept the fact that we will have about 340mln in circulation (when we cut off the wallet with 397mln premined coins), and these coins that have entered circulation as a result of fraud Must Be Considered as "good coins" people who bought it from the exchanges (including me), honestly paying for it.
We need recovery plan. Here's what we can do:
1 Remove the wallet address from the system containing 397 874 484.35873902 premined coins.
2 Re-launch a coin with the new rules and explanation what happened and what has been done to recover.
3 Accept coins into the system released into circulation by the fraudster and treated them as "good coins". Unfortunately there is no other way.
4 Consider the reduction of inflation to compensate for the greater amount of coins (eg 10% flat yearly, or even less).
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?top=100
It clearly states:
1. Total coin in the system: 733 536 630.36497605 sha
2. Richest address holds 397 874 484.35873902 sha (most likely premined coins)
3. Address SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE received: 600000100.00000000sha and send elsewhere: 600000100.00000000 sha (most likely to the richest address)
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?addr=SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE
The owner of CryptoALTeX claims that the scammer (most likely previous developer) sold about 150-200 million coins on his exchange. That would match 600mln-200 million sold = corrupted wallet balance (397 874 484.35873902 sha). I think that we need to accept the fact that we will have about 340mln in circulation (when we cut off the wallet with 397mln premined coins), and these coins that have entered circulation as a result of fraud Must Be Considered as "good coins" people who bought it from the exchanges (including me), honestly paying for it.
We need recovery plan. Here's what we can do:
1 Remove the wallet address from the system containing 397 874 484.35873902 premined coins.
2 Re-launch a coin with the new rules and explanation what happened and what has been done to recover.
3 Accept coins into the system released into circulation by the fraudster and treated them as "good coins". Unfortunately there is no other way.
4 Consider the reduction of inflation to compensate for the greater amount of coins (eg 10% flat yearly, or even less).
Very good info. I just wonder howto create top 100. need the script.
but if you use the newest blockchain, it of course have the 600 mils.
and we need to use the original one to see the difference.
April 26, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
Do we have any working block explorer?
April 26, 2014, 02:16:43 PM
just accept it dude. we would be better facing the facts and moving on than making slanderous accusations and trying to deceive your way to make people believe there was not a problem.
that the difficult is to provide transaction id?i can check transaction, frank123m can check transaction... 1 min to check this, but i don`t see this few hours...
April 26, 2014, 01:56:10 PM
just accept it dude. we would be better facing the facts and moving on than making slanderous accusations and trying to deceive your way to make people believe there was not a problem.
April 26, 2014, 01:52:03 PM
To make things more transparent some cool guy made top 100 addresses list for me.
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?top=100
It clearly states:
1. Total coin in the system: 733 536 630.36497605 sha
2. Richest address holds 397 874 484.35873902 sha (most likely premined coins)
3. Address SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE received: 600000100.00000000sha and send elsewhere: 600000100.00000000 sha (most likely to the richest address)
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?addr=SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE
The owner of CryptoALTeX claims that the scammer (most likely previous developer) sold about 150-200 million coins on his exchange. That would match 600mln-200 million sold = corrupted wallet balance (397 874 484.35873902 sha). I think that we need to accept the fact that we will have about 340mln in circulation (when we cut off the wallet with 397mln premined coins), and these coins that have entered circulation as a result of fraud Must Be Considered as "good coins" people who bought it from the exchanges (including me), honestly paying for it.
We need recovery plan. Here's what we can do:
1 Remove the wallet address from the system containing 397 874 484.35873902 premined coins.
2 Re-launch a coin with the new rules and explanation what happened and what has been done to recover.
3 Accept coins into the system released into circulation by the fraudster and treated them as "good coins". Unfortunately there is no other way.
4 Consider the reduction of inflation to compensate for the greater amount of coins (eg 10% flat yearly, or even less).
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?top=100
It clearly states:
1. Total coin in the system: 733 536 630.36497605 sha
2. Richest address holds 397 874 484.35873902 sha (most likely premined coins)
3. Address SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE received: 600000100.00000000sha and send elsewhere: 600000100.00000000 sha (most likely to the richest address)
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?addr=SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE
The owner of CryptoALTeX claims that the scammer (most likely previous developer) sold about 150-200 million coins on his exchange. That would match 600mln-200 million sold = corrupted wallet balance (397 874 484.35873902 sha). I think that we need to accept the fact that we will have about 340mln in circulation (when we cut off the wallet with 397mln premined coins), and these coins that have entered circulation as a result of fraud Must Be Considered as "good coins" people who bought it from the exchanges (including me), honestly paying for it.
We need recovery plan. Here's what we can do:
1 Remove the wallet address from the system containing 397 874 484.35873902 premined coins.
2 Re-launch a coin with the new rules and explanation what happened and what has been done to recover.
3 Accept coins into the system released into circulation by the fraudster and treated them as "good coins". Unfortunately there is no other way.
4 Consider the reduction of inflation to compensate for the greater amount of coins (eg 10% flat yearly, or even less).
in original blockchain?
any id transactoin plz - i can`t make search for adress in my explorer?
April 26, 2014, 01:44:25 PM
To make things more transparent some cool guy made top 100 addresses list for me.
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?top=100
It clearly states:
1. Total coin in the system: 733 536 630.36497605 sha
2. Richest address holds 397 874 484.35873902 sha (most likely premined coins)
3. Address SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE received: 600000100.00000000sha and send elsewhere: 600000100.00000000 sha (most likely to the richest address)
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?addr=SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE
The owner of CryptoALTeX claims that the scammer (most likely previous developer) sold about 150-200 million coins on his exchange. That would match 600mln-200 million sold = corrupted wallet balance (397 874 484.35873902 sha). I think that we need to accept the fact that we will have about 340mln in circulation (when we cut off the wallet with 397mln premined coins), and these coins that have entered circulation as a result of fraud Must Be Considered as "good coins" people who bought it from the exchanges (including me), honestly paying for it.
We need recovery plan. Here's what we can do:
1 Remove the wallet address from the system containing 397 874 484.35873902 premined coins.
2 Re-launch a coin with the new rules and explanation what happened and what has been done to recover.
3 Accept coins into the system released into circulation by the fraudster and treated them as "good coins". Unfortunately there is no other way.
4 Consider the reduction of inflation to compensate for the greater amount of coins (eg 10% flat yearly, or even less).
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?top=100
It clearly states:
1. Total coin in the system: 733 536 630.36497605 sha
2. Richest address holds 397 874 484.35873902 sha (most likely premined coins)
3. Address SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE received: 600000100.00000000sha and send elsewhere: 600000100.00000000 sha (most likely to the richest address)
http://coinia.net/shacoin/getbalance.php?addr=SUf5V8bm88aRym27VDgVMGmZNySMzTSLPE
The owner of CryptoALTeX claims that the scammer (most likely previous developer) sold about 150-200 million coins on his exchange. That would match 600mln-200 million sold = corrupted wallet balance (397 874 484.35873902 sha). I think that we need to accept the fact that we will have about 340mln in circulation (when we cut off the wallet with 397mln premined coins), and these coins that have entered circulation as a result of fraud Must Be Considered as "good coins" people who bought it from the exchanges (including me), honestly paying for it.
We need recovery plan. Here's what we can do:
1 Remove the wallet address from the system containing 397 874 484.35873902 premined coins.
2 Re-launch a coin with the new rules and explanation what happened and what has been done to recover.
3 Accept coins into the system released into circulation by the fraudster and treated them as "good coins". Unfortunately there is no other way.
4 Consider the reduction of inflation to compensate for the greater amount of coins (eg 10% flat yearly, or even less).
April 26, 2014, 01:39:37 PM
COIN DEAD - THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER MINED 600MILLION IN BLOCK 1 AND DID NOT TELL ANYONE
provide evidence?
this empty statement...
In the pastebin he showed a link to the the IRC thread..
This was in the IRC log, http://imgur.com/poAZYKz
Assuming that's really whats in the code, it does look like the nValue=600000100 is a 600 Million premine at height=1. I assume thats what he's talking about.. (I suppose the explorer would have had to have been modified to hide it too?) ** I'm not major tech, so maybe I'm misreading that...
Maybe at least the concept behind Shacoin will carry on anyway..
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6405577
[15:50:34]
where is Transaction ID? Address? any that can be checked? link for code which avoid this 600 m...
all that i see - void words and picture without any information...
April 26, 2014, 01:23:38 PM
COIN DEAD - THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER MINED 600MILLION IN BLOCK 1 AND DID NOT TELL ANYONE
provide evidence?
this empty statement...
In the pastebin he showed a link to the the IRC thread..
This was in the IRC log, http://imgur.com/poAZYKz
Assuming that's really whats in the code, it does look like the nValue=600000100 is a 600 Million premine at height=1. I assume thats what he's talking about.. (I suppose the explorer would have had to have been modified to hide it too?) ** I'm not major tech, so maybe I'm misreading that...
Maybe at least the concept behind Shacoin will carry on anyway..
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6405577
April 26, 2014, 12:49:55 PM
Source code 1.0.0.0 here https://github.com/SHACoinProject/SHACoin
and i don`t no that is the code in first topic
and do not found 600 mil in fistst block
i setup more functional blockexplorer and write here found i 600 mil or no....
here last wallet from first dev
https://mega.co.nz/#!WJgRAa4a!NJ72pYpOIRp554Almmao0DVjlqWCHou_illuQwYSDrc this is the new link~
first wallet
https://mega.co.nz/#!3RYEBL5I!px1xbQLZM_srh0U9xs9pK05DApuA2X0PNdL7lX8ZQ7s
and i don`t no that is the code in first topic
and do not found 600 mil in fistst block
i setup more functional blockexplorer and write here found i 600 mil or no....
here last wallet from first dev
Is there a different link to the new wallet? The links in the OP appear to point to the original wallet (still says v1.0 and has old logo)
https://mega.co.nz/#!WJgRAa4a!NJ72pYpOIRp554Almmao0DVjlqWCHou_illuQwYSDrc this is the new link~
https://mega.co.nz/#!3RYEBL5I!px1xbQLZM_srh0U9xs9pK05DApuA2X0PNdL7lX8ZQ7s
April 26, 2014, 12:30:35 PM
COIN DEAD - THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER MINED 600MILLION IN BLOCK 1 AND DID NOT TELL ANYONE
Calm down man, maybe you sold the money.
if we go to 2014.04.22, you will still have your money!
i have ~250k SHACoins in a wallet that will not sync. as far as i'm concerned it's pointless trying to make up stories and blame CryptoGir for the lies and deceit of the original dev. Sometimes in life, shit happens and we have to forget about it and move on.
April 26, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Wait for a better future
April 26, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
COIN DEAD - THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER MINED 600MILLION IN BLOCK 1 AND DID NOT TELL ANYONE
provide evidence?
this empty statement...
April 26, 2014, 12:27:57 PM
Calm down man, maybe you sold the money.
if we go to 2014.04.22, you will still have your money!
April 26, 2014, 12:25:03 PM
COIN DEAD - THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER MINED 600MILLION IN BLOCK 1 AND DID NOT TELL ANYONE
April 26, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Nor does it make me a lier. Also, I do not appreciate being called a lier!
I will comment on this subject one more time. Why would I, one of the largest holders of SHA (30+ million) lie about there being a premine, and spend two weeks working to get this coin back up and running?
Answer, I would not! I was also working on a way to invalidate the 600 million extra coins and help the community relaunch this coin. I am not so sure I want to continue helping anymore.
Anyway, believe whatever the fuck you want. I will not comment on this again.
I will comment on this subject one more time. Why would I, one of the largest holders of SHA (30+ million) lie about there being a premine, and spend two weeks working to get this coin back up and running?
Answer, I would not! I was also working on a way to invalidate the 600 million extra coins and help the community relaunch this coin. I am not so sure I want to continue helping anymore.
Anyway, believe whatever the fuck you want. I will not comment on this again.
To tell the truth, I also did not want to call you like that.
You have these skills should be better.
If I really want to help you find the reason, I can only say that you got hacked.
now you are just desperately looking for excuses to deceive people that the 600million coins which were mined in block 1, were not. Just accept the fact that the original dev cheated the coin.
and i use self backup - not frank123m backup
how is this possible? that you found in the first block of 600 m, and we do not?
April 26, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
believe what you like 600million coins were created in the genesis block
Maybe you misunderstood, I just want to make this dream(get rich) come true.
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