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Shift is the coin.


The other thing i notice is this.


When i log into my shift nano wallet, it shows testnet.  That is the default for shift wallet.  I notice there is option of mainnet or custom node but i never changed it to that because i didn't know you could do this.


I typed in the txid into the shift explorer from the explorer on coinmarketcap... it shows over 200 confirmations.





However what is strange is when i type in shift testnet in google,


It shows


https://explorer.testnet.shift.shiftnrg.org



and



https://explorer/shiftnrg.org




I entered the txid into the 2nd one as that is the one shown on coinmarketcap.  But it shows the transaction as confirmed in the 2nd one.  So do i type it in the 1st link on google?


The thing is the shift address i have in my wallet, is the address that the shift was sent to.

I forgot to mention one other thing.  I notice when i log into my shift wallet, the network is testnet.  I then clicked on the scroll and there is option of mainnet or custom node.  Did i had to change it to mainnet?


When i first created the wallet, I don't think there was an option to do that?  Or you could have chosen mainnet? 



So do i log in to the mainnet with my passphrase?  Will it then show the shift i have?  When i login to the testnet as that is the default and enter my passphrase, there is 0 shift showing.  Im really worried now because the txid showed that there are over 200 plus confirmations already.  I mean my shift address in the testnet is still a legit shift address right?  Really concerned now because i had shift sent from exchange to the address and there is 0 shift showing.  Anyone with shift nano wallet can help here?

I did not have to register as delegate or anything like that with my shift nano wallet before i had shift sent from bittrex to shift right?


I logged in and out of my shift nano wallet few times and there still shows 0 shift.


But bittrex shows that the withdraw has been completed.

I requested shift from an exchange to my wallet.  I did not register 2nd passphrase or do anything like this yet. 


It shows the shift was sent from the exchange as it shows as authorized and completed on the exchange details.  But it still doesn't appear in my shift wallet.


Does it take a while for the shift to be received?  Or its probably because the exchange might take a while?  It was in pending for a short while and then shows up as completed in my withdraw history.  Its bittrex if it means anything.

Also i assume there is really no point in sending a test amount of shift from exchange to the shift wallet right?


When i have shift wallet opened, it basically shows the address ... which is long numbers and ends with the letter S.


It seems as straightforward as it could be for receiving shift?

Hi there.  I created the shift nano wallet. 


I got the passphrase that was created.


Now i will have shift sent from exchange to the shift wallet.  When i click receive shift, then have shift sent from exchange to shift wallet, then there will be some option in edit/view/window to do the 2nd paraphrase correct?  Or would it ask me the moment i log into shift to do a 2nd passphrase?


And when i do this, should i bother testing it out and send shift or there is no point of doing this after receiving the shift??  Such as send a tiny bit of shift to the exchange and then receive back?  Or there is no purpose of this as long as i make sure i have the 2nd passphrase correct?


Also the shift address ends with the letters.  Its long numbers and then the letter s.  Is that how all shift addresses are?


Also you say its more safer having the 2nd passphrase enabled in order to send/receive shift.  This is what confuses me a bit.  Well if the login is the 12 word passphrase, and the 2nd 12 word passphrase is to send the shift, someone would need both passphrases.  But wouldn't you be physically keeping both passphrases in the same place etc?  Now say it was a password you create yourself in order to be able to send shift... i could understand that as you could memorize it.  Do you have opinion on this?

You can first send a small ammount to test it, just make sure that you're sending to the right Shift address. Check it twice.

You can only activate the second passphrase when you have some Shift in your wallet, because the activation of the second passphrase muss be cemented into the blockchain as a type of transaction.

Hi.  I am going to download the wallet now. 


Okay to make sure everything is fine, download the wallet and have 2 passphrases.  Then when i send shift from an exchange to it, its pretty simple right?  Should i try testing a small shift withdraw from exchange to shift wallet to make sure it works first?  Or its fine sending shift from exchange to wallet at once? 

Yes, it's best to have the 2nd passphrase, yes shift will generate it for you just like the first passphrase.You can't choose your own. I like it that way, the passphrase generated from Shift wallet is more secure and random than any password you can imagine on your own.

Hi there.  So to confirm, best to have a 2nd passphrase.  But if you choose this, shift will generate it for you?  Thus you can't choose your own password for the 2nd passphrase?  That sucks that you can't pick your own password for the sending.

Hi.  So everytime you launch shift, you manually type in the 12 word seed?  Or you save your public address and next time you open it, you see your shift balance and transactions?  So the 2nd option is not that safe right since someone with access to your computer, assuming you don't have a password to the windows computer, thus make it not safe?  I do have my laptop encrypted though windows.


So you basically write your passphrase on a sheet of paper and anytime you want to access shift wallet, you look at it?  That seems a bit frustrating don't you agree?  Because for electrum and many wallets, we put a password and usually store that password in a program like lastpass or keepass to log in.


So basically the 2nd passphrase is if someone gets access to your 12 word passphrase, they still need the 2nd passphrase in order to send shift right?  Thus imagine someone got your 12 word shift passphrase, enter it on their computer.  But they can't do anything to the wallet access watch it right?  Thus it would be like watch only?


Don't you think that sucks that you can't put your own password for sending shift? 


I'm surprised they don't give you that option.

Every time you launch your Shift wallet you need to enter the 12 words or you have the option to save your public address and next time you open your Shift wallet you can automatically see your Shift balance and transactions.


The second passphrase is a additional security for your Shift wallet.

Yes, I have it activated..Shift wallet securely generates it itself. You don't have a option to put a password only the passphrases. Same thing is having the Lisk and Ark wallets.  

Also you say best to put a 2nd passphrase for security as anyone who has your 12 word passphrase cannot send the shift from the wallet.


So the 2nd passphrase for sending shift from the shift wallet... do you make up the 2nd passphrase yourself as you choose the passphrase/password for it?  Or does the shift wallet generate that for you as well and thus you don't have that option to put your own password?

Hi.  So just to confirm this.  When you create a shift wallet, you get a 12 word passphrase like you do with say electrum etc.  Now let say you do not put a second passphrase.  When you turn on your laptop and open the shift wallet, will it display your wallet automatically and your balance and anyone could send the shift if they had access to your computer at that moment?


Everytime you open the shift wallet from your computer, you have to copy/paste the 12 word passphrase each time?  In electrum, you get to choose a password if you want to not have your balance shown in wallet when you turn on electrum and when you send btc from it.  Thus to be more secure, you put a password because when you do this, someone who turns on your computer or has access to your computer, they cannot view your btc balance on electrum... and also they can't send btc from it unless they have your electrum password.  Almost all people put a password for sending btc with electrum.  But not all ppl would enable the not show balance etc. 
But obviously you should because that way no one know how much btc you have in electrum when you turn it on.



So with shift, the 2nd passphrase is for sending transactions.  But you cannot put your own password or passphrase for sending shift?  I find that a bit strange. 

To enter into your the Shift wallet, you need the 12 words that's the password (passphrase). You don't need anything else, no file backup. Your Shift wallet is generated from the unique 12 words and you enter into your Shift wallet with that.

That's why the second 12 words is good to have activated (for sending transactions). 1st 12 words for generating/entering your wallet and the second 12 words for sending transactions. No other options, only the 12 words.

Okay if i don't activate the 2nd passphrase, could i still have a password that i need to enter before i send shift?  Example i turn on computer, have to put in password to open wallet.  Now in the wallet, i want to send shift.  I want to have to enter a password before shift gets sent.


Could i do this without the 2nd passphrase or is that needed?  You say that 2nd passphrase is for sending/confirming but is it what im talking about here?



Example with electrum, i log into it and then put in my password.  Then when i want to send btc, it ask for my password etc.  I want to do it like electrum with shift.

Hi.  Do you have the second passphrase activated or not?  More safer to have it or not?


So when you open shift up on your computer, there is a password that you have to enter to open the wallet up right?  Thus you can't just turn on computer, and open shift like that?  I would want to put a password on it such as password to turn on the shift wallet.  How do i do this? 


Also can you confirm the official site of shift?  There are like 2 different sites when i enter shift wallet in google.  Thanks.

The second passphrase is optional, you have the choice do activate it or not. You can do it any time.

Yes, if you have installed Shift wallet on another PC and you have activated previously the second passphrase you need the second one to be available to make/sign transactions otherwise nothing from using your Shifts.

I think if you register the second passphrase you can't disable it later on (not sure, I will look up that later).

Look, if you care about yout Shifts, example you got more than $100 in Shifts, put a second passphrase it's a addtional security and you can sleep better in night knowing that you have a extra security on your money.

Hi.  Well if you only do the first passphrase, can you do the 2nd passphrase later on?  Or you do not have this option?


Okay so if you had to use another computer and thus install shift wallet on new computer, obviously you need your seed.  But you have to make sure you have that second paraphrase otherwise you can't use it right?


So if you do the second passphrase, if you don't want it later on, only way would basically be get a new shift address and then no second passphrase?  Then send the shift from old wallet to new wallet?
So which do you suggest? 

First passphrase is used for generating your unique public address and private key. Just like in Electrum wallet.
The second passphrase is used for generating/confirming a outgoing address.

In other words, if you have activated the second passphrase you won't be available to make/sign a transaction if you lost the second one.

When you activate the second passphrase it's cemented into the Shifts blockchain and you can't undo it.

Here it's a example of it (creation of second passphrase/second signature).
https://explorer.shiftnrg.org/tx/8362353328735219614