Topic: [ANN][SHIFT] The New Web | IPFS/Phantom | ShiftNrg.org Hosted Decentralized! - page 8. (Read 547597 times)

Pretty sure they are dead then. There was a coinswap when Shift changed from Ethbase to Liskbase. And I think it is pretty much over and done. If you haven't already, go ask in the Telegram chat: https://t.me/shiftnrg

Hi,
Sorry for botter u I am totaly lost in this story. I have some shift coins on old eth wallet I lost password so I left it..
In meantime I found pass but I see now shift is on a new platform. Can I acess to my coins somehow or its a dead story now?
thx in advance

nope

Is there a source available for this? Which large companies have shown support and in which way has significant funds been spent on promotion, is there some kind of a financial report where this has been mentioned?

good that they still have a roadmap even after the releases of q2. it will be exciting, especially for the market in relation with shift.

Shift’s first official dApp, called Phantom, is a user interface for file management over the IPFS network on Shift’s cluster. On the GitHub there are parts of codes for anyone to check. From the point of view of investors, it is important to note that the project is supported by large companies and has obviously spent significant funds for promotion.

Tools to help to make a research for your voting list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShiftProject/comments/9b1bjm/tools_to_help_to_make_a_research_for_your_voting/

Suggested list of delegates to vote/unvote:
https://tinyurl.com/ShiftProject-short-list

Shift vote day is here for some timezones! Make sure to get out and vote. Guidelines to be eligible to have your vote fees refunded can be found here;
https://www.shiftproject.com/news/news-item/11

Also, a community member has assembled a suggested list of delegates to vote/unvote and the reasoning behind that here;
https://www.shiftnrg.com.mx/2018/08/31/suggested-vote-unvote-list-for-shift-delegates/

Agreed, it is the time to get rid of the crappy delegates. Vote for Free September 1st.

Nice initiative on Shift Vote Day Refund, I'm sure this will entice a lot more people to actively vote.

By Shift Team in Newsletter on Aug 19, 2018
https://www.shiftproject.com/news/news-item/11

In late-2016, for the sake of mitigating the Shift blockchain’s vulnerability to a hashrate attack, the Shift Team made the important decision to port the platform from Ethereum’s Proof-of-Work (PoW) algorithm, to Lisk’s Delegated-Proof-of-Stake (DPoS) system. That decision proved to be the correct one, with it resulting in the more stable ecosystem in which to conduct the task of building a decentralized storage and web hosting solution that we enjoy today. However, while it came with many advantages, that decision also meant adopting a fledgling delegation system with much room for improvement. Seeking to revolutionize the underlying design, a major ambition of the Shift Team is the creation of a new consensus algorithm that will solve many of the problems that participants in a variety of DPoS projects have raised. The team believes, however, that the completion of this new and innovative consensus algorithm should not come at the expense of releasing a fully functioning product at the earliest opportunity. For that reason, in order to provide a means of encouraging the current delegation system to be the best that it can be, we would like to lend our support to a Shift Vote Day, an instance in which we, as a community of individuals devoted to bettering the Shift ecosystem, can collaboratively work towards ensuring that those 101 delegates tasked with the responsibility of securing the blockchain, maintain a consistent devotion to the integrity of the project.

Heard some good news frm a frnd involved in the shift team. Shift on the verge of being listed on poloniex exchange....confirmation has been received. Giving Shift lovers a headsup...Buy some shift before its too late!!

See: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/blob/master/README.md for zeronet information

and https://www.shiftnrg.org/faq

The information provided in both of those links, after being both read and understood will give you a far better understanding of differences than anyone can tell you in this thread.

What are the differences between Shift and ZeroNet ?

Well, technically, they are all storage solutions fighting for the same market of storage providers. However, there are some differences: as far as I know, Sia and Storj don't use IPFS, but have their own protocols, which might make interchanging a little fidgetty.

Secondly, Shift is focussed on storage for websites, which is a very different vector than, say backups or your personal dropbox. Storage providers for Shift will get a lot more traffic, since it's not only you getting some files in and out, but visitors wanting to look at your website.

I'm not sure whether Sia and Storj (or Filecoin, for that matter) are working on webhosting solutions, but this is a very different animal due to traffic. As a provider, you'd need a much more resilient infrastructure, or you'd need way more redundancy in the system as a whole, as well as a good mechanic to prevent some nodes from getting all the traffic and others getting almost none.

Will they try to compete with storage solutions already in place like STORJ and SIACOIN?

If I am reading their site correctly, do users lend out their hard drive on the SHIFT network so that people can host their websites on another person's hard drive?

Is it possible to offer bandwidth to people that want a significant amount for their website? I know bandwidth is very expensive and if we can decentralize that, that would be a game changer!

It's really easy:

https://contattafiles.s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/tnt10662/8BPah0jDtp8-Htq/PhantomShift.gif

So, here's something I've been wondering about for some time now:

Shift uses IPFS, which is good, because it is a good and proven protocol. Also, other projects use it, which makes switching between them very easy from the storage providers perspective. Decent is planning to use it, so is Lisk and obviously they have their own coin called filecoin, although that hasn't launched yet.

This creates quite a lot of competition, doesn't it. Just like Whattomine and Nicehash, there will most likely be some type of interchange on the providers side. Granted, it is not as easy and fast, since syncing up to the new network will probably take some time, but still: there is a chance that IPFS storage will not be as abundantly available as we think it might be.

The truth of the matter is that there is no way in hell that it will be profitable for an average user to rent out their spare 200 GB, or, to be more precise, even if it was marginally profitable, the economical incentive to provide that space for a one or low two digit earning per month doesn't line up. Instead, serverfarms will provide that storage. It kinda sounds like the old system, bt it's a bit better, since the built-in redundancy still keeps the system as a whole decantralized enough to prevent censorship, deletion of data and all that bad stuff, provided it is done correctly.

Now, here's my point now: If we assume that IPFS is the future of online/cloud storage, Shift will have to compete with a lot of other projects. Not so much on the  user side (for now), but on the provider side. Storage providers won't care whether they provide for Shifts websites or Decents cat videos (not that I think Decent is going anywhere, but that's a different story). And while we can assume that due to the overall sluggishness of the changing process, as well as the power of the free market, this will be somewhat mitigated, this might still be of significant impact, maybe even in a way that is somewhat comparable to the threats smaller GPU mined PoW currencies face today. Especially if some big players emerge, we could see some type of agglomeration with providers and ultimately users (due to higher liquidity and stability) tending towards few projects, possibly making the smaller projects less stable.

I don't really have a concise conclusion or anything, but I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShiftProject/comments/972r00/shift_hacker_quest_v_01/

Hey guys, Shift Hacker Quest by delegate mx with support of ghostfaceuk and shoosh will be launched August 25 17:00 UTC. It's a little web game based on Shift TestNet Cluster and open for everyone who even once tried to read source code and heard about encryption. With a cryptocurrency prize for the winner! Get ready to test your brain skills.

Level: Lifehacker

To participate you need to have an account on Shift Project's Ryver Chat (sign-up) and subscribe to Hacker Quest forum.

Good projects, the team is also wonderful, I wonder if the project will work its way on, or is it all, his work is over?