Topic: [ANN][SILKCOIN][DARKSILK PREANN][TESTING STORMNODES/DarkSIlk MARKET/I2P] - page 178. (Read 289509 times)

  Who are the heads of nxt? Are you talking about the guy that recently ran off with everyones money after the world payexpo?
   
     Imo no one should be given title. This creates a means to the end. No one should be given any definitive control of public funds. 
  For example no one escrow controls more then 25 % of public funds.
   Each development department can have a lead for each task in the department.    Which is primal human nature.  If someone does a better job, then that job should be superceded.
 
      Who is the CEO of bitcoin?

  Is this the bitcoin foundation? Are they responsible for all development?  If something goes wrong with your bitcoin will you contact the bitcoin foundation to find a solution?
  Maybe this is true.  I do not know.

 Everyone wants a scapegoat.   The key a community running itself is technology.

   Build systems and implement tech for the community to be self sufficient. 

   Imo asking for a ceo or a definitive leader is asking for one day the head to be cut off. It spells destruction.

   Not for smaller coins.  I am talking for a movement to exist.  A true movement.   One where no leader removed can destroy the system.
   
   I think technology can organize this.

 
   Autononmous voting, management and accounting system.

The voting pays for the upkeep of the system leaving us free to choose the direction, and free to become involved based on our active contribution alone.

 CEOs of cryptocurrencies to me personally wreaks of bullshit scams, insider trading, market manipulation and lies.

  Instead of CEO human.   Lets build CEO program. That will die without humans tending to it.

  My 2 cents

Community projects have a lot of problems in the current practiced forms shown in cryptos that i have seen and experienced.

If we elect a CEO to handle all of the projects we would know exactly what the problem is if something goes wrong. We could then replace the CEO with another one, or pressure him/her to fix the problem. In a community project people can think things are getting done when they really aren't and lose lots of valuable time and never know how to fix the problem because no one is accountable.

In a community project everyone needs to work not for money but because everyone believes the same thing and has the same goal.

 I'm not saying a community project cant work, I just haven't seen it implemented to work yet myself. Nxt has a great community but responsibility stays with the Heads in charge. A community project is only as strong as the people who hold the CEO accountable. This is my conclusion thesis.


A Video to Inspire Everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sioZd3AxmnE

Shit happens and there are a ton of assholes out there. Thank you for all of your efforts and support.  I think it will pay off for everyone

Sounds good.  I will send to escrow.  I have donated approx 300k sc to the active developers (forcibly lol) to keep the project moving forward on massively updated client pending release.

   I was hoping to keep all the community funds built up in the escrow until the next phase where we release voting.  As you all.will have to decide what is to be done with the silk voting pool for future development.

   Scrippted is still working hard on the in wallet voting and should be scheduled for release in the client following the pending release.

   Once again i apologize for my mistake in trusting random 3rd party services with public funds.  This will never happen again without extensive security testing.

   New dice game, explorer and faucet enroute.  (-;
  
    
  

arteleis, You don´t need to refund my donation. Send to the devs ok

Status: 1825 confirmations, broadcast through 9 node(s)
Date: 16/07/2014 12:49
To: BFys4ytvfurjW4yxHngECp2h8Fh7UoGi3W
Debit: -2500.00 SC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 SC
Net amount: -2500.0001 SC
Transaction ID: d0404f4518465ce63f3f45e791fe2f6ef25e112ce21f552e3190caeb5c4cad27

I'm sorry to hear that happen.
Hope the coins will be returned.

Cant wait on the big rally when the wallet gets released:-)) My fingers are ready to overload the trollbox

It appears faucet has been robbed.  

The builder forgot to encrypt.   He will send me back btc paid to build dice game, and stolen silk.

 He is very sorry and i believe has taken the honorable route to pay back the losses and cost for the build.

  Moving forward, dice game and faucet will be pulled down.  I will refund donors.  Please post what you donated including your txid and sc address and i will send back to you.

   Believe beyond my donations which was the majority there is approx 13k silk to be refunded to donors.  

  If in the event that this was not just a random theft and an attempt to prove the poor security of the faucet, whoever has taken the silk perhaps has earned themselves a security bounty..?
   Please return the stolen silk to the escrow address post or pm if you feel the need to discuss further.

   I do apologize for trusting a random invite for a service build and if anyone has security expertise to test new service builds please pm me to test security on all new service builds before release.
   Unfortunately everyone in the dev team was focused on the completion of the client and we only did quick testing on faucet.  It would not have been thought that a build would not have been encrypted..
   i apologize for the results but will obviously refund donors personally as stated.

5k send yesterday
Transaction ID: 562c90d605fe14e124cd3d34cb9608ee8075d7c37c243d6bbd1401d3c372f48b

Can we post the bounties directly on the ANN?  There's a link to Ben's bounties but maybe posting the list directly on the main page would make it a little more visible.

Also please note, it appears the funding for previous silk explorer has ended as anticipated.  I have placed an abe explorer in the ann for now.
  We are searching for a developer to design a properly branded and complex block explorer perhaps similar to the previous and/or uniquely innovative.

  Please use http://silk.stakecoins.info/ for now.
  I will update all links to donations and escrows etc tomorrow to reflect this change.

Also bitcoinasaurus are you in the google chat thread? Definitely should be there.   Add hanzlambrecht@gmail to gchat mobile or google+ and i will add you to main thread.
    The thread in gchat is well beyond triple.the size of this bct forum.

  There are multiple layers of organization and tasking  already in play, im sorry if that hasnt been expressed properly in bct. But will keep posting invites.  There is much much more to see other then bct..  (-;

 Got the emails. Responded.  Lets get this multipool started.  More interested miners by the day..

   As far as denominated leaders go? Do we need titles? What is the need for this? Best revolution is leaderless. Everyone becomes leaders based on a common vision. 
   We use technology and the systems implemented to become the leader to direct us.  The voting system is meant to become autonomous and give direct control to the community.
  I am only relaying thoughts, ideas and skills to the appropriate organizational needs. 

  Presently there are nearly 20 people working on this project in various forms and means.  It may be difficult to label each ones position?

  Also in otherwords,
  You give a lion a man, he will surely bite his head off.   You give the lion an army of man,  and he will tuck his tail and run away. 
   
 
 

    Previous investors in silk, quite possibly as mentioned will be looking for exits when price is right, so we need to have a solid base of new investors and spread the currency as vastly as possible while implementing payment integrations while previous investors possibly exit.

  When the new version is released, and then when the voting system is implemented, it will be interesting to see how the market reflects this.  

   Personally i will avoid talking about price any further but will continue my efforts to help organize the ultimate advancement of silk.
  
  We have a long exciting road ahead of us.. havent even left the bazaar yet.  
    
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Yes, agreed. I look at it the same way. Right now I am not driven or even care what the price is. Once we have our foundation built, price will come with our sincere efforts to make this coin the one of few essential coins to have in your portfolio. Or should I make a new word here and call it "Cryptolio".......hmmmmm.

Yes check email. Just sent info about mobile wallets. Making progress.

mmm silkcoin multi pool  

hanz check your mail.


We need to setup a poll for Coin manager and a few staff members. Then label them as such.  I feel like we're a a bit scatter brain right now, lets reign it in a bit?

I will put it out there that arteleis should be the manager. Though a few other members are really stepping up to the plate imo.

I think regular pump and dumps are okay.   It is neceasary for any coin to be lucrative on the exchanges.  But pump groups with paid trolls and incessant lies to destroy price to buy in very low and pump high.. insider trading and all the other shit.. what i was talking about.
    Traders are as necessary a part of the ecosystem as is the development of the coin.  But is there such thing as an honest pump?
   Maybe as long as all development is not included? For example a fellow i gchat was wondering when we would be completed the new wallet not for excitement of project, but to know when to buy cheapest.  
    The one thing that none of the development team has talked about is price. The focus is on the development.  Mixing planned releases with pump groups, sockpuppets, paid trolls, regular trolls etc has been the evolution of trading..  and is beginning to cross the line and destroy otherwise useful technologies as less then thick skinned devs and communities crumple under the pressure.  
  This does not advance crypto, but hurts investors and limits technology growth.  
   It is a shrewd game this crypto.  But there has to be a limit and a proper way to pump without sacrificing ethics and evolution as an entire industry as i believe it is meant to be unified.
     Im not sure what the answer is here.  An honest crypto will have a difficult time achieving rock star status in short term wthout crude unethical tactics,  but through persistance and skill will achieve long term price goals.
    Previous investors in silk, quite possibly as mentioned will be looking for exits when price is right, so we need to have a solid base of new investors and spread the currency as vastly as possible while implementing payment integrations while previous investors possibly exit.

  When the new version is released, and then when the voting system is implemented, it will be interesting to see how the market reflects this.  

   Personally i will avoid talking about price any further but will continue my efforts to help organize the ultimate advancement of silk.
  
  We have a long exciting road ahead of us.. havent even left the bazaar yet.  
    

Do not worry community. Things moving along and we should start to pick up speed here soon enough. This part of the process/rebuild is most critical and always will take a fair amount of time if you want it done correctly. We are doing it correctly and it will show. Smile and be happy that you have a wallet with Silk in it!

quantum I really do not know what you want. Tired of seeing you making marketing for the sc on Polo trollbox and when asked about the people involved you stated that they were honest and now doubt the work of the community?

agree 100%

We need long term coins.  There are too many pump and dumps on the market and more and more released every day.  There's a problem though.  Even a long term coin is going to get pumped and dumped.  Unfortunately that's just the way it is right now.  The dev and the community should focus on the product, features, advancements, advertisements, etc.. Not the markets or the price.  It's hard but community threads where every other reply is about the current price will turn investors away. 

The only way to break through the manipulation that causes a pump and dump coin is to get the coins spread out in more hands.  With more people in control of the coins, it becomes harder to manipulate the price.  Unfortunately, with the current price, consolidation has been pretty easy.  You can multiply your holding with pennies on the dollar.  Expect to have several cycles of pumping and dumping as the coin gets relaunched.

We need the marketplace.  We need a real world use for the coin.  This is the only way to market the coin and get it in the hands of more people. Without a marketplace, without the real world use, I do not see this coin being anything but what it is now.