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Topic: [ANN][STD] StandardCoin - BUILT-IN EXCHANGE - Permanently Rising Rate - page 4. (Read 25397 times)

sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Any news on the STD multipool?
I'm already warming up my gridseeds.
Still working hard on it Smiley

Any other plans to make a good supportive community?

Also why arent there more investors?
I can't tell you why there are no more investors. Maybe people can't understand the system yet. I think I didn't make my words clear since English is not my native language, it would be great if someone can help me rewrite the documents and make a white paper.
But honestly, I don't think many bitcoin users can understand the bitcoin the protocol clearly. They just use it because it works.

There are about 200 altcoins and not enough investors to go round.  Only the strong coins will survive, unfortunately there are new ones every minute!
So I guess StandardCoin may survive because it has a strong back up built-in exchange.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Any news on the STD multipool?
I'm already warming up my gridseeds.
Still working hard on it Smiley

Any other plans to make a good supportive community?

Also why arent there more investors?
I can't tell you why there are no more investors. Maybe people can't understand the system yet. I think I didn't make my words clear since English is not my native language, it would be great if someone can help me rewrite the documents and make a white paper.
But honestly, I don't think many bitcoin users can understand the bitcoin the protocol clearly. They just use it because it works.

There are about 200 altcoins and not enough investors to go round.  Only the strong coins will survive, unfortunately there are new ones every minute!
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Any news on the STD multipool?
I'm already warming up my gridseeds.
Still working hard on it Smiley

Any other plans to make a good supportive community?

Also why arent there more investors?
I can't tell you why there are no more investors. Maybe people can't understand the system yet. I think I didn't make my words clear since English is not my native language, it would be great if someone can help me rewrite the documents and make a white paper.
But honestly, I don't think many bitcoin users can understand the bitcoin the protocol clearly. They just use it because it works.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Cannot believe this conversation is still ongoing. Dev you should a made a moderated thread this is absolutely ridiculous. Guys remember this always, winning on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded. Let...it...rest...
I don't think a moderated thread is fair for everyone. Just ignore the kids that can't learn to do math and everything is fine like I did with ghibly.
There is an ignore button under the username, just press it.
I ignored ghibly after I told him to learn math and he gave me a negative review for that.
I know exactly how the system work, I know it's good. And soon, people will realize it. They just need time. There is no rush at this point. A single negative feedback from a kid can't do any harm to the system.

Someone needs to give ghibly some negative trust, since he ABUSED the feedback system by pretending he'd traded with you when he hadn't (which amounts to FRAUD), but the feedback system on this site is crap so hardly anybody gets a vote.  He needs his childish ego deflated.  Imagine if a newspaper printed an outright lie?  They'd be in serious trouble.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1006
Crypto entrepreneur and consultant
Cannot believe this conversation is still ongoing. Dev you should a made a moderated thread this is absolutely ridiculous. Guys remember this always, winning on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded. Let...it...rest...
I don't think a moderated thread is fair for everyone. Just ignore the kids that can't learn to do math and everything is fine like I did with ghibly.
There is an ignore button under the username, just press it.
I ignored ghibly after I told him to learn math and he gave me a negative review for that.
I know exactly how the system work, I know it's good. And soon, people will realize it. They just need time. There is no rush at this point. A single negative feedback from a kid can't do any harm to the system.

Get lost retarded scammer, your problem is the opposite: that somebody can do the math.

I know exactly how the system work, I know it's good.

Yep, you forgot to add the "for me" part.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Any news on the STD multipool?
I'm already warming up my gridseeds.
Still working hard on it Smiley

Any other plans to make a good supportive community?

Also why arent there more investors?
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Cannot believe this conversation is still ongoing. Dev you should a made a moderated thread this is absolutely ridiculous. Guys remember this always, winning on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded. Let...it...rest...
I don't think a moderated thread is fair for everyone. Just ignore the kids that can't learn to do math and everything is fine like I did with ghibly.
There is an ignore button under the username, just press it.
I ignored ghibly after I told him to learn math and he gave me a negative review for that.
I know exactly how the system work, I know it's good. And soon, people will realize it. They just need time. There is no rush at this point. A single negative feedback from a kid can't do any harm to the system.
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
Any news on the STD multipool?
I'm already warming up my gridseeds.
Still working hard on it Smiley
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Cannot believe this conversation is still ongoing. Dev you should a made a moderated thread this is absolutely ridiculous. Guys remember this always, winning on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded. Let...it...rest...

Agreed.  I don't know what ghibly's saying as he's blocked, but I can see a lot of messages marked as blocked.  He's not STILL going on is he?  I was in danger of falling asleep at my desk reading his inane drivel.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1006
Crypto entrepreneur and consultant
I will gladly Krypto but they keep attacking me directly. Hope I cleared my position once and for all, even wrote to Jomay in pm (the only one which is at least reading) to continue there if there is the need and not in the main thread.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Cannot believe this conversation is still ongoing. Dev you should a made a moderated thread this is absolutely ridiculous. Guys remember this always, winning on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded. Let...it...rest...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Any news on the STD multipool?
I'm already warming up my gridseeds.

Do you know of any ASICS that do better than a Radeon R9 290 at scrypt?
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1006
Crypto entrepreneur and consultant
And before I forget: the "anti pump & dump" part is also false. You can pump and dump just fine at exchanges, you will just pump the price over ger and then dump back at ger, just not to zero.
As a side note Wink
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
It is not difficult. Just click on the word "trust" below username TheRealStandard.
On this trust page scroll down, enter the risked amount of BTC, enter your comment and click submit.
That is all.

Which has bugger all effect unless you are a chosen one.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1006
Crypto entrepreneur and consultant
Also edited my previous reply, removing the last line where I stated new investors selling back before the others will get 375 or 500 btc: it was wrong, I was thinking about 400 mil std instead of 200 mil. They'll always get 250 btc back unless some more new investors come buying again dumped STD (dumped by miners and/or ipoers thus rising GER).
Main argument still valid, but for the sake of precision.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1006
Crypto entrepreneur and consultant
Ok Jomay, as usual, yes you are right on the sophistic detail that the wording is right: "there will be enough btc to buy back at ger". In fact in my example, in the "new investors sell last" scenario, they own 200 mil STD at 125 satoshi ger and they'll sell back for 250 btc.

Main problem is, like you yourself are agreeing upon, they invested 400 so they are losing money. Or someone else will be in their stead if you swap last sellers around.

So, the fact is that the very reason to create a coin like this and wording the announcement like that is to suggest to investors they will at least be able to recover initial investment. Everything is arranged for that. Newbies and naives trap.

You are insisting over and over on language details, maybe for the sake of not losing the flame when you understood exactly what I meant and the scheme is evident. This coupled with the fact he'll be holding investors btc in his hands (while stating otherwise, now that I notice:

"Nobody is depositing anything. The exchange works like this:
If you are a buyer, you only need to enter your STD address to the exchange, a BTC address associated with that STD address is generated. You send BTC to that address and a calculated amount of STD will be sent to your STD address automatically.
And if you are a seller, you will have to enter your BTC address to the exchange, a STD address associated with that BTC address is generated. You send STD to that address and you will receive BTC to your BTC address at the GER.
")

 is more than enough for the big fat warning.

As you can see I'm not dragging arguments on emotional waves. Hope I've made it clear once and for all now.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Any news on the STD multipool?
I'm already warming up my gridseeds.
full member
Activity: 167
Merit: 100
And so on, swap last sellers as you please and someone will lose money (dev will probably run with all 500 but ok, that's an assumption.
You'd have to be incredibly stupid to think otherwise.
Edit - maybe I'm on to something here?
full member
Activity: 167
Merit: 100
And it's true there won't be enough btc to buy back at ger all std because:

100 btc ipo thus ger= 100/400mil=25 sat. New investors come and buy 200 more millions at ssp=4*100/200mil = 400 btc. Amc is now 500 btc and ger = 500/400mil= 125 sat. Miners mine 100 mil and get 125 btc. Dev down to 375 btc. Ipo investors sell back 100 mil for another 125, dev down to 250. New investors want to sell back but OH only 250 btc left, they lost 150.
Even if miners come after, new investors will get only 375 back out of 400. Or if they sell before ipoers, they'll get 400*125=500 btc and ipoers and miners will be screwed.

And so on, swap last sellers as you please and someone will lose money (dev will probably run with all 500 but ok, that's an assumption.
Mathematically spoken, softened for Troll-sized brains:
  • GER = (total amount of BTC deposited) / (maximum number of STD). The BTC stored are exactly sufficient to pay GER for every STD currently existing or mined in the future.
  • GER is monotonously increasing because the exchange sells STD for a price much larger than GER. (I believe that there are some subtleties regarding the multi-pool and hope the dev took care of them!)

Now, let's take your post apart. You realize that you contradict yourself. But you don't care because you Troll.

Your first and wrong statement "And it's true there won't be enough btc to buy back at ger all std" is a direct contradiction to your proof and second paragraph. All miners, IPO and later investors get GER for their STD in your example. So everybody gets the promised GER rate for their STD.

Obviously someone has gotten back less BTC than they had originally paid and effectively net a loss. The GER is a lower bound for the price, not a guarantee that you cannot lose. You'd have to be incredibly stupid to think otherwise.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1006
Crypto entrepreneur and consultant

Heck you don't even need to do the math, just use some logic: if you took X amount of btc during a period of time (this includes old and new investors. Just all the btc coming in, any source) and gave something in return (STD in this case), how can you pay back MORE btc when what you gave increased its value (since it CANNOT DROP by design) and people sell back all of it?
It all works out for Standardcoin because its exchange pays back LESS BTC than what it got in the first place.


THUS people get less btc back, THUS someone is losing money. GENIUS.

Everyone loses money in crypto world.  Wink

But no one guarantees you won't lose with legit cryptos (repeating myself ^^''').
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