Topic: [ANN][SUPERCOIN]First P2p Decentralized Trustless Anonymous Wallet Coming Soon - page 404. (Read 473526 times)
June 14, 2014, 05:55:29 PM
Seriously, Abinito is spamming the same comments over and over again.
June 14, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin. Here is why: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-poloniex-has-rejected-supercoin-652351
lmao, this is a complete joke, if this is done by poloniex tech staff, I feel really sorry to them
Here is a reply from a forum member (timerland) to that accusation:
Quote
Is this an amateur or a 10-years-old? The max coin limits the maximum coin, but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all. The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:
- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()
These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()
These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
This member stated the fact. These 3 functions determined how many coins will be generated. The MAX_MONEY is largely irrelavent. All it does (and the dAmount), is to check each transaction if this limit exceeded.
I can't believe this, it's like a circus
Yes, and also you can set the upper limit to be 10000000000000000000 trillion, but only generate 15 millions, is there a problem there? someone is completely idiot.
If you want to know how many coins will be generated, look at the functions generating them, not the limit. Idiot!
June 14, 2014, 05:51:05 PM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin. Here is why: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-poloniex-has-rejected-supercoin-652351
lmao, this is a complete joke, if this is done by poloniex tech staff, I feel really sorry to them
Here is a reply from a forum member (timerland) to that accusation:
Quote
Is this an amateur or a 10-years-old? The max coin limits the maximum coin, but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all. The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:
- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()
These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()
These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
This member stated the fact. These 3 functions determined how many coins will be generated. The MAX_MONEY is largely irrelavent. All it does (and the dAmount), is to check each transaction if this limit exceeded.
I can't believe this, it's like a circus
June 14, 2014, 05:50:55 PM
MAX_MONEY in main.h is normal and allows for pos minting?
Okay they maybe forgot to change in the main.h file but the
code below in the bitcoinrpc.cpp busoni posted
Line 99
Super:
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L99
Honor:
Why change MAX_MONEY and hardcode when it's set
in the main.h file?
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38
Did I say I'm not listing it because it was cloned?
jakiman said that the value may have been leftover from the old SUPER coin. I am saying that is not very likely, because this coin was cloned from Honorcoin, not the old SUPER coin. See bitcoinrpc.cpp of Honorcoin and (new) SuperCoin side by side: http://www.diffchecker.com/j8xl540o
Okay they maybe forgot to change in the main.h file but the
code below in the bitcoinrpc.cpp busoni posted
Line 99
Super:
Code:
99 if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L99
Honor:
Code:
99 if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > MAX_MONEY)
Why change MAX_MONEY and hardcode when it's set
in the main.h file?
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38
Did I say I'm not listing it because it was cloned?
jakiman said that the value may have been leftover from the old SUPER coin. I am saying that is not very likely, because this coin was cloned from Honorcoin, not the old SUPER coin. See bitcoinrpc.cpp of Honorcoin and (new) SuperCoin side by side: http://www.diffchecker.com/j8xl540o
This gets better and better.
June 14, 2014, 05:50:11 PM
if super coin is a scam so is cinni coin and silk coin
I'm gonna repeat this again so people don't get the wrong idea:
My post was not meant to imply that Silkcoin and Cinni are also scams. There's zero reason to believe SC or Cinni are scams, I was just pointing out that other, more trusted coins have the same MAX_MONEY "issue" that SUPER does.
sense of humor. lol
now POLO are frustrated with all complaints.
they are totally in a big mess.
June 14, 2014, 05:49:05 PM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin. Here is why: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-poloniex-has-rejected-supercoin-652351
Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin
Today at 08:20:32 PM
Reply with quote #1
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin because of some disturbing things we turned up in our code review. I would like to draw your attention to this part of the ANN post:
Quote
- Total PoW coins will be 18.2 millions.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.
And these parts of the source code:
Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)
Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;
MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.
We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.
We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.
POLONIEX are retarded , its obvious and clear.
should have waited several confirmations of expert developers before to launch the FUD News
June 14, 2014, 05:48:57 PM
MAX_MONEY in main.h is normal and allows for pos minting?
Okay they maybe forgot to change in the main.h file but the
code below in the bitcoinrpc.cpp busoni posted
Line 99
Super:
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L99
Honor:
Why change MAX_MONEY and hardcode when it's set
in the main.h file?
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38
Did I say I'm not listing it because it was cloned?
jakiman said that the value may have been leftover from the old SUPER coin. I am saying that is not very likely, because this coin was cloned from Honorcoin, not the old SUPER coin. See bitcoinrpc.cpp of Honorcoin and (new) SuperCoin side by side: http://www.diffchecker.com/j8xl540o
Okay they maybe forgot to change in the main.h file but the
code below in the bitcoinrpc.cpp busoni posted
Line 99
Super:
Code:
99 if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L99
Honor:
Code:
99 if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > MAX_MONEY)
Why change MAX_MONEY and hardcode when it's set
in the main.h file?
https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38
Did I say I'm not listing it because it was cloned?
jakiman said that the value may have been leftover from the old SUPER coin. I am saying that is not very likely, because this coin was cloned from Honorcoin, not the old SUPER coin. See bitcoinrpc.cpp of Honorcoin and (new) SuperCoin side by side: http://www.diffchecker.com/j8xl540o
June 14, 2014, 05:46:11 PM
Here is a Simple a analysis on Supercoin reasonable price after Anon wallet release
Until now, only Dark coin and XC coin has some Anon features
Darkcoin has a worked mixer but also some problem with their master node
XC coin has a test net mixer and do not worked Anon wallet yet, they will have a version2.0 two weeks later.
Vericoin do not have a Anon wallet, they only have a development plan
Supercoin has a Anon wallet on testnet.
Dark coin Current total supply is 4.3 Million, the Price is 1.7 Million Satoshi/11$
XC coin Current total supply is 5.5 Million, the Price is 130K Satoshi/0.84$
Vericoin Current total supply is 26 Million, the Price is 15K Satoshi/0.1$
Supercoin Current total supply is 10 Million, the Price is 3K?
/0.018$???
personally i think we have done much work on Anon features than Vericoin
so the reasonable Supercoin price at least hit 15K*2.6=37.5K Satoshi
if we compared with XC coin, the reasonable price will hit 60K Satoshi.
now the Current Supercoin price is only 3K Satoshi.
so what are we waiting for???.
Until now, only Dark coin and XC coin has some Anon features
Darkcoin has a worked mixer but also some problem with their master node
XC coin has a test net mixer and do not worked Anon wallet yet, they will have a version2.0 two weeks later.
Vericoin do not have a Anon wallet, they only have a development plan
Supercoin has a Anon wallet on testnet.
Dark coin Current total supply is 4.3 Million, the Price is 1.7 Million Satoshi/11$
XC coin Current total supply is 5.5 Million, the Price is 130K Satoshi/0.84$
Vericoin Current total supply is 26 Million, the Price is 15K Satoshi/0.1$
Supercoin Current total supply is 10 Million, the Price is 3K?
/0.018$???personally i think we have done much work on Anon features than Vericoin
so the reasonable Supercoin price at least hit 15K*2.6=37.5K Satoshi
if we compared with XC coin, the reasonable price will hit 60K Satoshi.
now the Current Supercoin price is only 3K Satoshi.
so what are we waiting for???.
+1
thank you for your support!
June 14, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out
dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.
he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.
If the dev is in Asia, it's still early morning there. (6:40am)
He released the anon wallet before going to sleep AFAICS.
He'll soon wake up to this exciting thread I assume.
June 14, 2014, 05:45:54 PM
if super coin is a scam so is cinni coin and silk coin
I'm gonna repeat this again so people don't get the wrong idea:
My post was not meant to imply that Silkcoin and Cinni are also scams. There's zero reason to believe SC or Cinni are scams, I was just pointing out that other, more trusted coins have the same MAX_MONEY "issue" that SUPER does.
June 14, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin because of some disturbing things we turned up in our code review. I would like to draw your attention to this part of the ANN post:
And these parts of the source code:
MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.
We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.
We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.
Quote
- Total PoW coins will be 18.2 millions.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.
And these parts of the source code:
Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)
Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;
MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.
We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.
We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.
Is this an amateur or a 10-years-old? The max coin limits the maximum coin, but does it mean the maximum coin will be generated?? Not at all. The generated coin depends on the formula in 3functions:
- GetProofOfWorkReward()
- GetProofOfStakeReward()
and
- GetProofOfWorkBonusRewardFactor()
These functions define how many coins will be generated. Moreover, even the system generates more coins than the MAX_MONEY defined above, there will be no problem at all, go look at the code. If Poloniex tech staff is that dumb, I feel very sorry for them, it is a joke!
June 14, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
1 ask mintpal add supercoin directly on mintpal
send email to [email protected]
such as
hi
mintpal
Please add Another Anon coin- supercoin directly on mintpal, they have some big volume on bittrex.
if you add it on mintpal, i do believe that's will bring big volume on mintpal.
Because so far only Dark XC and Supercoin has worked mixer and Anon features.
Please add it directly, thanks
Supercoin Ann post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annsupercoinfirst-p2p-decentralized-trustless-anonymous-wallet-coming-soon-618552
Anon features: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7244842
Big volume on bittrex: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SUPER
Add it Please!
2 Ask biggest Chinese altcoin exchange platform add supercoin on Bter!
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
send email to [email protected]
such as
hi
mintpal
Please add Another Anon coin- supercoin directly on mintpal, they have some big volume on bittrex.
if you add it on mintpal, i do believe that's will bring big volume on mintpal.
Because so far only Dark XC and Supercoin has worked mixer and Anon features.
Please add it directly, thanks
Supercoin Ann post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annsupercoinfirst-p2p-decentralized-trustless-anonymous-wallet-coming-soon-618552
Anon features: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7244842
Big volume on bittrex: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SUPER
Add it Please!
2 Ask biggest Chinese altcoin exchange platform add supercoin on Bter!
http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
still works. let's do something good for community.
Send Emails guys, more exchanges can prevent multipool's big dump.
June 14, 2014, 05:44:03 PM
ATTENTION!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7314930
POLO is going to review CINNI and SC.
DUMP them before too late
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7314930
POLO is going to review CINNI and SC.
DUMP them before too late
June 14, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7273647
Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7266883
To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.
busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7273647
Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7266883
To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.
busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.
Re: Why Poloniex Has Rejected SuperCoin
Today at 10:22:21 PM
Reply with quote #84
Quote from: doch on Today at 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: Spoetnik on Today at 10:10:28 PM
diversion tactics won't work guys Roll Eyes
classic.. YOU get caught so you attempt to discredit the guy that caught you.
Oh internet your so creative ahahha
Do you guys think you just invented the cover up technique or something ?
yeah.. bam.... puuuuuhleeeeze lol
I'm not affiliated with SUPER in any way and have never bought or mined SUPER, I just thought people should know how completely and utterly wrong Poloniex is here.
but he's not.. what you just said is not true.
for one thing the exchange can pick and choose what ever coins they want to add.. they are not obligated to add any of them.
so how can he be wrong on that point ?
and on the other major point.. what he said is verified .. i checked it myself and he is 100% dead on about it.
It's been explained..
so i have no choice but to believe you and others are lying and playing games now to cover up the truth.
And the truth is he found a contradiction that looks fishy.
And that IS the truth.
if i have to choose one or the other to believe i believe Poloniex staff not the anon cloner..
and i can tell you all i too have no Super coins etc and if i did i would still say the same thing anyway.. truth is truth .
Suck it up..
for the good of our scene please lol
Quit being lying manipulative game playing scammers invested scam coins defending them.. you make ALL of us look bad Angry
Go pop 2 bars, buy back in higher than your selling point, and then finally stfu
June 14, 2014, 05:42:35 PM
if super coin is a scam so is cinni coin and silk coin
June 14, 2014, 05:40:18 PM
Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7273647
Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7266883
To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.
busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7273647
Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7266883
To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.
busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.
June 14, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:
Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million
Great, let's check the code:
Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!
Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000
Hmm...
I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.
Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?
Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million
Great, let's check the code:
Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;
Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!
Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000
Hmm...
Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;
I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.
Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?
We have recently raised our reviewing standards to look for more than just trojans and security exploits. SC and CINNI were not subjected to that kind of scrutiny. We will investigate them, though. And if it turns out that they are like SuperCoin and deliberately inserted those values, then we might have a problem. I cannot comment on them at this point, since we have not looked over the code yet for things like this.
We are attempting to raise the bar on the quality of the coins we list. We are well aware that this stance will be met with some opposition, particularly when a popular coin is rejected, but we are willing to take the heat for that. The idle pursuit of volume was never the intention behind Poloniex.
LMAO
June 14, 2014, 05:38:25 PM
Indeed ... THAT answer makes me happy I got out
June 14, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out
dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.
he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.
Hmmm.....
June 14, 2014, 05:36:25 PM
we need a official response from dev and someone reliable, until then im out
dev is offline now, he may solve this problem when he online.
he may too tired to release the Anon Wallet.
Dumped all your coins?
Or you are the mysterious dev?
The truth has come out guy
why i dump all my coins when i know the price will hit at least10k satoshi in few days?
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