Topic: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com is now the official pool of Tagcoin! - page 28. (Read 45656 times)

OK... I will tackle the reply to Fuse then discuss .bat file with Vesper...

Fuse,

I agree with everything you wrote and that is why I am still mining TAG and plan to be for a long time going forward. You are right, I do not fully understand Mark's business, plans or models as I have not studied it in-depth, instead I am sitting on the side-lines listening and watching.  Irregardless, I am very confident that TAG is going to be a solid coin to mine and bank on for the next year or more.

An exchange is absolutely essential, starting today, I am going to be selling a substantial amount of the TAG that I mine and I really do not like using cryptsy or any other exchange. So I am hoping that Mark and the team make this a priority when they come back after the New Year.

As much as I like TAG, our market for the farm is going to be significantly more receptive to EarthCoin than TAG, so EAC will be focus as we implement alt-currency into our systems.

TAG is a great coin to mine, it seems to have stabilised and is boring enough that the masses are not chasing it, so making TAG mining predictable and profitable. Unlike EAC which is completely not worth the effort to mine at the moment, at least in my opinion.

Yeah... so TAG is a great coin for us miners... keep digging.

Another subject... I am hoping that LeftToeCut gets back soon as I want to move back to TAGMining... I am currently throwing 6Mh/s at TAG.cryptopool.IT to keep it alive.

I'll take a stab at these 2 key points:

a. The thing I think we overlook with Tagcoin is that the business model is already up and running.  Businesses are already using it, and people are slowly adopting the rewards system.  In my correspondences with Mark, he has hinted at expansion plans.  I can't go into that any further, but he has plans  .  So I think we'll see a nice steady growth of the system, and a long term economic model we can bank on... whether we're miners or rewards users.  I think you'll see things come out of Tagcoin far beyond what Mark is projecting for the next year.

b. I think we need to start thinking about the regional currency that this system is targeted at right now.  If you take the business model that Mark is shooting for- 1TAG = 80PHP-100PHP, you're looking at a conversion at about $1.80-2.25.  This is the buy/sell spread he is going to shoot for with his internal exchange.  I think if we were to focus on one thing that needs to be pushed for, it's the exchange.  Lets be honest, ATM our main exchange is Cryptsy.  There is BTER and Coinex, but try selling or buying more than 100TAG without moving the prices +/- 300% of where they are at.  I think once the exchange is properly operational, with the direct retailer buy options(where we can sell direct to the businesses), we'll see a better exchange rate for the coin.  I'll take a coin that I can mine for a year knowing that it will be a consistent rate all year.  I know almost everybody in crypto is about the big swing trades and wins, but I can see TAG being a long term solution for miners who like stability.



+1, and exactly how I feel about the stability.

But as far as using TAG on the farm, I think I look at Tag a little bit differently.  Why not use Tagbond, and tagverts, to offer your buyers rewards on what they buy?  Maybe if they buy X amount of veggies you give them X amount of TAG, but if they use Earthcoin to buy the same veggies they get 2X the amount of TAG.  Or maybe its a buy 10 with Earthcoin get one free, or whatever.  All of which is easily trackable through the Tagvert system.  You could even use RFID cards, like the TAG cards I have, to make it easier to track these rewards.  They don't even need to be the official Tagbond cards, you could have them branded for the farm, as well as with Earthcoin, and give them out as the farm's rewards card. 

I think we need to look further than just the coin, and really focus on the rewards system that the coin is backing.

24Kilo, if you believe Earthcoin is going to be successful, and widely used, maybe it's worth asking Mark to include it in the internal exchange.  Then you could easily exchange TAG for Earthcoin or fiat once the exchange is live.

For all your batch files: Leave the shaders flag off, as you should only use it or thread-concurrency but not both (using TC overrides shaders).  I would remove temp-target as you're specifying 100% fans, so there's no need for a target.

For my scrypt kernel file: Try changing your gpu_engine to 1000, also try 1100, (and steps inbetween by factor of 15, 1015, 1030, etc) as those two are the stock clocks for the gigabyte. I'm hoping that works for you.

I would also play around with the scan-time flag, maybe upping it (unless forums have directed you otherwise with that card). I go with the default 60, I'm not sure if going up or down will provide any benefit, but once you have a stable hashrate it can't hurt to experiment a little.


You don't need a powered riser. It won't hurt to have one, but in my experience there's no use for one. I believe BitcoinExpress has the same opinion. These systems are designed to draw the majority of their current through the PCIE power jacks. The PCIE-cable-provided power is for the logic controls.


Yes you can use a 1x just fine. For the purposes of mining, these systems only use the 1x factor for data transmission. I have a couple of 1x-16x extensions and they're working fine.


For longevity definitely go for anything 1100watts or above for 3 (1200+ ideal), or at minimum, 1050watts if the 12v rail is 29-30amps (per gpu).

For my R9 280x test rig, I have a 1050watt delivering around 27amps per GPU, running 2 MSI and 1 Toxic R9, and it's definitely  being maxed out. I just ordered some 1100watt PSUs to try out, they deliver 30amps per GPU (more current on the PCIE than the one I have). The important part is making sure each GPU can get 300watts of power (25amps), but realistically they draw 325-350 (27-29amps) if you're pushing them hard. 350*3=1050 for just the GPUs, not counting motherboard or other items.

If all else fails I'll mix 2 R9 cards with 1 7950 card and the new 1100w PSU, if I can't run 3 R9 cards on it.


OT, but those veggies look tasty. Makes me want to fly down there and eat some

I'm confident tagbond will get things going, sometime this year. I do still mine other coins however, as my plan is simple: mine anything which comes along and store up some of it, and dump most of the goofy coins while they're valuable (dogecoin for example) to pay for the electric bills.

Because you never know what coin is going to really take off next. This is why I believe altcoins even have value (people trading BTC for Scrypt coins).. everyone wants to have pieces of the pie.

Vesper,

Can I use a PCI-E 1x to 16x riser cable going from a 16x slot to the GPU? The interwebs seem to indicate that I can... can you confirm?

Also power supplies... I am using Antec Truepower Classics 750W for my 2x280X miners... is that enough... thinking that I should move up to 850W PSU... if so what brand and model?

Also thinking of building my first 3x280X rig... what is your preferred PSU?

Thanks!

24Kilo

Exactly what I was trying to say except you managed to say it in 2 lines rather than my 3 paragraphs of waffle!!   

John,

I have to be honest, EarthCoin is going to my coin of choice in the long-term as it fits our business model with the farm much better, but that is not taking anything away from the TAG team and their coin, which I still believe has the most concentrated, focused and funded admin and development team of any coin. TagCoin was born for a purpose, which sets it in a league of it own to begin with.

But... you knew that was coming... the long-term success of TAG depends on Mark and his team setting up a good exchange and supporting the proposed pricing of TAG. If this does not happen, TAG will slowly fade into oblivion as the coin has no real attraction on its own, longer transaction times and very specific name and graphics. I would love to use TAG on the farm, but which works better selling this...



this... or this...

I really like TAG and hope that Mark and the team achieve their goals, which I am quite positive they will, and if so, I am definitely a long-term TAG miner, maybe just not a user. I think TAG will be a steady and consistent earner, not the most profitable or the latest fad, but solid and predictable, a coin that you can take to the bank each week to pay the bills with some profit left over, and that makes TAG my choice of coin to mine for the long-term.

Vesper,

Here is a screenshot of my batch file...




A quick question on riser cables... I need PCI-E 16x to PCI-E 16x... do I need/want powered riser cables?

First up... Fuse, that is soooo cute.  I remember when my daughter was that age, she would have reacted exactly the same!

Business. I was going to post this on the main TAG thread but I thought I'd get a better reply here as we are all pretty dedicated to the coin.  It appears like most newish coins TAG is no longer flavor of the month.  I'm not saying that's a bad thing, quite the reverse actually. Diff and price appeared to have stabilised at around 35-55 diff and 0.00095 BTC price which is generally good enough to keep us digging away without attracting the attention of the multipools.

Personally, I'm making about $150 gross per week (before electricity and amortising equipment costs) with 2.3MH/s at those prices.  Yes, I've had a bit of fun/profit mining the 2 latest hot coins, DOGE and EAC but I think my long term approach is to stick pretty tight to TAG.  I'm working on the theory that Mark (tagbond) is going to:

a. Actually get the business model up and running to his expectations and
b. Get to a steady price point of 1 TAG = $2.00 which he stated was a goal in the main thread.  TAG has already been there briefly a few weeks ago when the Chinese went crazy buying anything and everything and pushing BTC to nearly $1300.00

Do you guys think a and/or b will come to fruition?

 

Go get some rest... it is the holidays... and get well soon!!!

All the feels man, that's cool stuff right there.

Welcome back, mate!  Good to have you around!

My 3yo daughter gave me a late xmas present this weekend.  I've been battling a 102+ temp for the last couple days.  If I don't respond right away to PMs and such, it's because I'm probably passed out.  I swear she breaks my heart though.  She comes up to me, gives me her favorite stuffed animal, a kiss on the forehead, and tells me, "this will make you feel better, daddy."    like a hallmark Christmas commercial.

PSU's and USB sticks on order. Memory already on hand. Still waiting on a motherboard from over a week ago. I'm pretty sure the UPS truck got lost. 3 more motherboards to be shipped tomorrow.

Now if only I had.. GPUs, and.. power. Apparently, these things need something called.. power.

Also, I'm noting that 3 R9 280x cards are definitely bleeding my 1050w PSU dry, running around 2.3mh. It's a lesser brand PSU delivering I believe 81amps on the 12v rail. The new PSUs ordered deliver 90amps on the rail which should do much better.

Fuse,

I have moved 5Mh/s or so back into the pool... seems the TAG.cryptopool.IT may have crashed or hung... been nearly 12 hours since a block which is unusual... so decided to come back home for abit!!!

Good to be back... gets lonely over there!!!

The 79xx series was unlocked, and I believe the R9 series is as well. Game forums / overclock websites would know.


Lol, I am humbled and complimented by that. Like mining, luck plays a large part. Refreshing the screen helps as well. I'm nearly tanked for funds right now, I need to cashout some coins to get some more. I've got some motherboards coming but I need PSU's, and even then, more GPUs.

You can get Toxic 280x cards from newegg right now, limit 2 per customer (each of you could place an order). They're marking up about $100 over MSRP, but that's the price to pay to get hash power right now.

No idea when Amazon will get things back in stock. I'm 1 month waiting for the gigabyte order I placed. Even if they came into stock the order wouldn't go through, I've used the funds already lol..

If it helps any, what I do is make wishlists based on what I want. IE, GPU's, PSU's, etc. Then I edit the wishlist and select 3 or 4 items which I want to focus on, and mark them with highest priority, then I sort the view on that list based on priority. So my target items are on top in quick view. I then set my easy auto refresh to something like 10 or 15 seconds, and just let it refresh constantly. When I see the 'add to cart' button pop up, it usually means the item is in stock, so I load the item and make sure it's Prime and "reasonably priced", then I just 1-click overnight purchase them.

+1 for the info 24Kilo!

I had an interesting conversation with my dad today(FusesDad on the pool).  He asked, "what would it cost to buy 4 more cards?"  I tried to explain to him how even if there were 4 in stock somewhere, we'd probably be limited to 2, or we'd be competing with the quickest click in the west, Vesperwillow.  Vesper, I'm thinking you need to start a service where you buy cards on Amazon and sell them to me at a profit.  I honestly don't think I can compete with your 1-click-buy skills.

Gigabyte GV-R928XOC-3GD-GA Rev 2.0 cards ARE NOT unlocked... or at least I have not found a way to unlock them.

Sapphire Dual-X is unlocked or at least voltage can be changed with MSI Afterburner and Sapphire TRIXX... but cgminer does not seem to be able to adjust the voltage.

Gigabyte GV-R928XOC-3GD Rev 1.0 cards are unlocked and voltage can be controlled by cgminer

I have a MSI Twin-Frozr, but can't remember if the voltage is locked or not.

Which 280x cards are confirmed to be voltage unlocked?  Is it safe to say ALL reference cards are?  Come Jan 1st, I'll (hopefully) be doing the gyft to amazon thing assuming they have something in stock or on short backorder.

I have had great luck with 3.4.x, it provided better results than previous. 3.7.x seems to do well also. 3.5.x gave me issues.


What settings did you use for it? It doesn't always work, but when it does it gives about 20-30kh more.

No sorry mate.  Just got what I need now and for when I add a couple of more cards in the next few weeks.

Vesper,

I have been using 3.6.6... is there a version that is better than the rest?

Also tried your .bin file... crashed my Gigabyte Rev2's.

Will change my fans around and report back.

John,

If you have any spare risers I will be happy to pay you a nice profit margin on a pair or two... let me know.