Topic: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer - page 185. (Read 247332 times)

what would be ideal, is a list of farms who find difficulty in making their running costs - as a community, it would be a good thing if we could somehow, buy up Urea with our Uro, to donate it to farms and farmers who find themselves in difficulty. Correct me if i'm wrong but this seems to be the main purpose of linking this cryptocurrency to the real world product.

Totally agree with you. 

Also, danonthehill has basically confirmed the identity of the dev of this project based on his own research. Personally I don't believe any of the information he has presented is harmful to the project in any way. If anything, it clarifies that these are real companies backing a new form of trade currency, and I think it's going to be interesting to watch.

Until information is presented that confirms this is a scam (where all the information currently is pointing otherwise), I'll be buying. Shit who knows, maybe I'll just grab a bunch of urea and start a farm or some shit. 

I am swaying towards agreeing with you, even though I no longer dabble in alt-coins, I do believe this one has legs, and I wish the development team all the best in their work with it.

I had feelings LTC would take off in October. I had feelings DRK would take off in March. They went much further than anticipated. I got heckled then too.

I have the same feeling about URO. Unfortunate that people are writing this off so quickly, this should be getting oodles of attention, so far just accusations and terrible piss jokes (urea isn't urine?).

I'm willing to have egg on my face if this is dishonest or goes bellyup, but this has the potential to be the biggest thing in crypto yet, and it will make DarkSend and all of this weak innovation/anon coins have spawned seem like a kids' science fair.

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Boy is this tiring.

Needless to say, either way the thing to take away from all of this is that GES is real and has the weight to make it happen.

Let the details come out in the time frame they prefer. Speculate or not, who gives a shit.

Not particularly concerned with price fixing, although i would like it fixed at the subsidized rate for farmers, but that is probably impossible to achieve.

Neither do I care about a conflict of interest, all I care about is that the members of the Uro Foundation are real and accountable. Why not provide an address of all members head offices etc. to disperse fud?

This is not the case of coincidentally being a board member: the GES South Africa address and telephone number correspond, not to VES South Africa, but to Dr Vinny Pillay's own Urea export company Grey Griffin Shipping Solutions in South Africa, which as you have indicated could belong to the Pillay Group.

I am not trying to generate FUD here, like many people I want to believe in this project, but for me there is too much sketchiness regarding the Foundation and the structure of GES.  

I appreciate the fact that you are no longer anonymous.  I knew who you were, but was not looking to dox anyone.  Is this project a GES initiative or your own personal project?

There would be nothing wrong if this was a GES initiative, if it is a large multinational company, this would be seen as a plus, and it obviously has the network capability to export Urea across the globe, so would be perfectly positioned to spearhead such a project.  But it is far better to be completely transparent now to ensure long term success of the project, particularly if it has the potential to help farmers.  

If you are sincere,  I suspect that you have gone about this the wrong way in presenting, as you did initially as the next way to make money, rather than focusing on the beneficial socio-economic impact of a distributed Urea exchange (although you have often refereed to these benefits as one aspect).  I think that the central goal should be to lift farmers in India and other countries out of poverty, and that economic model should be developed to best achieve that.  (Perhaps, it already does, but I don't fully understand it.)  The media attention to such a project would be international and enormous, and bigger than anything you or GES have ever been involved with, as well as being extremely positive for the perception of Bitcoin and economic decentralization.  

It is not necessary to simulate success, when far greater success can be achieved on the merit of the idea alone.

actually, bctalk has an entire section for scam accusations. I'd advise that folks just use that.

danonthehill you are doing some interesting work,
but it would be advantageous if you just posted your information instead of trying to catch true-asset out.

this tedious game of cat and mouse is not really a game at all.
it's just you being tedious . lol

just post whatever you've got in a simple and straight forward format and let the dev reply please

Actually we have been through this issue already.

The domain name was originally registered by another company - this does not have any bearing on the status of GES. Reference always has been made to Green Earth Systems as a Hong Kong company - in fact the company registration details have already been posted on this forum a few pages back: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.msg7213448;topicseen#msg7213448

Here it is again:

 

nothing whatsoever.
long-story-short;
a website was registered by a third party, who have now gone bust.

here's my recommendation to all the amateur P.I.'s - you want the coin, get some, you don't want the coin, don't. 

has the Interview been booked? 

Global company, many employees, many buss.  ...good to know there are some skeletons in every cupboard......whats it got to do with URO??

"i would hope that there is  "

Why? Dev has just stated that there isn't


"everyone is a P.I. these days."


You are quite right there:

GES website is actually registered to a P.I. firm:

https://whois.domaintools.com/greenearthsystems.com.au

Impact security & investigations Pty Ltd (Detective, Guard, and Armored Car Services)

Possibly still trading, but there was an insolvency notice filed last year: “NOTICE OF APPLICATION FOR WINDING UP ORDER Impact-Investigations-and-Security-Pty-Ltd was commenced by the plaintiff Deputy Commissioner of Taxation on 20/02/2013”

https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov.au/browsesearch-notices/notice-details/Impact-Investigations-and-Security-Pty-Ltd-083449576/99c2627a-3fde-4e77-a3ad-8ba9cf6e577c

It has been confirmed Dr Vinny Pillay does have board membership on several companies. However there is no conflict of interest here - the NIERs operate in different regions of the world and/or serve different customers. This is even less of a problem now that we are talking about the sale of Urea at the same pricing (1 Uro per MT) - so there is no opportunity for fiat currency price fixing (e.g. a cartel of companies agreeing not to sell Urea less then $380 per MT - forcing the purchaser to pay a higher price).

The GES board members, between them, are involved with over 25 different companies in over 10 countries.

i would hope that there is 


everyone is a P.I. these days. If you have something to expose, get on with it. You are not doing yourself any favours kiddo.

So just to be sure, there is no relationship between Dr. Vinny Pillay Managing Director, GES South Africa and the non listed South Africa NIER: CCL Pillay Group? And no relationship between Grey Griffin Shipping Solutions the South African Urea exporter run owned by Vinny Pillay, and the CCL Pillay Group?  

Just wait, bittrex is full of professional manipulators. They saw an opportunity to push price down to catch miners dumps. The buy side takes less than 1 btc to recover.

Exceptional responses and attention from the dev on thhis coin/project. Thank you, it is a breath of fresh air in a crypto world of increasing sktechy characters.

True-asset keep up the good work.

No office addresses are shared between GES, CTC, CCL or GES.

danonthehill: please present the evidence supporting your accusation that GES owns CTC, UTI and CCL as well as your evidence showing addresses being shared between the companies or retract both of the statements that you have made.

Over 100 senior personnel make up the staff of these companies around the globe and I cannot guarantee that there are no instances where a particular individual is an employee of company A and company B. I also believe it is naive to expect that such a complete isolation exists between a group of international firms that deal in the same product.