[ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 386.

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Quote from: nakaone on March 19, 2014, 05:29:33 AM

Quote from: Fernandez on March 19, 2014, 05:11:27 AM

Quote from: halfcab123 on March 19, 2014, 04:03:39 AM

I don't see why xcp and msc can't coexist, I think there are some frightened investors over there :/

They will end up with similar feature set, so unlikely both will be successes.

The main problem for XCP seems to be the lack of funds. Even though XCP has shown more competent developers, competing over a long time against MSC with lots of funds is difficult.

there are at least a few hundred early adopters and burners who have interest in xcp succeeding

additionally the developers say to be self-sufficient and had until now no problems even to fund premium auditing - I assume they did not create counterparty protocol to become rich

no doubt msc has more money (even though we do not know, but it is highly likely), but why does it need >1000 btc to develop and run a protocol on top of bitcoin?

It helps when you have to hire a lot of additional developers to make several features in parallel.

A few hundred early adopters and burners doesn't translate to funds for bounties.

I am not saying MSC will be a definite success and XCP a failure. If it was I would have sold XCP now and bought more MSC. Just what I think may be a likely outcome.

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Quote from: Fernandez on March 19, 2014, 05:11:27 AM

Quote from: halfcab123 on March 19, 2014, 04:03:39 AM

I don't see why xcp and msc can't coexist, I think there are some frightened investors over there :/

They will end up with similar feature set, so unlikely both will be successes.

The main problem for XCP seems to be the lack of funds. Even though XCP has shown more competent developers, competing over a long time against MSC with lots of funds is difficult.

there are at least a few hundred early adopters and burners who have interest in xcp succeeding

additionally the developers say to be self-sufficient and had until now no problems even to fund premium auditing - I assume they did not create counterparty protocol to become rich

no doubt msc has more money (even though we do not know, but it is highly likely), but why does it need >1000 btc to develop and run a protocol on top of bitcoin?

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Quote from: Fernandez on March 19, 2014, 05:13:05 AM

Quote from: pikuchato on March 19, 2014, 05:10:11 AM

Noob question, please explain

Does NXT, XCP and etherium try to accomplish the same thing?
The only difference is that XCP runs on the bitcoin chain?

XCP and NXT along with MSC seem to be trying the same thing. XCP runs on the BTC blockchain but they can decide anytime to shift to a different coin or even run its own blockchain.

Ethereum is different, and at this point just a lot of hot air and in my opinion will be a flop. Think of it as an Operating System on which other apps will be built.

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Quote from: pikuchato on March 19, 2014, 05:10:11 AM

Noob question, please explain

Does NXT, XCP and etherium try to accomplish the same thing?
The only difference is that XCP runs on the bitcoin chain?

XCP and NXT along with MSC seem to be trying the same thing. XCP runs on the BTC blockchain but they can decide anytime to shift to a different coin or even run its own blockchain.

Ethereum is different, and at this point just a lot of hot air and in my opinion will be a flop. Think of it as an Operating System on which other apps will be built.

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Quote from: halfcab123 on March 19, 2014, 04:03:39 AM

I don't see why xcp and msc can't coexist, I think there are some frightened investors over there :/

They will end up with similar feature set, so unlikely both will be successes.

The main problem for XCP seems to be the lack of funds. Even though XCP has shown more competent developers, competing over a long time against MSC with lots of funds is difficult.

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Noob question, please explain

Does NXT, XCP and etherium try to accomplish the same thing?
The only difference is that XCP runs on the bitcoin chain?

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Quote from: halfcab123 on March 19, 2014, 04:03:39 AM

I don't see why xcp and msc can't coexist, I think there are some frightened investors over there :/

hate to reiterate this, because the phrase is so worn out, but

first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

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I don't see why xcp and msc can't coexist, I think there are some frightened investors over there :/

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 19, 2014, 01:16:46 AM

Quote from: kdrop22 on March 19, 2014, 12:45:04 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on March 19, 2014, 12:24:07 AM

is counterparty ready for the issuance of basic assets? something simple like claim checks?

Yes, you can issue assets in counterparty. The functionality has been in place for a month, you are welcome to check it out.
http://www.blockscan.com/asset.aspx

Any considerable risk of the asset getting wiped at some point in the future? can people trade them with each other?

I don't forsee a reason for any asset being wiped out. They are being used for 'real' purposes now.

There are some real user issued assets that are in circulation and yes they can be traded in the DEX.

cf
MPTSTOCK http://www.blockscan.com/assetInfo.aspx?q=MPTSTOCK
CAKE http://www.blockscan.com/assetInfo.aspx?q=CAKE
XBTC http://www.blockscan.com/assetInfo.aspx?q=XBTC (this was issued by myself)

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 19, 2014, 01:16:46 AM

Quote from: kdrop22 on March 19, 2014, 12:45:04 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on March 19, 2014, 12:24:07 AM

is counterparty ready for the issuance of basic assets? something simple like claim checks?

Yes, you can issue assets in counterparty. The functionality has been in place for a month, you are welcome to check it out.
http://www.blockscan.com/asset.aspx

Any considerable risk of the asset getting wiped at some point in the future? can people trade them with each other?

I would say it is quite safe, as the assets are stored on the Bitcoin blockchain. I have been using it in the command prompt for quite some time.
Yes, people can trade them with each other in the Distributed Exchange.

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Quote from: kdrop22 on March 19, 2014, 12:45:04 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on March 19, 2014, 12:24:07 AM

is counterparty ready for the issuance of basic assets? something simple like claim checks?

Yes, you can issue assets in counterparty. The functionality has been in place for a month, you are welcome to check it out.
http://www.blockscan.com/asset.aspx

Any considerable risk of the asset getting wiped at some point in the future? can people trade them with each other?

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 19, 2014, 12:24:07 AM

is counterparty ready for the issuance of basic assets? something simple like claim checks?

You can even get started with the wiki examples, as well here https://www.counterparty.co/wiki/assets/

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 19, 2014, 12:24:07 AM

is counterparty ready for the issuance of basic assets? something simple like claim checks?

Yes, you can issue assets in counterparty. The functionality has been in place for a month, you are welcome to check it out.
http://www.blockscan.com/asset.aspx

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is counterparty ready for the issuance of basic assets? something simple like claim checks?

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Quote from: kdrop22 on March 18, 2014, 11:01:12 PM

Quote from: ASIC-8Tile on March 18, 2014, 10:41:56 PM

Upgrade.

Tried to run counterpartyd server command

a) Rename the counterparty install folder.
C:\counterpartyd_buildTEMP
(You can delete this later, once you get a working install)
b) Pull from Github again, it should download a fresh copy
c) Follow the instructions to complete the reinstall.
http://counterpartyd-build.readthedocs.org/en/latest/BuildingFromSource.html#on-windows

If still not resolved, post in the Technical Support/Build thread in : https://forums.counterparty.co/

Check if your counterpartyd is up to date - cd into /dist/counterpartyd and git pull from there

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Quote from: ASIC-8Tile on March 18, 2014, 10:41:56 PM

Upgrade.

Tried to run counterpartyd server command

a) Rename the counterparty install folder.
C:\counterpartyd_buildTEMP
(You can delete this later, once you get a working install)
b) Pull from Github again, it should download a fresh copy
c) Follow the instructions to complete the reinstall.
http://counterpartyd-build.readthedocs.org/en/latest/BuildingFromSource.html#on-windows

If still not resolved, post in the Technical Support/Build thread in : https://forums.counterparty.co/

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Upgrade.

Tried to run counterpartyd server command
1.) Received following error.
C:\counterpartyd_build>echo off
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\counterpartyd_build\dist\counterpartyd\counterpartyd.py", line 598, i
n
util.versions_check(db)
File "C:\counterpartyd_build\dist\counterpartyd\lib\util.py", line 300, in ver
sions_check
raise exceptions.ClientVersionError('Please upgrade counterpartyd to the lat
est version and restart the server.')
lib.exceptions.ClientVersionError: Please upgrade counterpartyd to the latest ve
rsion and restart the server.

2.) Tried C:\counterpartyd_build>git pull origin master
From https://github.com/xnova/counterpartyd_build
* branch master -> FETCH_HEAD
Already up-to-date.

What am I missing to upgrade?
Please add upgrade paths/instructions to main BTT page and/or GIT/reddit.

Thanks

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Quote from: BitcoinTangibleTrust on March 18, 2014, 08:12:44 PM

Quote from: PhantomPhreak on March 18, 2014, 08:02:09 PM

That's definitely possible.

+1

Let the Counterparty Asset Issuance innovation grow!

Thanks. I would like to begin but not the best person for the job. currently don't have a full enough understanding of the protocol to be able to offer., also I think the right person to issue such an asset would need to have established a history of trust, so users will be somewhat assured they will make good on their promise of redemption.

I will wait a while to see if anyone with more credible history/fuller understanding of counterpart offers, then try and get stuck in learning more about the procedure if nobody steps up because I do believe such a thing will be beneficial

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The XCP will never make it. You bastards are more interested in having pride that u created something. But hey, this altcoin era is about making money. whatever you have done is not invincible. I have been watching this shit since it conception in January. This coin is dead. XCP has given the worst return to its investors. Developers are boasting themselves as genius and busy rather than supporting price of XCP. If you all burners want atleast your investment back, get out of this shit now.

I saw a person just lash out at you for your opinion. that person in the wrong just like you. About the investment return it will be a gradual increase when the online wallet hits mainnet. It's unpredictable because most are just using a command line. The developers have not boasted at all. They have been low profile and only talk to give help on there creation. They just give the information on what the coin does. Not sure that's boasting, it's more informative. You look at cryptocurrency as a flash in the pan/get quick rich kind of thing. "this altcoin era is about making money" if you honestly think this than you don't see what they can be and you are just scrambling around like a chicken with it's head cut off. Just following another chart for another thing to trade. I want you to inform yourself before you decide to write slander on something you do not understand. Please write another reply with at least a fact in it.

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The XCP will never make it. You bastards are more interested in having pride that u created something. But hey, this altcoin era is about making money. whatever you have done is not invincible. I have been watching this shit since it conception in January. This coin is dead. XCP has given the worst return to its investors. Developers are boasting themselves as genius and busy rather than supporting price of XCP. If you all burners want atleast your investment back, get out of this shit now.

This is very likely blow back from what occurred here over the last day or so: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5750361

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