Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums
Approve.
Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 390. (Read 1276826 times)
March 17, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
Approve.
March 17, 2014, 11:54:33 AM
March 17, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
Destroying the fee is paying it to XCP holders.
Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto - June 21, 2010
"Lost coins only make everyone else’s coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone."
PS: I'd say 1 XCP for new assets. I like round & prime numbers. I'm afraid to see a wave a spam issuances like COKE/CRACK/METH/DILDO/FRENCHGIRL coming from the same guy if you lower it too much...
Fear stifles our thinking and actions. It creates indecisiveness that results in stagnation. I have known talented people who procrastinate indefinitely rather than risk failure. Lost opportunities cause erosion of confidence, and the downward spiral begins. Charles Stanley
Let's keep it at 0.5 and agree to monitor the risk of SPAM issuances going forward. This platform is iterating quickly. Let's not let our fears hold others back from building and increasing our XCP value. Also, Phantom did say we will have Proof of Stake voting in the near future so I am optimistic SPAM won't stop serious companies from launching successful assets.
Let there be more Bountyful Counterparty Assets!
Bountyful
March 17, 2014, 11:39:52 AM
Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums
The team at BitcoinTangibleTrust would find this immensely of benefit to helping get new customers onto our Digital Gold Coin Offerings powered by XCP!
We have a special promotion for Counterparty members we'd like to launch this week and a 0.5 XCP fee would lower our marketing costs immensely.
Thank you PhantomPhreak and the Counterparty Dev Team!
March 17, 2014, 11:15:01 AM
I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.
Destroying the fee is paying it to XCP holders.
Destroying the fee is paying it to XCP holders.
destroying the fee is good for XCP holders! totaly agree!
March 17, 2014, 10:29:59 AM
I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
Destroying the fee is paying it to XCP holders.
Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto - June 21, 2010
"Lost coins only make everyone else’s coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone."
PS: I'd say 1 XCP for new assets. I like round & prime numbers. I'm afraid to see a wave a spam issuances like COKE/CRACK/METH/DILDO/FRENCHGIRL coming from the same guy if you lower it too much...
FRENCHGIRL ? We have plenty on this thread already, no need to issue more. Or the fee should be 10000 XCP for people with real mental disorder that would really consider it.
March 17, 2014, 10:13:36 AM
Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums
Do you mean that it will temporarily be lowered to 0.5 XCP and be raised back up, or that it may again be lowered later?
It may be changed again later, and it will be switched to being determined by proof-of-stake voting.
As of 99% of what you do PP, it makes sense.
March 17, 2014, 10:12:32 AM
I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
Destroying the fee is paying it to XCP holders.
Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto - June 21, 2010
"Lost coins only make everyone else’s coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone."
PS: I'd say 1 XCP for new assets. I like round & prime numbers. I'm afraid to see a wave a spam issuances like COKE/CRACK/METH/DILDO/FRENCHGIRL coming from the same guy if you lower it too much...
March 17, 2014, 10:11:03 AM
I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
Destroying the fee is paying it to XCP holders.
Yes deflation
March 17, 2014, 10:09:34 AM
I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
Destroying the fee is paying it to XCP holders.
March 17, 2014, 10:03:06 AM
I don't think the fee should be destroyed. It would be a much better idea to pay it to Bitcoin miners or XCP holders. No? Maybe I don't understand it well enough.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
But yeah 5 xcp seems a bit much.
March 17, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums
Do you mean that it will temporarily be lowered to 0.5 XCP and be raised back up, or that it may again be lowered later?
It may be changed again later, and it will be switched to being determined by proof-of-stake voting.
March 17, 2014, 09:46:37 AM
Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums
Do you mean that it will temporarily be lowered to 0.5 XCP and be raised back up, or that it may again be lowered later?
March 17, 2014, 09:14:53 AM
Proposal to temporarily lower hard-coded asset issuance fee to 0.5 XCP: cross-post from Counterparty forums
March 17, 2014, 06:23:19 AM
I think that making an intro video interviewing people is going to be a bit boring and you are going to be losing peoples interest.
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.
The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.
Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.
Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.
Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.
The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.
Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.
Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.
Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:
- What: a method of creating complex transactions and financial derivatives among other things as well as storing and sending wealth.
- Who: Originally made by a team of developers, CP is open-source and developed by the community.
- Where: Counterparty can be run from any computer connected to the internet. No need for banks, brokers and exchanges.
- When: Counterparty is two months old, still in its infancy, with a very bright future ahead.
- Why: The current de-facto method of transfering and storing wealth online (bitcoin) is great, but is limited in scope. Where bitcoin aims to replace corrupt and malicious financial systems, counterparty aims to replace many corrupt pillars of the financial world entirely in a safe and secure manner.
+1
Should be like, Sell me this pen.
March 17, 2014, 06:17:47 AM
I think that making an intro video interviewing people is going to be a bit boring and you are going to be losing peoples interest.
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.
The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.
Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.
Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.
Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.
The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.
Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.
Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.
Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:
- What: a method of creating complex transactions and financial derivatives among other things as well as storing and sending wealth.
- Who: Originally made by a team of developers, CP is open-source and developed by the community.
- Where: Counterparty can be run from any computer connected to the internet. No need for banks, brokers and exchanges.
- When: Counterparty is two months old, still in its infancy, with a very bright future ahead.
- Why: The current de-facto method of transfering and storing wealth online (bitcoin) is great, but is limited in scope. Where bitcoin aims to replace corrupt and malicious financial systems, counterparty aims to replace many corrupt pillars of the financial world entirely in a safe and secure manner.
Ok so after watching the bitcoin video several times I've come to the conclusion that, in its extreme detail it is outside the scope of my abilities, I can definitely do a real film but the animated short that I would out together would look like but be notably shorter and much better than this How Bitcoin Works Under the Hood: http://youtu.be/Lx9zgZCMqXE
I can do something like that, that is shorter and higher quality ... I think certainly based on the incredible feedback you guys have given I would like to make 3 or 4 different videos based on your suggested approaches.
Edit: is xnova or someone of technical knowledge in direct relation to counterparty willing to do a Skype or phone consultation before I begin storyboarding ?
March 17, 2014, 05:00:22 AM
I think that making an intro video interviewing people is going to be a bit boring and you are going to be losing peoples interest.
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.
The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.
Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.
Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.
Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:
Most people have an attention span of 20-30 seconds.
The best method of marketing right now is making it dead-simple. Bright colors, simple graphics, etc.
Just like the animated what is bitcoin video; it needs to be short, concise and entertaining.
Time for interviews and real use-cases can come later. In my opinion it would be foolish to lay the "counterparty is the way of the future, now listen to these guys tell you why" deal on the unwashed masses just yet.
Start simple, friendly animated and colorful graphics, pleasant background music, some voice-over with bullet/point form of the features and potential uses of the protocol.
Answer these questions; What, Who, Where, When, Why:
- What: a method of creating complex transactions and financial derivatives among other things as well as storing and sending wealth.
- Who: Originally made by a team of developers, CP is open-source and developed by the community.
- Where: Counterparty can be run from any computer connected to the internet. No need for banks, brokers and exchanges.
- When: Counterparty is two months old, still in its infancy, with a very bright future ahead.
- Why: The current de-facto method of transfering and storing wealth online (bitcoin) is great, but is limited in scope. Where bitcoin aims to replace corrupt and malicious financial systems, counterparty aims to replace many corrupt pillars of the financial world entirely in a safe and secure manner.
March 17, 2014, 04:22:53 AM
Thanks to the help I got here I am now running the counterparty client on an old Atom system running Ubuntu 12.04. Took me almost 3 days to get counterparty in sync with the bitcoin network 
So I tried the faucet a week ago, sending me 0.2 XCP. Today I could finally see for myself if it arrived and it did. So, as a further test I tried to transfer 0.2 XCP to an exchange XCP wallet. But, it didn't work? It got the following message:
'Insufficient bitcoins at address xxx. (Need 0.0003715 BTC.)'
Looking at blockscan.com the faucet sent me 0.0001086 BTC, so the message seems correct.
But now my question is: is 0.2 XCP now different from 0.2 XCP a week ago? I would expect 0.2 XCP to *stay* 0.2 XCP but this message suspects me to believe otherwise
So I tried the faucet a week ago, sending me 0.2 XCP. Today I could finally see for myself if it arrived and it did. So, as a further test I tried to transfer 0.2 XCP to an exchange XCP wallet. But, it didn't work? It got the following message:
'Insufficient bitcoins at address xxx. (Need 0.0003715 BTC.)'
Looking at blockscan.com the faucet sent me 0.0001086 BTC, so the message seems correct.
But now my question is: is 0.2 XCP now different from 0.2 XCP a week ago? I would expect 0.2 XCP to *stay* 0.2 XCP but this message suspects me to believe otherwise
Multi-sig transactions require that there be between .0001 and .0004 BTC at an address, depending on the kind of transaction you would like make.
March 17, 2014, 03:49:23 AM
Thanks to the help I got here I am now running the counterparty client on an old Atom system running Ubuntu 12.04. Took me almost 3 days to get counterparty in sync with the bitcoin network
So I tried the faucet a week ago, sending me 0.2 XCP. Today I could finally see for myself if it arrived and it did. So, as a further test I tried to transfer 0.2 XCP to an exchange XCP wallet. But, it didn't work? It got the following message:
'Insufficient bitcoins at address xxx. (Need 0.0003715 BTC.)'
Looking at blockscan.com the faucet sent me 0.0001086 BTC, so the message seems correct.
But now my question is: is 0.2 XCP now different from 0.2 XCP a week ago? I would expect 0.2 XCP to *stay* 0.2 XCP but this message suspects me to believe otherwise
So I tried the faucet a week ago, sending me 0.2 XCP. Today I could finally see for myself if it arrived and it did. So, as a further test I tried to transfer 0.2 XCP to an exchange XCP wallet. But, it didn't work? It got the following message:
'Insufficient bitcoins at address xxx. (Need 0.0003715 BTC.)'
Looking at blockscan.com the faucet sent me 0.0001086 BTC, so the message seems correct.
But now my question is: is 0.2 XCP now different from 0.2 XCP a week ago? I would expect 0.2 XCP to *stay* 0.2 XCP but this message suspects me to believe otherwise
March 16, 2014, 11:30:20 PM
[Marketing]
If you do want to do a use case on Bitcoin Tangible Trust, I think it would make sense to contact them for either a video interview (Skype, perhaps) or an email exchange interview. (Interviews provide great material, since, if you spend some time and forethought crafting great questions, you get the interviewee to provide compelling content and make your arguments for you.)
They recently contacted Counterparty via this thread and asked for our feedback on their services. They must have been in touch with the devs prior to this in order to implement XCP, don't you think? The point is, they seem very interested in having a productive dialogue with CP in order to develop their services and their business in general. It might benefit both CP and BTT to create a video advertisement together, parts of which we could each use. Like CP, they are young and inventive, and this is one of the demographics that CP can appeal to.
Edit: I would be happy to help develop these questions, and think through how this interview might work. I don't have programming expertise, so I am approaching this as an investor in both cryptocurrencies and precious metals.
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