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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 449. (Read 1276912 times)

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B. This is a great idea, and we get to buy in to the business when the construction on the building isn't even finished yet. That means it's quite undervalued, since most people buy what they can see, and not what they can imagine. I have to endure some technical issues, and there is a genuine risk that things may all fall apart before this is ready for prime time, but I am willing to take that chance and deal with the inconveniences because I'm getting in for cheap at the start of something that could be quite revolutionary and lucrative. Not only do I stand to gain significantly as an early adopter, but I am also able to influence the design and trajectory of this project through thoughtful input.
EDIT: And this thread is full of responsive, intelligent people, including the devs, who are willing to help solve whatever problems I encounter.

I choose B. I hope you do, too.

+1 That's why I'm here. Anyone have any suggestions of other "B" type opportunities? I'm still waiting for Etherium to do its pre-sale.
sr. member
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WHEN WILL THERE BE A CLIENT FOR THE NORMAL PEOPLE

or shall we crash the XRP market

The installing for receiving the XRP is impossible,

HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?counterpartyd_binaries-master?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

As I still have the XRP on an exchange, unable to receive them, I will sell them to dump-price......

There are at least two ways to look at this.

A. Counterparty is not ready for prime time. Everything is too complicated and there are too many technical hurdles for average users to overcome. No GUI, no one-click install, no decent wiki to explain everything for new users, there are still bugs in the code. This is a disaster, and it will never catch on. You guys should have never tried to release this.

B. This is a great idea, and we get to buy in to the business when the construction on the building isn't even finished yet. That means it's quite undervalued, since most people buy what they can see, and not what they can imagine. I have to endure some technical issues, and there is a genuine risk that things may all fall apart before this is ready for prime time, but I am willing to take that chance and deal with the inconveniences because I'm getting in for cheap at the start of something that could be quite revolutionary and lucrative. Not only do I stand to gain significantly as an early adopter, but I am also able to influence the design and trajectory of this project through thoughtful input.
EDIT: And this thread is full of responsive, intelligent people, including the devs, who are willing to help solve whatever problems I encounter.

I choose B. I hope you do, too.

Kirk Douglas is right. I choose B!!!!!!! With all my heart and soul. I will read this every time I see the price drop below .02 and get mad and talk to

myself saying why u dumb sellers!! why u sell so low?Huh?
sr. member
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Can anyone give me a quick synopsis on what counterparty is and how I can get it and why I should get this over ethereum?
sr. member
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Counterparty Chief Scientist and Co-Founder
I'm glad to see the first DEX in action, but I'm slightly disappointed by how it is done right now.

Especially the fee-policy seems strange to me. It can't be that a DEX is much more expensive than a centralized one. I see the need for trolling prevention, but what's the point of having a troll-free DEX that is not used because it's too expensive? There is one fundamental problem if users can set the fee required when placing an offer: The market does not necessarily converge to one price. There might be one price for low fees and another for high fees. this makes the whole thing very complicated to use.

And the following DEX features are lacking (or please point me to the docs if I'm not up to date):

  • minimum match quantity should be selectable when placing an offer. If I want to sell 100x I might not want to to have 100 trades of 1x, especially if the process is not automized
  • multisig escrow solution. Trading XCP/BTC is ok now because both are built on top of the same blockchain and the protocol can act as the escrow. But If I would like to trade PPC for BTC, how would that work trustlessly?

However: keep going on, the bleeding edge of crypto is exciting....

I so +1 this. Please somebody address all these points. All of these points are concerns of mine as well. These are very important imo.

Order matches are automated, unless BTC is involved, and it's difficult to get counterpartyd to handle BTCpays itself, but any good GUI should provide that functionality. (Stay tuned.)

Bitcoin itself provides all of the necessary functionality for multi-signature atomic transactions, except discovery, and Counterparty isn't really very well suited to that either.
newbie
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WHEN WILL THERE BE A CLIENT FOR THE NORMAL PEOPLE

or shall we crash the XRP market

The installing for receiving the XRP is impossible,

HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?counterpartyd_binaries-master?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

As I still have the XRP on an exchange, unable to receive them, I will sell them to dump-price......

There are at least two ways to look at this.

A. Counterparty is not ready for prime time. Everything is too complicated and there are too many technical hurdles for average users to overcome. No GUI, no one-click install, no decent wiki to explain everything for new users, there are still bugs in the code. This is a disaster, and it will never catch on. You guys should have never tried to release this.

B. This is a great idea, and we get to buy in to the business when the construction on the building isn't even finished yet. That means it's quite undervalued, since most people buy what they can see, and not what they can imagine. I have to endure some technical issues, and there is a genuine risk that things may all fall apart before this is ready for prime time, but I am willing to take that chance and deal with the inconveniences because I'm getting in for cheap at the start of something that could be quite revolutionary and lucrative. Not only do I stand to gain significantly as an early adopter, but I am also able to influence the design and trajectory of this project through thoughtful input.
EDIT: And this thread is full of responsive, intelligent people, including the devs, who are willing to help solve whatever problems I encounter.

I choose B. I hope you do, too.

good point, I choose B too.
sr. member
Activity: 386
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WHEN WILL THERE BE A CLIENT FOR THE NORMAL PEOPLE

or shall we crash the XRP market

The installing for receiving the XRP is impossible,

HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?counterpartyd_binaries-master?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

As I still have the XRP on an exchange, unable to receive them, I will sell them to dump-price......

There are at least two ways to look at this.

A. Counterparty is not ready for prime time. Everything is too complicated and there are too many technical hurdles for average users to overcome. No GUI, no one-click install, no decent wiki to explain everything for new users, there are still bugs in the code. This is a disaster, and it will never catch on. You guys should have never tried to release this.

B. This is a great idea, and we get to buy in to the business when the construction on the building isn't even finished yet. That means it's quite undervalued, since most people buy what they can see, and not what they can imagine. I have to endure some technical issues, and there is a genuine risk that things may all fall apart before this is ready for prime time, but I am willing to take that chance and deal with the inconveniences because I'm getting in for cheap at the start of something that could be quite revolutionary and lucrative. Not only do I stand to gain significantly as an early adopter, but I am also able to influence the design and trajectory of this project through thoughtful input.
EDIT: And this thread is full of responsive, intelligent people, including the devs, who are willing to help solve whatever problems I encounter.

I choose B. I hope you do, too.
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Never mind, I just checked the source--it is now create_send.

Hello,busoni

When the volume is 2300BTC,the fee should be enough to fill the blank. And there should be 57.5 BTC and the equivalent value xcp. How to handle them,please give an  treatment method.Thank you very much.


we need more details.thanks busoni
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Poloniex 24-hour trading volume:  100 BTC !!

@ 2.5% trading fee we are recovering 5 BTC per day.

At this rate the losses from the hack should be fully recovered in < 1 month!

That is the power of the self-organized project, right? Wink

I love it.
legendary
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sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...

I will double-check it but it's most certainly a false positive.
Thanks for reporting this.

you're welcome.
Any update?
I need to be able to send xcp! People want to buy..
What is the fastest and safest way to get there?!
I am trying this for days now... super annoying.
Nothing against you. Highly appreciate your efforts!!

It appears perfectly clean to me.  Out of all scans made by urlvoid and virustotal, only bitdefender flags the domain (not the binary itself) for some reason. So, definitely sounds like a false positive.  Plus we plan to move the boottleXCP builds to a new, official website a few days from now anyway.

Computers these days really are too paranoid. It takes three attempts to run this file. First, Google Chrome tells me it can't be trusted and suggests that I discard it. I click "keep." Next, Windows Smart Screen says it's from an untrusted source. I say "run anyway." Finally, Norton 360 quarantines the file and I have to tell it to "restore" the file. Then, after all that, I can finally run it. It's like the modern nanny state has come to computers!

Wow, didn't expect so many hurdles.  I'll see what I can do to make this smoother in the future.  Out of curiosity, what reason does Norton give?

Not your fault. I could turn off that smartscreen crap if I wanted, but since I deal with my BTC/XCP on this computer I have everything turned up to be on the safe side. So maybe I shouldn't complain LOL. Norton says: Very few users, very new as reasons. Well DUH!! lol
legendary
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sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...

I will double-check it but it's most certainly a false positive.
Thanks for reporting this.

you're welcome.
Any update?
I need to be able to send xcp! People want to buy..
What is the fastest and safest way to get there?!
I am trying this for days now... super annoying.
Nothing against you. Highly appreciate your efforts!!

It appears perfectly clean to me.  Out of all scans made by urlvoid and virustotal, only bitdefender flags the domain (not the binary itself) for some reason. So, definitely sounds like a false positive.  Plus we plan to move the boottleXCP builds to a new, official website a few days from now anyway.

Computers these days really are too paranoid. It takes three attempts to run this file. First, Google Chrome tells me it can't be trusted and suggests that I discard it. I click "keep." Next, Windows Smart Screen says it's from an untrusted source. I say "run anyway." Finally, Norton 360 quarantines the file and I have to tell it to "restore" the file. Then, after all that, I can finally run it. It's like the modern nanny state has come to computers!

Wow, didn't expect so many hurdles.  I'll see what I can do to make this smoother in the future.  Out of curiosity, what reason does Norton give?
member
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Poloniex 24-hour trading volume:  100 BTC !!

@ 2.5% trading fee we are recovering 5 BTC per day.

At this rate the losses from the hack should be fully recovered in < 1 month!
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...

I will double-check it but it's most certainly a false positive.
Thanks for reporting this.

you're welcome.
Any update?
I need to be able to send xcp! People want to buy..
What is the fastest and safest way to get there?!
I am trying this for days now... super annoying.
Nothing against you. Highly appreciate your efforts!!

It appears perfectly clean to me.  Out of all scans made by urlvoid and virustotal, only bitdefender flags the domain (not the binary itself) for some reason. So, definitely sounds like a false positive.  Plus we plan to move the boottleXCP builds to a new, official website a few days from now anyway.

Computers these days really are too paranoid. It takes three attempts to run this file. First, Google Chrome tells me it can't be trusted and suggests that I discard it. I click "keep." Next, Windows Smart Screen says it's from an untrusted source. I say "run anyway." Finally, Norton 360 quarantines the file and I have to tell it to "restore" the file. Then, after all that, I can finally run it. It's like the modern nanny state has come to computers!
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1016
090930
sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...

I will double-check it but it's most certainly a false positive.
Thanks for reporting this.

you're welcome.
Any update?
I need to be able to send xcp! People want to buy..
What is the fastest and safest way to get there?!
I am trying this for days now... super annoying.
Nothing against you. Highly appreciate your efforts!!

It appears perfectly clean to me.  Out of all scans made by urlvoid and virustotal, only bitdefender flags the domain (not the binary itself) for some reason. So, definitely sounds like a false positive.  Plus we plan to move the boottleXCP builds to a new, official website a few days from now anyway.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 300
Counterparty Chief Scientist and Co-Founder
WTF going on with new releases?
I was using DEX successfully and happily, until latest updates.
On these updates commands "market" and "fee-provided" was canceled and not working anymore.
So I don't see any way to get orders list ("market" did it).
And fee is now setting up in some mysterious automatic way. And while you cannot set according fee - you cannot bypass trolls or even get your order matched to existing.
Example from now. There is order of 7 XCP at price 0.009 and fee-required=0.0125999.
I tried few times to match this order. But automatic fee always less than required and I did not get the match, so my order expired and I lost 0.011 and then 0.012 in fees. It's 14$ pure lost. And I didn't get anything.
Even if I'll find a way to set order with appropriate fee, I'll pay fee of at least 0.012599 (about 1.4 XCP) to buy that order of 7 XCP => 20% fee. More expensive than that I cannot imagine...

Can anyone make thing clearer?

I retired the market command (as I explained on GitHub) because the functionality that it (poorly) provided should really be relegated to an external tool. Blockscan's will work for you until someone writes one.

There's a bug in the fee code which your comment pointed me to. I'll fix it now.

counterpartyd will also now print the final provided/required fees in BTC before asking to confirm the order.
sr. member
Activity: 262
Merit: 250
WHEN WILL THERE BE A CLIENT FOR THE NORMAL PEOPLE

or shall we crash the XRP market

The installing for receiving the XRP is impossible,

HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?counterpartyd_binaries-master?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

As I still have the XRP on an exchange, unable to receive them, I will sell them to dump-price......

The web client will be coming soon.

You don't need to have counterpartyd to receive XCP on your existing BTC addresses. However, without Counterpartyd you won't be able to move the XCP out of those addresses.

What is the problem you are experiencing with countepartyd? Please post your operating system, steps you are following and what the error is.

I'm sure someone here or in the official forums can help you out.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 300
Counterparty Chief Scientist and Co-Founder
WTF going on with new releases?
I was using DEX successfully and happily, until latest updates.
On these updates commands "market" and "fee-provided" was canceled and not working anymore.
So I don't see any way to get orders list ("market" did it).
And fee is now setting up in some mysterious automatic way. And while you cannot set according fee - you cannot bypass trolls or even get your order matched to existing.
Example from now. There is order of 7 XCP at price 0.009 and fee-required=0.0125999.
I tried few times to match this order. But automatic fee always less than required and I did not get the match, so my order expired and I lost 0.011 and then 0.012 in fees. It's 14$ pure lost. And I didn't get anything.
Even if I'll find a way to set order with appropriate fee, I'll pay fee of at least 0.012599 (about 1.4 XCP) to buy that order of 7 XCP => 20% fee. More expensive than that I cannot imagine...

Can anyone make thing clearer?

I retired the market command (as I explained on GitHub) because the functionality that it (poorly) provided should really be relegated to an external tool. Blockscan's will work for you until someone writes one.

There's a bug in the fee code which your comment pointed me to. I'll fix it now.
member
Activity: 93
Merit: 10
WTF going on with new releases?
I was using DEX successfully and happily, until latest updates.
On these updates commands "market" and "fee-provided" was canceled and not working anymore.
So I don't see any way to get orders list ("market" did it).
And fee is now setting up in some mysterious automatic way. And while you cannot set according fee - you cannot bypass trolls or even get your order matched to existing.
Example from now. There is order of 7 XCP at price 0.009 and fee-required=0.0125999.
I tried few times to match this order. But automatic fee always less than required and I did not get the match, so my order expired and I lost 0.011 and then 0.012 in fees. It's 14$ pure lost. And I didn't get anything.
Even if I'll find a way to set order with appropriate fee, I'll pay fee of at least 0.012599 (about 1.4 XCP) to buy that order of 7 XCP => 20% fee. More expensive than that I cannot imagine...

Can anyone make thing clearer?
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
WHEN WILL THERE BE A CLIENT FOR THE NORMAL PEOPLE

or shall we crash the XRP market

The installing for receiving the XRP is impossible,

HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?counterpartyd_binaries-master?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

As I still have the XRP on an exchange, unable to receive them, I will sell them to dump-price......
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
Jah's GUI worked great last night, but this morning when trying to send XCP I'm getting:

transmit() got an unexpected keyword argument 'ask'

Using latest binaries from firefly.

Sorry for that! i miss one modification in counterpartyd 6.1. I did a push with fix:

https://github.com/JahPowerBit/BoottleXCP


Thanks! Firefly can you post an updated binary?

I guess you're talking to me Smiley
Stay tuned... I will prepare a new build as soon as possible.

Here we go. You can grab it from the below post. Does it fix the issue?
https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,74.msg814.html#msg814

Perfect, works great! Thanks.
full member
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Merit: 100
sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...

I will double-check it but it's most certainly a false positive.
Thanks for reporting this.

you're welcome.
Any update?
I need to be able to send xcp! People want to buy..
What is the fastest and safest way to get there?!
I am trying this for days now... super annoying.
Nothing against you. Highly appreciate your efforts!!
The fastest and safest way right now is to use the command line.
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