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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 450. (Read 1276912 times)

sr. member
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sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...

I will double-check it but it's most certainly a false positive.
Thanks for reporting this.

you're welcome.
Any update?
I need to be able to send xcp! People want to buy..
What is the fastest and safest way to get there?!
I am trying this for days now... super annoying.
Nothing against you. Highly appreciate your efforts!!
sr. member
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I'm glad to see the first DEX in action, but I'm slightly disappointed by how it is done right now.

Especially the fee-policy seems strange to me. It can't be that a DEX is much more expensive than a centralized one. I see the need for trolling prevention, but what's the point of having a troll-free DEX that is not used because it's too expensive? There is one fundamental problem if users can set the fee required when placing an offer: The market does not necessarily converge to one price. There might be one price for low fees and another for high fees. this makes the whole thing very complicated to use.

And the following DEX features are lacking (or please point me to the docs if I'm not up to date):

  • minimum match quantity should be selectable when placing an offer. If I want to sell 100x I might not want to to have 100 trades of 1x, especially if the process is not automized
  • multisig escrow solution. Trading XCP/BTC is ok now because both are built on top of the same blockchain and the protocol can act as the escrow. But If I would like to trade PPC for BTC, how would that work trustlessly?

However: keep going on, the bleeding edge of crypto is exciting....

Hi, you've got good points and I'll try and answer your questions.

As you know, the fee policy is only required for orders which involve the sending or receiving of BTC. Assets within Counterparty can be traded on the DEX completely frictionless and trustlessly. Since BTC cannot be held in escrow there are some measures that need to be put in place to disincentivize troll orders.

I agree that it is slightly cumbersome to use the DEX as it stands. However, the convenience that you and I seek as users are just functions of the client software. Things that I hope to see develop as Counterparty becomes more mature:

1) The client should have an option to automatically calculate the 'full' price of an order including the fee. One click to expand the underlying orders. Another click on a line item to match an order price.

2) The client could have an optional automatic BTC pay option to release payments after x confirmations of an order match. It would be optional as not everyone would want to use such a feature.

Regarding cross blockchain trading, personally I'm not sure how it would be possible to do it trustlessly. However, it has been discussed in this thread regarding the creation of a DAC which can provide a service to automatically sell and buy 'XBTC' which is a Counterparty asset based asset and held at parity with BTC. The DAC would be transparent, auditable and the health of the DAC could be seen on a dashboard. The DAC would not be trust less but the transactions would be provable. There are some additional complications when extending this to a different blockchain, but I think it is feasible to create a DAC for such purposes. You would then be able to trade frictionlessly between XCP and XBTC, and in your case XCP and XPPC.

As a side note, in your question about trading for PPC is that because you are interested in the utility of PPC? ie you want to use PPC to purchase goods or proof of stake. Or are are you interested in PPC as an investment opportunity and wish to participate in the price movements?

If it is the latter, then you do in not need to own PPC in order to be able to participate in the price movements of PPC. In theory, with a bull CFD on a BTC/PPC broadcast feed, with a leverage of 1, you could participate in the price movements of PPC without owning PPC. Do note though that the payouts for bets and CFDs in Counterparty is in XCP.
legendary
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sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...

I will double-check it but it's most certainly a false positive.
Thanks for reporting this.
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 250
sure i strongly assume its ok. When I access the site it is reported that  Mal/HTMLGen-A was found... probably a false positive...
legendary
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the first thing that happens when I open http://dre.natverk.org/BoottleXCP-0003-win3264.exe is "phyton.exe isnt working anymore - looking for a solution"... It doesnt start.
Anyone has the same problem or knows a solution?


Do you use a non-English version of Windows?
Also, try the latest build, which is BoottleXCP-0004 (see above post)

yes I use non English Windows...
bitdefender blocks the link http://trax.x10.mx/BoottleXCP-0004-win3264.exe  . How can I know its safe?

Well it's signed by me and guaranteed to be clean. I do encourage you to verify the SHA256 hash and GPG signature to be on the safe side. Also submitting new binaries to virustotal.com is often a good idea.
sr. member
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the first thing that happens when I open http://dre.natverk.org/BoottleXCP-0003-win3264.exe is "phyton.exe isnt working anymore - looking for a solution"... It doesnt start.
Anyone has the same problem or knows a solution?


Do you use a non-English version of Windows?
Also, try the latest build, which is BoottleXCP-0004 (see above post)

yes I use non English Windows...
bitdefender blocks the link http://trax.x10.mx/BoottleXCP-0004-win3264.exe  . How can I know its safe?
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1016
090930
the first thing that happens when I open http://dre.natverk.org/BoottleXCP-0003-win3264.exe is "phyton.exe isnt working anymore - looking for a solution"... It doesnt start.
Anyone has the same problem or knows a solution?


Do you use a non-English version of Windows?
Also, try the latest build, which is BoottleXCP-0004 (see above post)
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 250
the first thing that happens when I open http://dre.natverk.org/BoottleXCP-0003-win3264.exe is "phyton.exe isnt working anymore - looking for a solution"... It doesnt start.
Anyone has the same problem or knows a solution?
legendary
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Merit: 1016
090930
Jah's GUI worked great last night, but this morning when trying to send XCP I'm getting:

transmit() got an unexpected keyword argument 'ask'

Using latest binaries from firefly.

Sorry for that! i miss one modification in counterpartyd 6.1. I did a push with fix:

https://github.com/JahPowerBit/BoottleXCP


Thanks! Firefly can you post an updated binary?

I guess you're talking to me Smiley
Stay tuned... I will prepare a new build as soon as possible.

Here we go. You can grab it from the below post. Does it fix the issue?
https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,74.msg814.html#msg814
legendary
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I've purchased some XCPs @ poloniex, and want to withdraw it, is there a way to do it without using counterpatyd.exe? For example, for MSC you just need to create new address in your bitcoin wallet, will the same work with XCP?
yes.
(keep in mind that you wont be able to send the xcp back to poloniex without counterpartyd)

And good luck getting that working right, because the devs don't read or respond to the technical support section on the counterparty forums.
Yes, they are actually robots who are expected to work 24/7 on the code, review it, fix bugs and respond on the forums to every single question including those that have been answered before.



Not to mention they aren't getting paid one cent, other than the increase in value of their holdings.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1016
090930
Jah's GUI worked great last night, but this morning when trying to send XCP I'm getting:

transmit() got an unexpected keyword argument 'ask'

Using latest binaries from firefly.

Sorry for that! i miss one modification in counterpartyd 6.1. I did a push with fix:

https://github.com/JahPowerBit/BoottleXCP


Thanks! Firefly can you post an updated binary?

I guess you're talking to me Smiley
Stay tuned... I will prepare a new build as soon as possible.
full member
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I've purchased some XCPs @ poloniex, and want to withdraw it, is there a way to do it without using counterpatyd.exe? For example, for MSC you just need to create new address in your bitcoin wallet, will the same work with XCP?
yes.
(keep in mind that you wont be able to send the xcp back to poloniex without counterpartyd)

And good luck getting that working right, because the devs don't read or respond to the technical support section on the counterparty forums.
Yes, they are actually robots who are expected to work 24/7 on the code, review it, fix bugs and respond on the forums to every single question including those that have been answered before.

newbie
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I've purchased some XCPs @ poloniex, and want to withdraw it, is there a way to do it without using counterpatyd.exe? For example, for MSC you just need to create new address in your bitcoin wallet, will the same work with XCP?
yes.
(keep in mind that you wont be able to send the xcp back to poloniex without counterpartyd)

And good luck getting that working right, because the devs don't read or respond to the technical support section on the counterparty forums.
full member
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I'm making how to videos today since there's not gonna be a mainnet Web wallet for probably 3 weeks
Great idea.
legendary
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I've purchased some XCPs @ poloniex, and want to withdraw it, is there a way to do it without using counterpatyd.exe? For example, for MSC you just need to create new address in your bitcoin wallet, will the same work with XCP?
yes.
(keep in mind that you wont be able to send the xcp back to poloniex without counterpartyd)
hero member
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Trading will make me rich)
I've purchased some XCPs @ poloniex, and want to withdraw it, is there a way to do it without using counterpatyd.exe? For example, for MSC you just need to create new address in your bitcoin wallet, will the same work with XCP?
legendary
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Please lower the fee on poloniex when the loss are get back, I want to buy more xcps!
me  too, i want to buy more xcp.

For the record I had xcp stuck on poloniex during all this. And I still have it there because busoni has earned my trust. But I believe the fee

is too high for buyers. We want new xcp holders in. My opinion is 2% for sellers and .5% for buyers. Until a reasonable amount has been

recovered for busoni. I do not think necessarily busoni should get 100% recovered. Perhaps do this for the next month and stop regardless

whether you recovered all or less.

Busoni still take donations and here was ~10-20 user who told to donate when Poloni is back in business... What faster we get fees normal that better. Are you Busoni paying some part of this loses also? After all is clear you earn with fees and it was your fault that there no had any cashout protection for big amounts so i think you need to pay some small part also?

Yes I agree. Although Busoni seems to ignore the question of how much does he feel responsible for I don't think it is because he feels he isn't.

Perhaps his frame of mind is lets see how donations and the higher fees go for a while and he will most likely eat the rest when he thinks

the community has done enough. That is my guess.

Perhaps his state of mind is let's make sure the exchange is working right and let me sleep through the night and then maybe I will have time to read message boards.

For what it's worth, I cannot believe that busoni had the audacity to allow people to withdraw what he believed was their own money. How quick we are to forget that the bug was in the protocol itself, not in the exchange.
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Please lower the fee on poloniex when the loss are get back, I want to buy more xcps!
me  too, i want to buy more xcp.

For the record I had xcp stuck on poloniex during all this. And I still have it there because busoni has earned my trust. But I believe the fee

is too high for buyers. We want new xcp holders in. My opinion is 2% for sellers and .5% for buyers. Until a reasonable amount has been

recovered for busoni. I do not think necessarily busoni should get 100% recovered. Perhaps do this for the next month and stop regardless

whether you recovered all or less.

Busoni still take donations and here was ~10-20 user who told to donate when Poloni is back in business... What faster we get fees normal that better. Are you Busoni paying some part of this loses also? After all is clear you earn with fees and it was your fault that there no had any cashout protection for big amounts so i think you need to pay some small part also?

Yes I agree. Although Busoni seems to ignore the question of how much does he feel responsible for I don't think it is because he feels he isn't.

Perhaps his frame of mind is lets see how donations and the higher fees go for a while and he will most likely eat the rest when he thinks

the community has done enough. That is my guess.
newbie
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I can't understand how so many people are having so much trouble with counterpartyd. I am literally a complete novice, I know nothing and I managed after a few stupid basic mistakes to get it working. Maybe I have just been lucky but it seems like you just need to follow the instructions online really really carefully and not miss out any of the steps.
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Please lower the fee on poloniex when the loss are get back, I want to buy more xcps!
me  too, i want to buy more xcp.

For the record I had xcp stuck on poloniex during all this. And I still have it there because busoni has earned my trust. But I believe the fee

is too high for buyers. We want new xcp holders in. My opinion is 2% for sellers and .5% for buyers. Until a reasonable amount has been

recovered for busoni. I do not think necessarily busoni should get 100% recovered. Perhaps do this for the next month and stop regardless

whether you recovered all or less.

Busoni still take donations and here was ~10-20 user who told to donate when Poloni is back in business... What faster we get fees normal that better. Are you Busoni paying some part of this loses also? After all is clear you earn with fees and it was your fault that there no had any cashout protection for big amounts so i think you need to pay some small part also?
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