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Topic: [ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure - page 236. (Read 850209 times)

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... also using getmininginfo would require running a wallet on my mining rig (or using RPC to connect to one) which further complicates things.  That said, it would probably be an improvement to use getmininginfo, so if someone wants to send me the maths to get from the difficulties of the various algos to "Coins/Scrypt MH" then I'll update my script and post a new version using that.

it should be in a config file because 290/290x mines differently than 280x (faster skein, slower groestl for the same scrypt mhash/s)

I made a php script that does the same thing for windows:
https://bitbucket.org/iopq/automatic-algo-switcher-for-myriadcoin/

I scape the difficulties from the JSON api and my config file has the settings for an R9 290
if you want to do it from the wallet and run the wallet I suggest you use the same approach, I have scrypt disabled because it takes too much power

what you might want to also do is scrape the price info, let the user specify the power usage of each algo (and $/watt), and calculate the most profitable algo based on current price and selling immediately after mining

Hmmm I was wondering about that.  The "Coins/Scrypt MH" number seems to give me a good enough approximation of profitability for my R9 280x for my purposes, but I see that to do it properly those numbers would need to be weighted for different GPUs.  I guess the numbers are just discovered experimentally?  I don't have the time (or the equipment) to work out the weightings for coin production on different algos and different hardware unfortunately.  Your idea for letting the user specify the power and doing a proper cost analysis before choosing the algo is great... but again I'm not sure I have the time right now to implement that Sad 

I think I will take up foodie's offer of a nice simplified "Coins/Scrypt MH" webpage to get the numbers from and leave it at that for now.  I'll also implement a decent algo choosing mechanism - maybe based on the setting of the commands at the top of the script (ie:  no command for a given algo means leave that algo out of the running).

At some point I'll put it on github and open it up if people are interested in contributing?

Also - a question for the devs and other coin-tech people:  Is the constant switching of miners between algos in this way considered harmful to the coin?  Obviously if *all* miners were switching en-mass on the hour, it would cause some pretty wild and weird swings in difficulty and hash rates for the algos...  I know auto-switching pools are frowned upon for this reason by some people.  When you have big enough hordes of miners chasing profit from coin to coin it can severely impact hashrates and leave coins vulnerable to attack at certain times.  I suppose chasing profit *within the one coin* as we are doing here is not as bad... but then its open for analysis / discussion.

Thanks. I will tip you well if you can set up a simplified Coins/Scrypt MH webapge taht accounts for different GPU benchmarks.

I don't think the constant switching of miners between algos would be harmful. The difficulties for each algo retarget after every block that algo finds, but I'm not sure what type of memory kernal is put in place (how far into the past it using the hashrates).
sr. member
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does anyone know if there are any profitability calculators for mining myriad? I really like the coin and would like to support it, but I am not sure I could justify it if it is not profitable to mine. Thanks!

I'm working on a mining hardware info page, I guess I could squeeze in a calculator.
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
does anyone know if there are any profitability calculators for mining myriad? I really like the coin and would like to support it, but I am not sure I could justify it if it is not profitable to mine. Thanks!

You can look here http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/, then check the current exchange rate at Poloniex or Mintpal and calculate it pretty easily.
full member
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does anyone know if there are any profitability calculators for mining myriad? I really like the coin and would like to support it, but I am not sure I could justify it if it is not profitable to mine. Thanks!
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... also using getmininginfo would require running a wallet on my mining rig (or using RPC to connect to one) which further complicates things.  That said, it would probably be an improvement to use getmininginfo, so if someone wants to send me the maths to get from the difficulties of the various algos to "Coins/Scrypt MH" then I'll update my script and post a new version using that.

it should be in a config file because 290/290x mines differently than 280x (faster skein, slower groestl for the same scrypt mhash/s)

I made a php script that does the same thing for windows:
https://bitbucket.org/iopq/automatic-algo-switcher-for-myriadcoin/

I scape the difficulties from the JSON api and my config file has the settings for an R9 290
if you want to do it from the wallet and run the wallet I suggest you use the same approach, I have scrypt disabled because it takes too much power

what you might want to also do is scrape the price info, let the user specify the power usage of each algo (and $/watt), and calculate the most profitable algo based on current price and selling immediately after mining

Hmmm I was wondering about that.  The "Coins/Scrypt MH" number seems to give me a good enough approximation of profitability for my R9 280x for my purposes, but I see that to do it properly those numbers would need to be weighted for different GPUs.  I guess the numbers are just discovered experimentally?  I don't have the time (or the equipment) to work out the weightings for coin production on different algos and different hardware unfortunately.  Your idea for letting the user specify the power and doing a proper cost analysis before choosing the algo is great... but again I'm not sure I have the time right now to implement that Sad 

I think I will take up foodie's offer of a nice simplified "Coins/Scrypt MH" webpage to get the numbers from and leave it at that for now.  I'll also implement a decent algo choosing mechanism - maybe based on the setting of the commands at the top of the script (ie:  no command for a given algo means leave that algo out of the running).

At some point I'll put it on github and open it up if people are interested in contributing?

Also - a question for the devs and other coin-tech people:  Is the constant switching of miners between algos in this way considered harmful to the coin?  Obviously if *all* miners were switching en-mass on the hour, it would cause some pretty wild and weird swings in difficulty and hash rates for the algos...  I know auto-switching pools are frowned upon for this reason by some people.  When you have big enough hordes of miners chasing profit from coin to coin it can severely impact hashrates and leave coins vulnerable to attack at certain times.  I suppose chasing profit *within the one coin* as we are doing here is not as bad... but then its open for analysis / discussion.

it's actually a really good thing because it keeps all algorithms stable
as groestl drops in difficulty the 290/290x miners come on
as it drops further the 280x miners come on

as skein drops the 280x miners come on
as it drops further the 290(x) miners come on

so the difficulties should be more stable as more people automatically switch to a low difficulty algorithm
this makes it easier to mine a solo algorithm too, since it doesn't experience wild swings in difficulty
sr. member
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Has anyone been able to get their Win 7 rig running R9 290's to run at greater than 640x480 headless?  If I attach a monitor I can set what resolution I want and it will stay like that after I remove the monitor however after a reboot it goes back to 640x480.  I've tried every trick I could find on the net without success   Shocked  I don't have a spare monitor I can leave attached to it either.

There is an HDMI fake monitor plug on ebay, is that the only way?

Unfortunately yes. In my rigs with R9 290 I have put one non 290's Gpu as primary card to solve this problem.

So any old card will do?

I have combined 280x. Any R9 270,280 (or older series 5,6,7 ) will work.
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
... also using getmininginfo would require running a wallet on my mining rig (or using RPC to connect to one) which further complicates things.  That said, it would probably be an improvement to use getmininginfo, so if someone wants to send me the maths to get from the difficulties of the various algos to "Coins/Scrypt MH" then I'll update my script and post a new version using that.

it should be in a config file because 290/290x mines differently than 280x (faster skein, slower groestl for the same scrypt mhash/s)

I made a php script that does the same thing for windows:
https://bitbucket.org/iopq/automatic-algo-switcher-for-myriadcoin/

I scape the difficulties from the JSON api and my config file has the settings for an R9 290
if you want to do it from the wallet and run the wallet I suggest you use the same approach, I have scrypt disabled because it takes too much power

what you might want to also do is scrape the price info, let the user specify the power usage of each algo (and $/watt), and calculate the most profitable algo based on current price and selling immediately after mining

Hmmm I was wondering about that.  The "Coins/Scrypt MH" number seems to give me a good enough approximation of profitability for my R9 280x for my purposes, but I see that to do it properly those numbers would need to be weighted for different GPUs.  I guess the numbers are just discovered experimentally?  I don't have the time (or the equipment) to work out the weightings for coin production on different algos and different hardware unfortunately.  Your idea for letting the user specify the power and doing a proper cost analysis before choosing the algo is great... but again I'm not sure I have the time right now to implement that Sad 

I think I will take up foodie's offer of a nice simplified "Coins/Scrypt MH" webpage to get the numbers from and leave it at that for now.  I'll also implement a decent algo choosing mechanism - maybe based on the setting of the commands at the top of the script (ie:  no command for a given algo means leave that algo out of the running).

At some point I'll put it on github and open it up if people are interested in contributing?

Also - a question for the devs and other coin-tech people:  Is the constant switching of miners between algos in this way considered harmful to the coin?  Obviously if *all* miners were switching en-mass on the hour, it would cause some pretty wild and weird swings in difficulty and hash rates for the algos...  I know auto-switching pools are frowned upon for this reason by some people.  When you have big enough hordes of miners chasing profit from coin to coin it can severely impact hashrates and leave coins vulnerable to attack at certain times.  I suppose chasing profit *within the one coin* as we are doing here is not as bad... but then its open for analysis / discussion.

Maybe would be helpful if we could get some kind of database or a list similar to: https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison
A large sample size of various hardware configurations could yield more accurate average hashrates.
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Has anyone been able to get their Win 7 rig running R9 290's to run at greater than 640x480 headless?  If I attach a monitor I can set what resolution I want and it will stay like that after I remove the monitor however after a reboot it goes back to 640x480.  I've tried every trick I could find on the net without success   Shocked  I don't have a spare monitor I can leave attached to it either.

There is an HDMI fake monitor plug on ebay, is that the only way?

Unfortunately yes. In my rigs with R9 290 I have put one non 290's Gpu as primary card to solve this problem.

So any old card will do?
sr. member
Activity: 419
Merit: 250
Has anyone been able to get their Win 7 rig running R9 290's to run at greater than 640x480 headless?  If I attach a monitor I can set what resolution I want and it will stay like that after I remove the monitor however after a reboot it goes back to 640x480.  I've tried every trick I could find on the net without success   Shocked  I don't have a spare monitor I can leave attached to it either.

There is an HDMI fake monitor plug on ebay, is that the only way?

Unfortunately yes. In my rigs with R9 290 I have put one non 290's Gpu as primary card to solve this problem.
member
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Has anyone been able to get their Win 7 rig running R9 290's to run at greater than 640x480 headless?  If I attach a monitor I can set what resolution I want and it will stay like that after I remove the monitor however after a reboot it goes back to 640x480.  I've tried every trick I could find on the net without success   Shocked  I don't have a spare monitor I can leave attached to it either.

There is an HDMI fake monitor plug on ebay, is that the only way?
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... also using getmininginfo would require running a wallet on my mining rig (or using RPC to connect to one) which further complicates things.  That said, it would probably be an improvement to use getmininginfo, so if someone wants to send me the maths to get from the difficulties of the various algos to "Coins/Scrypt MH" then I'll update my script and post a new version using that.

it should be in a config file because 290/290x mines differently than 280x (faster skein, slower groestl for the same scrypt mhash/s)

I made a php script that does the same thing for windows:
https://bitbucket.org/iopq/automatic-algo-switcher-for-myriadcoin/

I scape the difficulties from the JSON api and my config file has the settings for an R9 290
if you want to do it from the wallet and run the wallet I suggest you use the same approach, I have scrypt disabled because it takes too much power

what you might want to also do is scrape the price info, let the user specify the power usage of each algo (and $/watt), and calculate the most profitable algo based on current price and selling immediately after mining

Hmmm I was wondering about that.  The "Coins/Scrypt MH" number seems to give me a good enough approximation of profitability for my R9 280x for my purposes, but I see that to do it properly those numbers would need to be weighted for different GPUs.  I guess the numbers are just discovered experimentally?  I don't have the time (or the equipment) to work out the weightings for coin production on different algos and different hardware unfortunately.  Your idea for letting the user specify the power and doing a proper cost analysis before choosing the algo is great... but again I'm not sure I have the time right now to implement that Sad 

I think I will take up foodie's offer of a nice simplified "Coins/Scrypt MH" webpage to get the numbers from and leave it at that for now.  I'll also implement a decent algo choosing mechanism - maybe based on the setting of the commands at the top of the script (ie:  no command for a given algo means leave that algo out of the running).

At some point I'll put it on github and open it up if people are interested in contributing?

Also - a question for the devs and other coin-tech people:  Is the constant switching of miners between algos in this way considered harmful to the coin?  Obviously if *all* miners were switching en-mass on the hour, it would cause some pretty wild and weird swings in difficulty and hash rates for the algos...  I know auto-switching pools are frowned upon for this reason by some people.  When you have big enough hordes of miners chasing profit from coin to coin it can severely impact hashrates and leave coins vulnerable to attack at certain times.  I suppose chasing profit *within the one coin* as we are doing here is not as bad... but then its open for analysis / discussion.
sr. member
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Feel free to back me up here: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/23tzg1/which_altcoin_to_hedge_risk/ch0kksp

Discussion of Myriadcoin in /r/bitcoinmarkets. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 626
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All proceeds from the dice games will currently go towards Myriadcoin development. Play for a good cause!

Addresses, rules, results and proof can be viewed here:

http://cryptap.us/myr/dice/

Since this is currently for charity, the 500 MYR bounty for flaws is rescinded. If you do find a flaw I will gladly refund any lost coins, PM me.

Feedback is welcome.

There is a new game on the dice page, a coinbomb game (also known as "hot potato"). Please let me know if there are any issues.


Another new game has been added to the dice page, a transparent Ponzi game. Invest early to receive 110% of your investment (please read the link in the rules if you seriously do not know what a Ponzi scheme is).

As always, feedback is welcome.

Keep playing, remember that 90% of proceeds go to MYR development.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Moolah is adding us to their mobile trading app as we speak!


https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/459481366233899008

How many people use moolah ? noone.

mobile trading
merchants
I've high hopes for them I think moolah is going to be a major alt player this year. also GTFO primer-
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Moolah is adding us to their mobile trading app as we speak!


https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/459481366233899008

How many people use moolah ? noone.

I'm about to.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Moolah is adding us to their mobile trading app as we speak!


https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/459481366233899008

How many people use moolah ? noone.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Moolah is adding us to their mobile trading app as we speak!


https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/459481366233899008
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
i'm just speculating and guessing so you are best advised to stick to official announcements.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
#MAMMMP is coming.

Myriad's "killer app".

Stay tuned.

multi algo
merged mining
auto exchange
multipool.

but which coins will be merge-mined?

Who is working on this app ? Auto exchange .. funny... whos the joker behind MAMAMP ?
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1240

Pools for Myriad:

https://myrgrs.suprnova.cc  - Groestl

&

https://myrskein.suprnova.cc - Skein

&

https://myrq.suprnova.cc - Qubit *NEW*


We got patched Stratum against the diff-Attacks, No fake shares are counted on all our Pools !

Our Groestl Pool would need some power...



All our Pools have now been updated with the latest wallet !



we would need some power on our qubit pool... seems no one is mining qubit at all.. Sad
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