[ANN][XMY] Myriad | Multi-Algo, Fair, Secure - page 323.

moehawk

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Quote from: jonnysomething on March 19, 2014, 02:10:38 AM

Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 11:11:07 PM

How does that look suspicious, using the groestl algo i get close to 17Mh/s each R9 290X i have 18x 290x and 2x 290 (NON X)....They don't expect everyone to have only 2x 290x..

Edit: I have sent a email, well see where we go from here.

Running SMOS with 7950's, should I be using groestl?

I prefer Groestl, but you can also use Skein.

These are the default settings for sph-sgminer using Groestl (I think these are based of r9 290, not sure) :

Code:

/sgminer -k myriadcoin-groestl -o : -u  -p  -I 19 -g 4 -w 64

More info here

Code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0

jonnysomething

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Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 11:11:07 PM

How does that look suspicious, using the groestl algo i get close to 17Mh/s each R9 290X i have 18x 290x and 2x 290 (NON X)....They don't expect everyone to have only 2x 290x..

Edit: I have sent a email, well see where we go from here.

Running SMOS with 7950's, should I be using groestl?

fiddler

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Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 11:11:07 PM

How does that look suspicious, using the groestl algo i get close to 17Mh/s each R9 290X i have 18x 290x and 2x 290 (NON X)....They don't expect everyone to have only 2x 290x..

Edit: I have sent a email, well see where we go from here.

That's some serious hardware right there... and you're dedicating it all to Myriad?

Innovative idea, check. Good perception from community check. Early days check.

Time to mine the crap out of this coin.

moehawk

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Quote from: doge94 on March 18, 2014, 11:28:24 PM

Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 11:21:48 PM

Quote from: btc-mike on March 18, 2014, 11:19:55 PM

What algo should I mine with my older ATI cards?

groestl or Skein is pretty good with old cards...but i will go groestl

Account locking is to prevent account hacking. Please be careful with your login details. I have unlocked your account.

Thank you for unlocking, My windows is fresh and my login details uses a combination of letters and symbols.. i don't understand how my account looked suspicious.

doge94

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Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 11:21:48 PM

Quote from: btc-mike on March 18, 2014, 11:19:55 PM

What algo should I mine with my older ATI cards?

groestl or Skein is pretty good with old cards...but i will go groestl

Account locking is to prevent account hacking. Please be careful with your login details. I have unlocked your account.

moehawk

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Quote from: btc-mike on March 18, 2014, 11:19:55 PM

What algo should I mine with my older ATI cards?

groestl or Skein is pretty good with old cards...but i will go groestl

btc-mike

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What algo should I mine with my older ATI cards?

moehawk

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How does that look suspicious, using the groestl algo i get close to 17Mh/s each R9 290X i have 18x 290x and 2x 290 (NON X)....They don't expect everyone to have only 2x 290x..

Edit: I have sent a email, well see where we go from here.

aakashkumar

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Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 10:39:15 PM

How do you even exploit it ?, i had over 350Mh/s, i leave for 1 hour and come back sign in and then i get a stupid msg saying i been locked. WTF is that.....i had problems with them a few weeks ago when i saw the MHS where not accurate, but when i checked it out today it seemed like the site was fixed AND BOY WAS I WRONG. I better get the coins i mined!!!

And i dont even get a email for instructions ARRRGGGHH!!!
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350mh/s ? its looks suspicious

contact site admin if you are not doing any exploit . Wink

moehawk

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Quote from: aakashkumar on March 18, 2014, 10:34:45 PM

Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 10:22:15 PM

WHY THE HELL DID I GET LOCKED FROM http://myrgroestl.stablehash.com/ I AM REALLY STARTING TO GET SICK OF THESE POOLS AND SHOULD JUST START SOLO MINING

Unable to login: Account locked. Please Check your Email for instructions to unlock.

god knows how long i was locked out, My coins better be there when it gets unlocked

Edit: By these pools i mean POOLS that screw people around

I have no problem with http://myrgroestl.stablehash.com[/b] , Payouts little bit delay but Everything Fine .

Do you did any exploit on the pool http://myrgroestl.stablehash.com[/b] ?

How do you even exploit it ?, i had over 350Mh/s, i leave for 1 hour and come back sign in and then i get a stupid msg saying i been locked. WTF is that.....i had problems with them a few weeks ago when i saw the MHS where not accurate, but when i checked it out today it seemed like the site was fixed AND BOY WAS I WRONG. I better get the coins i mined!!!

And i dont even get a email for instructions ARRRGGGHH!!!

aakashkumar

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Quote from: moehawk on March 18, 2014, 10:22:15 PM

WHY THE HELL DID I GET LOCKED FROM http://myrgroestl.stablehash.com/ I AM REALLY STARTING TO GET SICK OF THESE POOLS AND SHOULD JUST START SOLO MINING

Unable to login: Account locked. Please Check your Email for instructions to unlock.

god knows how long i was locked out, My coins better be there when it gets unlocked

Edit: By these pools i mean POOLS that screw people around

I have no problem with http://myrgroestl.stablehash.com , Payouts little bit delay but Everything Fine .

Do you did any exploit on the pool http://myrgroestl.stablehash.com ?

moehawk

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WHY THE HELL DID I GET LOCKED FROM http://myrgroestl.stablehash.com/ I AM REALLY STARTING TO GET SICK OF THESE POOLS AND SHOULD JUST START SOLO MINING

Unable to login: Account locked. Please Check your Email for instructions to unlock.

god knows how long i was locked out, My coins better be there when it gets unlocked

Edit: By these pools i mean POOLS that screw people around

neuroMode

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Quote from: foodies123 on March 18, 2014, 08:24:31 PM

Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:53:36 PM

Quote from: blacklig on March 18, 2014, 07:29:24 PM

Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:01:52 PM

I have a question....

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

Another question:

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

- nothing and I always went for GPUs instead of ASICs as ASICs are only usable for one algo.. GPU can be used over and over again for lot of algos as we see today..

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

yes, if he would be only person mining on that CPU so diff would be low at CPU algo and brutally high at SHA256. But as you can tell, this can not happen as if there is better ROI at CPU, then ppl are moving into CPU algo and increasing its difficulty thus making CPU mining less profitable. And also thay can leave SHA256 thus lowering difficulty there so making it more profitable..

Its kinda funny to see member with "100 activity" asking such questions

Right, so I guess I'm asking these questions because I cannot see the total net hash of Scrypt (I'm mining right now with my R9 290s), so I assume I cannot see the total net hash of sha-256 and other cpu algos, so I feel sort of "in the dark" as to which algo currently returns the most coins.

I understand there are different difficulties, but say for the sake of argument there are 1000 ASICs mining, 10 Scrypts, and 50000 CPUs. ASIC difficulty will naturally be much higher, but it is ALSO much higher relative to Scrypts because 10x more relative hashing power? Does the Myriad algorithm take these relative differences into account? And if so, how can we easily check them? If I knew I was 1 of 1000 other ASICs but only 10 scrypt miners were running, couldn't I switch to scrypt and make a much higher proportion of coins?

check my signature you'll find alot of info in that link, also that's the whole beauty of the coin, it's like a profit switching pool but in one algo + security + fast + fair + low cap + slow distribution.

Wow, those are fairly even distributions of hashing power. Cool website!

So how hard would it be to add a new algorithm to the pie when everything is already in motion?

neuroMode

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Quote from: foodies123 on March 18, 2014, 08:24:31 PM

Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:53:36 PM

Quote from: blacklig on March 18, 2014, 07:29:24 PM

Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:01:52 PM

I have a question....

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

Another question:

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

- nothing and I always went for GPUs instead of ASICs as ASICs are only usable for one algo.. GPU can be used over and over again for lot of algos as we see today..

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

yes, if he would be only person mining on that CPU so diff would be low at CPU algo and brutally high at SHA256. But as you can tell, this can not happen as if there is better ROI at CPU, then ppl are moving into CPU algo and increasing its difficulty thus making CPU mining less profitable. And also thay can leave SHA256 thus lowering difficulty there so making it more profitable..

Its kinda funny to see member with "100 activity" asking such questions

Right, so I guess I'm asking these questions because I cannot see the total net hash of Scrypt (I'm mining right now with my R9 290s), so I assume I cannot see the total net hash of sha-256 and other cpu algos, so I feel sort of "in the dark" as to which algo currently returns the most coins.

I understand there are different difficulties, but say for the sake of argument there are 1000 ASICs mining, 10 Scrypts, and 50000 CPUs. ASIC difficulty will naturally be much higher, but it is ALSO much higher relative to Scrypts because 10x more relative hashing power? Does the Myriad algorithm take these relative differences into account? And if so, how can we easily check them? If I knew I was 1 of 1000 other ASICs but only 10 scrypt miners were running, couldn't I switch to scrypt and make a much higher proportion of coins?

check my signature you'll find alot of info in that link, also that's the whole beauty of the coin, it's like a profit switching pool but in one algo + security + fast + fair + low cap + slow distribution.

It's only fair if these stats are publicly available to all. I'll check your link.

foodies123

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Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:53:36 PM

Quote from: blacklig on March 18, 2014, 07:29:24 PM

Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:01:52 PM

I have a question....

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

Another question:

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

- nothing and I always went for GPUs instead of ASICs as ASICs are only usable for one algo.. GPU can be used over and over again for lot of algos as we see today..

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

yes, if he would be only person mining on that CPU so diff would be low at CPU algo and brutally high at SHA256. But as you can tell, this can not happen as if there is better ROI at CPU, then ppl are moving into CPU algo and increasing its difficulty thus making CPU mining less profitable. And also thay can leave SHA256 thus lowering difficulty there so making it more profitable..

Its kinda funny to see member with "100 activity" asking such questions

Right, so I guess I'm asking these questions because I cannot see the total net hash of Scrypt (I'm mining right now with my R9 290s), so I assume I cannot see the total net hash of sha-256 and other cpu algos, so I feel sort of "in the dark" as to which algo currently returns the most coins.

I understand there are different difficulties, but say for the sake of argument there are 1000 ASICs mining, 10 Scrypts, and 50000 CPUs. ASIC difficulty will naturally be much higher, but it is ALSO much higher relative to Scrypts because 10x more relative hashing power? Does the Myriad algorithm take these relative differences into account? And if so, how can we easily check them? If I knew I was 1 of 1000 other ASICs but only 10 scrypt miners were running, couldn't I switch to scrypt and make a much higher proportion of coins?

check my signature you'll find alot of info in that link, also that's the whole beauty of the coin, it's like a profit switching pool but in one algo + security + fast + fair + low cap + slow distribution.

Tekkerr

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Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:53:36 PM

If I knew I was 1 of 1000 other ASICs but only 10 scrypt miners were running, couldn't I switch to scrypt and make a much higher proportion of coins?

Yes, every 30secs you have a 1/5th change of winning the reward no mather what algorithme you mine, but if you win with 1000 asic algo miners you devide reward with 1000 other miners = 1 coin
If you win the reward @ script with 10 miners, you devide 1000 coins reward with 10 miners = 100 coins.
But the chance of finding blocks is also higher on the asic script mining pool then. so prolly will find 10 times less a block on scrypt, so you find only 10 coins, while on asic you find 10 times more blocks, so you recieve 10 coins = balance
The independable difficulty fix that for you.

This example is that you have all the same hashrate.

neuroMode

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Quote from: blacklig on March 18, 2014, 07:29:24 PM

Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:01:52 PM

I have a question....

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

Another question:

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

- nothing and I always went for GPUs instead of ASICs as ASICs are only usable for one algo.. GPU can be used over and over again for lot of algos as we see today..

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

yes, if he would be only person mining on that CPU so diff would be low at CPU algo and brutally high at SHA256. But as you can tell, this can not happen as if there is better ROI at CPU, then ppl are moving into CPU algo and increasing its difficulty thus making CPU mining less profitable. And also thay can leave SHA256 thus lowering difficulty there so making it more profitable..

Its kinda funny to see member with "100 activity" asking such questions

Right, so I guess I'm asking these questions because I cannot see the total net hash of Scrypt (I'm mining right now with my R9 290s), so I assume I cannot see the total net hash of sha-256 and other cpu algos, so I feel sort of "in the dark" as to which algo currently returns the most coins.

I understand there are different difficulties, but say for the sake of argument there are 1000 ASICs mining, 10 Scrypts, and 50000 CPUs. ASIC difficulty will naturally be much higher, but it is ALSO much higher relative to Scrypts because 10x more relative hashing power? Does the Myriad algorithm take these relative differences into account? And if so, how can we easily check them? If I knew I was 1 of 1000 other ASICs but only 10 scrypt miners were running, couldn't I switch to scrypt and make a much higher proportion of coins?

blacklig

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Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:01:52 PM

I have a question....

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

Another question:

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

- nothing and I always went for GPUs instead of ASICs as ASICs are only usable for one algo.. GPU can be used over and over again for lot of algos as we see today..

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

yes, if he would be only person mining on that CPU so diff would be low at CPU algo and brutally high at SHA256. But as you can tell, this can not happen as if there is better ROI at CPU, then ppl are moving into CPU algo and increasing its difficulty thus making CPU mining less profitable. And also thay can leave SHA256 thus lowering difficulty there so making it more profitable..

Its kinda funny to see member with "100 activity" asking such questions

Tekkerr

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Quote from: neuroMode on March 18, 2014, 07:01:52 PM

Another question:

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

Excuse me ? You want balance between 100$ - 6000$ investment and risk ? It's fair, but not balanced ...
I'm not seeing what you mean. The ROI is completely different, normally your maintenance costs are completely different. The risks are completly different.
It's like being mad on early adopters of Bitcoin, that they made a huge profit, it was there for everyone, but not many took the baith, is it fair, yes, is it balanced no ...
Balance has nothing to do with investments, fairness has nothing to do with balance.
The way you see it, I think nothing can be fair. But it IS balanced!
The way you explain, I could buy 60 - 100$ CPU's and outmine a 6000$ ASIC, by 60 times rate. Is that balanced then ?

neuroMode

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I have a question....

What is keeping someone from selling their ASICs and buying a crapload of Video Cards and mine this coin with Scrypt instead of SHA256?

Another question:

Would someone mining with a $100 CPU make as many coins as someone with a $6000 ASIC? If not, where is this balance at exactly?

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