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Topic: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! - page 111. (Read 748616 times)

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That is my question exactly. I want to know the relationship, and how Chandran signatures come into play if stealthSend is separate. I hear comparison between StealthCoin and CryptoNote coins, but I believe they use ring signatures on the blockchain. So I confused to how Chandran signatures are used, with stealthsend.

Chandran signatures are a sub-linear ring signature system. The memory requirements scale with the square root of the number of keys in the ring. They significantly reduce the size of the block chain for medium and large-sized rings, of about 25 or more keys.

In crypto-currencies the sender must sign away funds, which accomplishes two tasks. The first is to prove ownership of the funds. The second is to authorize the transaction. The very act of signing a transaction conflicts with anonymity because the signature must be validated with a public key that is included in the transaction, and was the destination address for a previous transaction.

For anonymity, a problem arises: how can the signature be verified without revealing the source of the funds?  One way is to create some ambiguity in the transaction and make a signature that authorizes the transaction without revealing exactly which key was used to authorize it. Because the transaction network is a closed system, ambiguity must be created using elements of that system. These elements amount to the public keys found in the block chain.

A ring signature is one in which a set of these keys is used to sign a transaction in such a way that it is possible to verify that the transaction is authorized but impossible to ascertain exactly which of the keys in the ring had the signing authority.

CryptoNote ring signatures achieve anonymity by making a signature with each key in the ring. But there are two types of signatures in a ring signature. One type is for public keys not authorized to sign the transaction and the other type is for the public key that is authorized to sign the transaction. Outside of the individual who created the signatures, no one knows which signature type was used with which key. It's obvious, then, from where the bloat arises with CryptoNote transactions. A transaction using 100 keys must store those 100 keys and their 100 signatures.

Chandran signatures use the same principle except that Chandran signatures employ signatures of an unknown subset of the ring. Using a subset reduces the amount of storage for the signatures, but creates a new problem in that the identities of the keys sub-ring must be obfuscated. This is achieved by using mathematical proofs to assemble the unknown subset from the full ring. These proofs are called "non-interactive witness-indistinguishable" (NIWI) proofs.  Even though the person validating the transaction can use the proofs to derive a subset of the key ring, this person has no idea what the subset is because the subset has been mathematically scrambled during assembly. However, even though the subset is scrambled, it can still be used to verify the transaction signature and validate the transaction.


Thanks for the explanation, that is really impressive.
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Just take a few poopylax. And relax! Smiley

Hey Je_sus, if you had five loaves and two fish, how many stealthcoins could you turn that into?
Yes.

Carajo, I need an amount puta  Grin Cheesy
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Some interesting action going on over at bittrex. Looks like we are close to 12k again.  Shocked

11750 - I'm keeping my 12k-celebration-picture in reach, this is just the beginning of the mintpal-induced hype we'll get.


relevant:

https://i.imgur.com/CRvcXVn.gif
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Mintpal ... should ... deliver ... any ... minute ... now ...

I'm sleepy but I won't miss this, making coffee right now. Last ATH was around 14k, this time 15k should be the next floor (not only because of mintpal and trading fees, but because of the growing userbase that we get through mintpal).

You really should pull some sell orders to smooth the ride. Thank me later.
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Bowl is packed, dunno what to expect. DMT, Yeah buddy!!!

Its a trip man... hope you enjoyed it
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INTERVIEW WITH SOEPKIP, CLICK TO WATCH : :



Man I can´t stop LOL

IKR  that dance OMG
Whacha gonna do?  Gonna dance right outta here.
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Bowl is packed, dunno what to expect. DMT, Yeah buddy!!!
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Oh man... this thread is getting crazy! Thanks to Tor, I'm gonna say hello to the machine elves... right now! :-P
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Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
Coins are removed from circulation, effectively placed in escrow when they are placed in an anonymous output.
We need to prove that we redeemed an output, without revealing which output was redeemed and a redeem transaction would look like a coinbase.
The redeem transaction destroys one of the anonymous outputs but it is not possible to know which one was destroyed.
It won't be possible to use the same output twice, as it would require a secret key which becomes known to everyone when the output is redeemed.
The zk-proof proves the secret key is linked to an output in the set, but only the redeemer knows which one. -SDCDev
No one on the shadow thread posted this. I gave them plenty of opportunity. It's an insufficient description, but a lot better than I got on the shadow thread. It looks like the idea is to use zk-proofs to circumvent public key cryptography. I'll find out if this is something that has shown up in the literature as the theory should be in place before the application. If the shadow dev had a citation to this effect somewhere on the OP, then we might be talking.
or you could just wait about 15 days when ZK is implemented in shadow   Grin  Thus leaving your tech that wont be out till November outdated and obsolete... but its ok when ZK is opensourced Hondo can copy and paste that

I'm not going to buy vapor concepts. Hondo has cited literature that outlines the theory behind his plans. The post above doesn't address theory at all. So my money wouldn't chase it. You can bet with yours. I like sure things.


*cough* https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/879.pdf *cough*

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Lmao.. that is one funny clip.
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cryptocrap and crazytrain is one user, keep quoting his own posts as no one give a crap. Oh the cry for attention.

I'm not crazy train ... from where did you get this stupid idea ? The video is pretty funny  Grin

by the way when the moon comes ?  Undecided
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Just take a few poopylax. And relax! Smiley

Hey Je_sus, if you had five loaves and two fish, how many stealthcoins could you turn that into?
Yes.
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cryptocrap and crazytrain is one user, keep quoting his own posts as no one give a crap. Oh the cry for attention.
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Just take a few poopylax. And relax! Smiley

Hey Je_sus, if you had five loaves and two fish, how many stealthcoins could you turn that into?
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Pushing real hard!
Wow I should have never dumped XST at 9k. Time to  buy back in.
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Coins are removed from circulation, effectively placed in escrow when they are placed in an anonymous output.
We need to prove that we redeemed an output, without revealing which output was redeemed and a redeem transaction would look like a coinbase.
The redeem transaction destroys one of the anonymous outputs but it is not possible to know which one was destroyed.
It won't be possible to use the same output twice, as it would require a secret key which becomes known to everyone when the output is redeemed.
The zk-proof proves the secret key is linked to an output in the set, but only the redeemer knows which one. -SDCDev
No one on the shadow thread posted this. I gave them plenty of opportunity. It's an insufficient description, but a lot better than I got on the shadow thread. It looks like the idea is to use zk-proofs to circumvent public key cryptography. I'll find out if this is something that has shown up in the literature as the theory should be in place before the application. If the shadow dev had a citation to this effect somewhere on the OP, then we might be talking.
or you could just wait about 15 days when ZK is implemented in shadow   Grin  Thus leaving your tech that wont be out till November outdated and obsolete... but its ok when ZK is opensourced Hondo can copy and paste that

I'm not going to buy vapor concepts. Hondo has cited literature that outlines the theory behind his plans. The post above doesn't address theory at all. So my money wouldn't chase it. You can bet with yours. I like sure things.


*cough* https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/879.pdf *cough*

INTERVIEW WITH SOEPKIP, CLICK TO WATCH : :



Man I can´t stop LOL
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Just take a few poopylax. And relax! Smiley
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WOW so much crap in this thread. Had to scroll through like 6 pages to find like one or two things worth reading. Seriously guys just ignore the trolls!
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We'll update the website and OP within a few hours if it's not already done. It's been busy in the last couple of days, but we'll catch up with the little things soon.



Syncing with the New Build Made Easy

1. Back up your wallet
2. Stop the old client
3. Go to the application data directory
4. Remove blk0001.dat, blkindex.dat, database, db.log, and debug.log
5. Download the block chain data with the links above, appropriate to your system
6. Unpack the block chain data into the application data directory
7. Start the new client
8. It may take 2 or three minutes to grab peers
9. The chain may take 5 to 10 minutes to sync


It works great! Very fast! Smiley Thanx for a new update!

Thanks, the new wallet works great!!!
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We'll update the website and OP within a few hours if it's not already done. It's been busy in the last couple of days, but we'll catch up with the little things soon.



Syncing with the New Build Made Easy

1. Back up your wallet
2. Stop the old client
3. Go to the application data directory
4. Remove blk0001.dat, blkindex.dat, database, db.log, and debug.log
5. Download the block chain data with the links above, appropriate to your system
6. Unpack the block chain data into the application data directory
7. Start the new client
8. It may take 2 or three minutes to grab peers
9. The chain may take 5 to 10 minutes to sync


It works great! Very fast! Smiley Thanx for a new update!
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