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sr. member
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Hello,

I'm trying to get YACoin QT Client compiled for OSX.  I feel like i'm getting pretty close, but i'm stuck on a bunch of ASM, and i'm not super awesome with ASM.

I think it's all coming from scrypt-x86_64.S
Code:
{standard input}:5:Alignment too large: 15. assumed.
{standard input}:14:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
{standard input}:14:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
{standard input}:15:32-bit absolute addressing is not supported for x86-64
{standard input}:15:cannot do signed 4 byte relocation
{standard input}:89:suffix or operands invalid for `ja'
{standard input}:105:suffix or operands invalid for `jne'
{standard input}:108:Unknown pseudo-op: .type
{standard input}:108:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 115 (s).
{standard input}:109:Unknown pseudo-op: .size
{standard input}:109:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 115 (s).
{standard input}:113:Alignment too large: 15. assumed.
{standard input}:207:suffix or operands invalid for `ja'
{standard input}:223:suffix or operands invalid for `jne'
{standard input}:226:Unknown pseudo-op: .type
{standard input}:226:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 115 (s).
{standard input}:227:Unknown pseudo-op: .size
{standard input}:227:Rest of line ignored. 1st junk character valued 115 (s).

I am building with QT Creator, and using GCC (not CLANG).  I unravelled the macros in the ASM with pooler's perl tool. 

I assume someone has already figured this out because there is a NovaCoin QT for OSX and it uses the exact same ASM file.

Any help or advise would be appreciated!
sr. member
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I have compiled Windmaster's client on my old notebook, but somehow I'm unable to download the whole blockchain flawlessly, it went fine at the beginning, but now I'm stuck at about 10000 blocks remaining and it just stops there. When I restart client, it downloads few hundreds of blocks and stops again.
Any suggestions? There were no errors during compilation... And it's 32bit ubuntu 12.04

What does the output from the "getinfo" and "getpeerinfo" commands look like at the point it stops downloading?  How much CPU time is the yacoind process consuming at that point (ps -aux | grep yacoind)?  And what does the output from yacoind look like (start it with -printtoconsole so it doesn't become a daemon, and instead prints all it's messages directly)?
sr. member
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Finally got my GPU hashing, but 4 times slower than mtrlt's.

7950 @ 207KH, (N = 256), Downgrade to 750MHZ Core Speed.

That approximately jives with what I benchmarked your code at (at least the code you posted earlier in the thread) after fixing the problems with it, if we take into account the different cards we're using (I tested on a 6950).  As a point of curiosity, how many hours did it take you up to the point you posted your code, and how many hours after that to figure out what was still wrong?
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I have compiled Windmaster's client on my old notebook, but somehow I'm unable to download the whole blockchain flawlessly, it went fine at the beginning, but now I'm stuck at about 10000 blocks remaining and it just stops there. When I restart client, it downloads few hundreds of blocks and stops again.
Any suggestions? There were no errors during compilation... And it's 32bit ubuntu 12.04
sr. member
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Finally got my GPU hashing, but 4 times slower than mtrlt's.

7950 @ 207KH, (N = 256), Downgrade to 750MHZ Core Speed.
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hmm good future.
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Quoted for the lulz.

Merged mining draws 0 additional power so it is more money for no additional cost.

CPU mining draws a hell of a lot of power compared to CPU idling. 100W more does cost additional money.

$1 a day vs cost of powering 100W for 24 hours ( 0.24 kwh ) --- which is greater ?

Haha, allow me to quote you for the lulz as well: 100W * 24h = 0.24kWh? Where can I sign up for that electricity contract?! Wink

0.1kW * 24 hours = 2.4kWh. At 0.1-0.2$/kWh you end up paying between 0.24-0.48$/day.
IF you make 1$/day with 100W it would be profitable to mine yacoin ignoring depreciation etc.
I am paying close to 0.2$/kWh so I am only mining for fun when I do so.
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1)for intel I5 3570 , you can get around 8-10 coins per day .

2)My AMD fx -8300 is getting 12 coins per day and yac is extra product while i am minning LTC since YAC only use your cpu power no GPU. in this case , I got 2 LTC form my AMD 7950 and 12 YAC from my CPU at the same time every day.


by the way , i am doing pool mining and p2pool as backup


Some user statistics until May 14 when the N increased in the algorithm. Current hashrate decreased by 50% average.
Intel Core2 Duo L9400: 14 KH/s [SSSE3 version]
Intel Core2 Duo P8600: 52 KH/s [SSSE3 version]
Intel Core2 Duo T6600: ~50 KH/s [SSSE3 version]
Intel Core2 Duo T9400: 69 KH/s [SSSE3 version]
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600: 180-190 KH/s [SSSE3 version, 3.6GHz]
Intel Core i3 3220: 120-130 KH/s [-t 10]
Intel Core i5 760: 160 KH/s
Intel Core i5 760: 192 KH/s [3.8GHz]
Intel Core i5 2430M: is not working
Intel Core i5 2450M: 105 KH/s [AVX version, 2.9 GHz]
Intel Core i5 2500K: 200 KH/s [AVX version, 3.6GHz]
Intel Core i5 2500K: 230 KH/s [AVX version, 4.2GHz]
Intel Core i5 2500K: 275 KH/s [4.5GHz]
Intel Core i5 2500K: 270 KH/s [AVX version, ? GHz]
Intel Core i5 2600K: 300 KH/s [AVX version, 4.2 GHz]
Intel Core i5 2520M: is not working
Intel Core i5 3210M: 94-104 KH/s
Intel Core i5 3470: 200-210 KH/s [AVX version]
Intel Core i5 3570k: 170-180 KH/s [-t 3]
Intel Core i5 3570k: 207 KH/s [-t 3, 4.2 GHz]
Intel Core i5 3570k: 300 KH/s [AVX version, 4GHz, -t 10]
Intel Core i5 3570k: 315 KH/s [AVX version, 4.7GHz]
Intel Core i7 2670QM: 120+ KH/s [2.2GHz -t 6]
Intel Core i7 2600K: 320 KH/s
Intel Core i7 2600K: 320 KH/s [AVX version, 4.43 GHz]
Intel Core i7 2600K: 325 KH/s [SSSE3 version, 4.43 GHz]
Intel Core i7 3770K: 310-320 KH/s [AVX version, -t 10, 4.2 GHz]
Intel Core i7 3930K: 425 KH/s [SSSE3 version, -t 8, 4.7 GHz]
Intel Xeon W3520: 200 KH/s
Intel Xeon 5345: 240 KH/s [SSSE3 version, -t16]
2x Intel Xeon E5649: 482 KH/s [SSSE3 version, -t20, 2.533 GHz, Windows Server 2008, HP ProLiant DL360 G7]
Intel Xeon E7520: 1165 KH/s [IBM x3850, SSSE3 version, -t 63, 1.87 GHz, Windows Server 2008]
AMD K8 3200+: 20 KH/s [SSSE3 version]
AMD Phenom II X4 940: 140-160 KH/s [SSSE3 version, Windows XP 64]
AMD Phenom II X4 955: 105 KH/s [SSSE3 version]
AMD Phenom II X6: 190 KH/s [SSSE3 version, 3.0 GHz]
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T: 250 KH/s [SSSE3 version, 3.6 GHz]
AMD A10 4655M: 60 KH/s [AVX version]
AMD FX-8350: 280 KH/s
AMD FX-8320 : 190 KH/s [-t 6]
AMD Opteron 6247: 590 KH/s [-t 31, 2.3 GHz]
AMD Opteron 6128: 900 KH/s [SSSE3 version, -t 32, 2.5 GHz, Windows Server 2012]
How do I even calculate the profit I can make using YAC ?
How many coins per day ?
What is difficulty ? What is block reward ?

http://yacexplorer.tk/chain/Yacoin

As for profitability, there is no calculator I know of but you can easily find it out if you join some YAC pool and hash there for a while, there are usualy stats for YAC per day. Once
your local hashrate is close to hashrate shown by pool, check estimated YAC per day and then check exchange rate on Bter or Vircurex.
newbie
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I am asking one simple thing :

How do I even calculate the profit I can make using YAC ?

How many coins per day ?

What is difficulty ? What is block reward ?

Nobody seems to know this.

Maybe someone with a 2600K CPU can chime in and tell us how many YAC he makes / day or something Huh

A bit of manual hand-crafting?

You can get all that information from the client with the getmininginfo command. Then it's a matter of doing the math.

If you can't be bothered with that, simply join a pool and the pool will simplify all this and tell you the estimated YAC/day.

But to be honest, I think you are deviating the thread. This is a thread about development and technical aspects of YAC, I think it would be better if you opened another thread to ask these questions.
hero member
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I am asking one simple thing :

How do I even calculate the profit I can make using YAC ?

How many coins per day ?

What is difficulty ? What is block reward ?

Nobody seems to know this.

Maybe someone with a 2600K CPU can chime in and tell us how many YAC he makes / day or something Huh
sr. member
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$1 a day vs cost of powering 100W for 24 hours ( 0.24 kwh ) --- which is greater ?

Mining YAC with your hardware is not profitable, get over it. Most people I know are not mining anything but they have invested some money in certain cryptocoins. Get my drift?

I dunno im happy that I can now use my work pcs to mine something. Also once gpu mining for this coin is adopted and public price will shoot up Smiley
sr. member
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No mining profitability calculator ?

Current block reward size ?

Current difficulty ?

How much expected hashrate with 2600K CPU ?

Is this profitable or not ATM ?



Of course its profitable. What would you mine else with your cpu? This is the only coin at the moment that is cpu only.

So how much $$$ per day using a 2600K. Please show detailed calculations if possible. There seems to be no profit calculator at all for YAC.

I ran some numbers and it came to about $1 / day only if you got lucky solo mining. Maybe my numbers were wrong ?

IMHO at those levels it is not profitable unless you got free electricity.

I think you are missing the point here. IF you already running a GPU mining rig for LTC/NVC/PPC you making some profits +you can now mine YAC at the same time using cpu for extra $$ . Just like you could mine NMC and DVC with all sha256 coins you can now also add YAC with all GPU rigs.
 
So yes it is profitable, think of it as merged mining coin which adds extra % to ROI

Quoted for the lulz.

Merged mining draws 0 additional power so it is more money for no additional cost.

CPU mining draws a hell of a lot of power compared to CPU idling. 100W more does cost additional money.

$1 a day vs cost of powering 100W for 24 hours ( 0.24 kwh ) --- which is greater ?

Well my power cost is 0.06kWh. Also they way I have been mining for 2 years is I mine for 12months before I sell off month 1 profits and so on.

This realizes the most amount of profits and generally pays for the whole year of mining costs in 2~3 months worth of sells offs. I only take out small amounts to cover line of credit payments at the time which is like $50 a month for each 10k loan, rest I keep in the operation as it costs me nada.

 Now since my HW is paid for I only pull out 30% in Fiat and 20% in Gold bullion a month for year prior and keep a spreadsheet to keep track of each month. I also now set up a 20% for trading and speculation.

 I am mining yac atm and not looking to sell at this price as my mining model is different and for me this makes sense from every angle Smiley

PS bulanula: Why scam people? This market has been more then rewarding for all with minimum investment and little patience, really dont get the point.
hero member
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No mining profitability calculator ?

Current block reward size ?

Current difficulty ?

How much expected hashrate with 2600K CPU ?

Is this profitable or not ATM ?



Of course its profitable. What would you mine else with your cpu? This is the only coin at the moment that is cpu only.

So how much $$$ per day using a 2600K. Please show detailed calculations if possible. There seems to be no profit calculator at all for YAC.

I ran some numbers and it came to about $1 / day only if you got lucky solo mining. Maybe my numbers were wrong ?

IMHO at those levels it is not profitable unless you got free electricity.

I think you are missing the point here. IF you already running a GPU mining rig for LTC/NVC/PPC you making some profits +you can now mine YAC at the same time using cpu for extra $$ . Just like you could mine NMC and DVC with all sha256 coins you can now also add YAC with all GPU rigs.
 
So yes it is profitable, think of it as merged mining coin which adds extra % to ROI

Quoted for the lulz.

Merged mining draws 0 additional power so it is more money for no additional cost.

CPU mining draws a hell of a lot of power compared to CPU idling. 100W more does cost additional money.

$1 a day vs cost of powering 100W for 24 hours ( 0.24 kwh ) --- which is greater ?
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well, atm network hashing power seems to go up again.

At least the pool i am mining for went up from 18MH/s yesterday to 53MH/s today

http://yac.ltcoin.net

Probably because dontmine.me closed all his pools, including YAC.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
No mining profitability calculator ?

Current block reward size ?

Current difficulty ?

How much expected hashrate with 2600K CPU ?

Is this profitable or not ATM ?



Of course its profitable. What would you mine else with your cpu? This is the only coin at the moment that is cpu only.

So how much $$$ per day using a 2600K. Please show detailed calculations if possible. There seems to be no profit calculator at all for YAC.

I ran some numbers and it came to about $1 / day only if you got lucky solo mining. Maybe my numbers were wrong ?

IMHO at those levels it is not profitable unless you got free electricity.

I think you are missing the point here. IF you already running a GPU mining rig for LTC/NVC/PPC you making some profits +you can now mine YAC at the same time using cpu for extra $$ . Just like you could mine NMC and DVC with all sha256 coins you can now also add YAC with all GPU rigs.
 
So yes it is profitable, think of it as merged mining coin which adds extra % to ROI
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
No mining profitability calculator ?

Current block reward size ?

Current difficulty ?

How much expected hashrate with 2600K CPU ?

Is this profitable or not ATM ?



Of course its profitable. What would you mine else with your cpu? This is the only coin at the moment that is cpu only.

So how much $$$ per day using a 2600K. Please show detailed calculations if possible. There seems to be no profit calculator at all for YAC.

I ran some numbers and it came to about $1 / day only if you got lucky solo mining. Maybe my numbers were wrong ?

IMHO at those levels it is not profitable unless you got free electricity.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
No mining profitability calculator ?

Current block reward size ?

Current difficulty ?

How much expected hashrate with 2600K CPU ?

Is this profitable or not ATM ?



Of course its profitable. What would you mine else with your cpu? This is the only coin at the moment that is cpu only.
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Shitcoin Maximalist
Let's hope mtrlt either holds on to his GPU kernel like it appears he has to this point, or if released, it's released to all. Anything else risks the stability of the YaCoin network.

This is indeed my plan.

So, theoretically, what would happen to YAcoin if GPU mining was available to all right now, and suddenly came to a halt in August? What technical consequences would there be? How long would it take difficulty to readjust back to a level where CPU mining was viable?

edit: I should learn to read more.

The other risk here is a possible inadvertent "difficulty attack" if this N=8192 issue is real and a GPU miner is released to all. At that point, difficulty would increase sharply, and once N=8192 is hit, drop off a cliff. I wonder if there would be enough hash power after that to get it back to a sane level without necessitating a hard fork like feathercoin has done (maybe WindMaster has more input on this). Also, whether POS minting would be enough during that time to validate new transactions on the network. Maybe others much more knowledgeable than I on these matters could comment.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
No mining profitability calculator ?

Current block reward size ?

Current difficulty ?

How much expected hashrate with 2600K CPU ?

Is this profitable or not ATM ?

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