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Topic: [ANN][ZANO] New Sources|1st ProgPowZ|PoW/PoS Hybrid|Scalable|Private|Contracting - page 20. (Read 36573 times)

hero member
Activity: 976
Merit: 646
One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)

ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.

You talking about things which are not related.
Power consumption is just a part of the coast of mining(the other part is hardware coast) and will be nearly the same for all miners, it just a part of the coin price factors.  

And my goal is not to make coins which is cheap to mine (and actually, expensive mining will pull up the price).  

My goal is to have PoW hash function which is perfectly fit to modern video cards presented on the market, this strategy proved to be effective.

WK2 from this perspective obviously less protected, and you being insisted so much to stay with WK2, expect me to make this project fit your particular farm or give you a chance to have private miner with performance advantages over the others?

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I can remember some engineers, like cbuchner for example, who was doing "killing" with the private optimized miner which they implemented, and this was painful, and was big pressure on the price, and was a lot of FUD because of this, but I respected these guys, they were pretty open about what they do and never pretended to be good friends of the project.




I pay .18 cents a kw. Progpow maybe unmineable. Wildkeccak is the way to go.

The main factor in mining is the electricity .... nothing else.


The only problem with wild keccak is that memory hardness itself seems to be not enough to have relatively strong PoW algo in this days.


legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)

ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.

I pay .18 cents a kw. Progpow will be maybe unmineable. Wildkeccak is the way to go.
The main factor in mining is the electricity .... nothing else.




One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)

ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.

You talking about things which are not related.
Power consumption is just a part of the coast of mining(the other part is hardware coast) and will be nearly the same for all miners, it just a part of the coin price factors. 

And my goal is not to make coins which is cheap to mine (and actually, expensive mining will pull up the price). 

My goal is to have PoW hash function which is perfectly fit to modern video cards presented on the market, this strategy proved to be effective.

WK2 from this perspective obviously less protected, and you being insisted so much to stay with WK2, expect me to make this project fit your particular farm or give you a chance to have private miner with performance advantages over the others?

--------

I can remember some engineers, like cbuchner for example, who was doing "killing" with the private optimized miner which they implemented, and this was painful, and was big pressure on the price, and was a lot of FUD because of this, but I respected these guys, they were pretty open about what they do and never pretended to be good friends of the project.




I pay .18 cents a kw. Progpow maybe unmineable. Wildkeccak is the way to go.

The main factor in mining is the electricity .... nothing else.
hero member
Activity: 976
Merit: 646
One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)

ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.

You talking about things which are not related.
Power consumption is just a part of the coast of mining(the other part is hardware coast) and will be nearly the same for all miners, it just a part of the coin price factors.  

And my goal is not to make coins which is cheap to mine (and actually, expensive mining will pull up the price).  

My goal is to have PoW hash function which is perfectly fit to modern video cards presented on the market, this strategy proved to be effective.

WK2 from this perspective obviously less protected, and you being insisted so much to stay with WK2, expect me to make this project fit your particular farm or give you a chance to have private miner with performance advantages over the others?

--------

I can remember some engineers, like cbuchner for example, who was doing "killing" with the private optimized miner which they implemented, and this was painful, and was big pressure on the price, and was a lot of FUD because of this, but I respected these guys, they were pretty open about what they do and never pretended to be good friends of the project.


jr. member
Activity: 88
Merit: 1
One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)

ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.
jr. member
Activity: 64
Merit: 2
Wild keccak was so nice... small power draw, stable... With ProgPOW power draw is higher, summer is comming, cooling fans are shaking...
I prefer wild keccak 1, 2 or wtv version will be...
hero member
Activity: 976
Merit: 646
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
What is max supply? Is there any ICO where are all the coins how they came etc. I were really surprised to see you havent filled the thread with pictures and that's from scratch. Will be around for a while Smiley
hero member
Activity: 976
Merit: 646

Good news!

Finally got binaries for new testnet(with some fresh fixes):

Windows: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-win-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d]-installer.exe  
Linux: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-linux-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].tar.bz2
MacOs: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-macos-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].dmg



crypto_zoidberg links aren't working.

Damn,
Does anyone know how to escape "]" symbol interpretation as a tag closer?

.....
UPD: links fixed

I think I found how.  Smiley

Windows:http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-win-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d]-installer.exe  
Linux:http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-linux-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].tar.bz2
MacOs: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-macos-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].dmg


EDIT: That didn't work either.  Cheesy


yeah, it's tricky, i used % to encode characters to proper url, seems that worked
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
hero member
Activity: 976
Merit: 646

Good news!

Finally got binaries for new testnet(with some fresh fixes):

Windows: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-win-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d]-installer.exe  
Linux: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-linux-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].tar.bz2
MacOs: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-macos-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].dmg



crypto_zoidberg links aren't working.

Damn,
Does anyone know how to escape "]" symbol interpretation as a tag closer?

.....
UPD: links fixed
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003

Good news!

Finally got binaries for new testnet(with some fresh fixes):

Windows: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-win-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d]-installer.exe  
Linux: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-linux-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].tar.bz2
MacOs: http://build.zano.org:8081/builds/zano-macos-x64-v1.0.9[43faf7d].dmg



crypto_zoidberg links aren't working.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
When will you launch it??

We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb

Dear friend
When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes!

My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows.

I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin?
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1116
When will you launch it??

We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb

Dear friend
When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes!

My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows.

I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin?
hero member
Activity: 976
Merit: 646
When will you launch it??

We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb

Dear friend
When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes!

My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows.

I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin?
sr. member
Activity: 1419
Merit: 275
Community built, Privacy driven
When will you launch it??

We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb

Dear friend
When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes!

My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows.

i hope it is. Anything else would be quite retarded.

It has no logic that number of max coins would be the same. Zano will for sure have higher max supply then BBR.

It will be also interest to see how will Zano compete with two new Mimblewimble coins that are also coming in January Grin and Beam.
beam is already out, though Grin intrigues me the most. However, Zano's WP is the most impressive of them all. Personally, I'm sticking to Zano based on the strength of its WP and the reputation of the team - weird, right? Would like to know if the swap is 1:1 though
I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin?
hero member
Activity: 976
Merit: 646
Hi folks!
Good news!

I've restarted new testnet (CURRENCY_FORMATION_VERSION 76) but new binaries are not ready yet since we have some problems with Jenkins server. You can re-build from sources but make "clear" before you build, please. What's new: 500Mb scratchpad with light mode(actually light mode only right now, even for mining), new difficulty adjustment algorithm(as it was discussed recently)

New binaries coming soon.
Peace!
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
any news about launch?

Can't say about the launch of main net, but i'm definately going to relaunch testnet in next 2 days.

BOOM, I'll take it! Any details on updates within the wallet that will be pushed?

Mostly it's a new difficulty adjustment + WildKeccak with 500MB scratchpad/light scratchpad.

Sounds good to me crypto_zoidberg. Thx  Smiley

Good indeed! Any timeline when the WildKeccak variant will be implemented into the testnet? Would love to do some fine tuning on the rigs Smiley

From what I hear...it will be soon...very soon.  Smiley
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