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community takeover!    you are not very good at this....zzz

fork away from asics just so that fpga will dominate against gpu? currently an fpga has same hashrates as the asics that came out, do you know how to prgram an fpga? does moest people know how to prgram an fpga? can you have a gpu with 128gb mem per card? well good news for you fork away and fpga with 128gb mem will just follow but thing is most people wont be able to use an fpga, why do you think etn and sumo went back to the original algo? i also have 1080ti but and now i just point it to ravencoin but even on that algo it sure has fpga running. i just accept the fact we have been fooled by buying the idea of going anti asic, they sold us the idea and we bought it and while they advocate anti asic they mine with fpga having complete dominance over gpu miners. just accept the fact gpu mining is dead, its either fpga or asic now

if ypu want to go anti asic then you better start learning how to code on vhdl and verilog now, also learn basic electrnics. even if you know how to do all of that there is still no guarantee you can mine with fpga, prog pow? lol any idea on software can be done on hardware, any fpga engr can tell that to you. im slowly selling my gpu anyway bought the sept batch of z9, wasnt able to buy the first batch now was i able to buy the cryptonight asic or any other asic until this sept batch thats coming but makes no difference since fpga are also 2months lead time when you buy them but most people wont be able to learn how to code an fpga.  btc was first mined with cpu then gpu then asic.... wait thats not true, people forgot that before asics mined btc 4-6 months fpga devs mined btc using fpga and they did it secretly and when asics came they sold those fpga  and thats the time people learned of fpga but was pointless already since asics beat fpga. 

just to give you an idea, an fpga that was suppoed to mine btc 6years ago can still mine more btc than the nxt gen best gpu and that fpga runs 40watts only considering thats a 6year old tech, the fpga coming on aug can accomodate 128gb of mem lol maybe even the best gpu for 2030 might not be even be able to beat that, so lets just accept the fact that gpu mining era is over and just choose fpga or asic, btw intel is researching into reprohgrammable asics while bitmain has an ai asic chip lol so its just who of them gets the nxt discovery, intel bought eASIC last week and  is pouring resorces from altera and intel into eASIC for the reprogrammable asic chips

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I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you have anything to lose by forking away from ASICs. I think it is pretty clear that the net benefit of forking away from ASICS is higher than the net benefit of keeping with ASIC algorithms, especially if the focus is on decentralisation.

Back when there were no ASIC Equihash miners, you didn't hear anyone in the community saying 'you should fork TO an ASIC algorithm!', while now there is plenty of support to fork away from an ASIC. The community sentiment is clearly in the direction of less ASICs and more mining decentralisation

I bet if the Zen voting system was implemented tomorrow and you had a vote on this issue, you'd have a pretty clear result in support of GPU mining.

But if you wait too long, the damage may be done and perhaps through ASICs/Bitmain, Zen ownership may become a little too centralised and who knows what the outcome of the vote would be.

I'm still of the view that Zen in many hands is the best way forward to increase adoption. As a side, this is another reason I really didn't like the Binance Zen listing competition, which required some like 30k USD in Zen purchases to be close to being eligible.

This is our plan to fight 51% attack in the future
https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-leads-the-fight-against-the-51-attack/

https://zencash.com/assets/files/A-Penalty-System-for-Delayed-Block-Submission-by-ZenCash.pdf

That a true minefield - I guess which are the long term consequences of such a change. No risks of 51% Attacks?
How is ZEN Handling ths Whole issue? I understand there has just been a fork?

Hi
First you should check that you have latest version of Swing wallet!

Second whatever you do first backup your wallet and your private keys on the safe location!

Third you should delete old wallet application, and install new one,

please check this link - >
https://zencash.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ZEN/pages/7176693/ZENCashWallet+Swing+Wallet+-+Backup+and+Upgrade

Well this is partly truth, because we don't make decisions on our own, we listen community and Yesterday's fork is an answer on many requests from community to increase  Revards for Secure Node and to increse number of Coins needed for Nodes.
Now we have Secure Nodes and Super Nodes and they are direct answer at those questions.

You got clear answer that we have plants to do something regarding ASIC without doubt, this is official statement https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-statement-on-potential-equihash-algorithm-change/  But we don't want to rush, to do something without investigation and testing! Nor we want to give you false confidence and sense that we are going into the  "WAR against ASIC", only to gain some cheap points from miners, like some others who manipulating those feelings of yours..

There will be always those who are not satisfied , this why we are implementing voting system so everybody who owns some ZEN will be able to govern this project directly using their rights to vote and make proposals.

Sorry but this was not anti ASIC fork.

https://blog.zencash.com/mandatory-upgrade-zen-2-0-14-super-nodes/

The updated software included significant code improvements and adjusted the rewards to add a new node class: Super Nodes. https://zencash.com/supernodes/



Fork implemented block reward changes  10% 10% 10% 70%

ZenCash today goes on stage again! Find us at Campus Party Italia on the Entrepreneurship stage!

We are working on usability and acceptance through various partnerships:

An Expansion In Usability, ZenCash Accepted On MindGeek Websites
https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-now-accepted-on-pornhub-websites/

Spend ZenCash Wherever You Go With Paytomat!
https://blog.zencash.com/spend-zencash-with-paytomat/

25% of all $ZEN in circulation is now locked up in Secure Nodes and Super Nodes
https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/1019938120274362369

Isn't this wonderful? Fork went flawlessly..

It is indeed up to the developers to decide if they want to fork away so GPU miners can be the ones securing ZEN blockchain.
But a clear answer is not too much to ask for?

About GPU taking over for CPU, you got a valid point! Wasnt around then, but i imagine some people with CPU riggs complaining

So i downloaded the new GUI wallet a while back... it did not work-- unexpected critical error, cannot connect to server.

I later tried Zend --reindex... ran through the whole block chain.  Closed it, tried Gui wallet, still did not work.

Tried some other things, then reindexed again.  Still wallet did not work.

tried running gui wallet while zend ran in a separate window, and that worked.

closed zend window, wallet stopped working...

If i try running just the GUI wallet without manually starting zend, I still get the same unexpected critical error.

Is it intended that zend has to be started in a separate window?  Or is this a bug or a problem with my setup?

-J

And PS~ GPU miners simply moved on to other coins.  What are you going to do when the new Z9 makes your mini Z9 obsolete?

all you butt hurt gpu miners need to get a life. im sure you were saying the same thing when gpu's took over cpu's...NOT!

Z coins are zer0coin protocol =) it's not going to shift down is it?

ZET ZEN ZEC ALL THE SAME PEOPLE? =)

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