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Topic: Another crypto youtuber given a ban for breach of terms of service. (Read 613 times)

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Google is definitely up to something. After all, it is unlikely that they do it for good reasons.
legendary
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So I'm guessing the algorithm doesn't like the word cryptocurrency and scam being mentioned together in a video or what? Because I'm very sure there are videos that talk much about scam but they have not been removed from the YouTube platform. This has been something that is targeted at cryptocurrency YouTubers, because this is not the first time it is happening.

There has been a few channels that talks about cryptocurrency on YouTube that got their videos taken down, so this is not something new. And YouTube did apologize to all of them then and said that there is no way to recover those videos.
While watching tone vays, a crypto youtuber, yesterday they did mention why their channel was banned.
Youtube gave the reason of it being deemed as "Dangerous content" and then after review of the video which was reported, removed the ban and reopened their account for adding videos again. They mentioned after this their channel has since been put a flag so to show whoever or whatever audits his channel that it was given the "O.K" and cleared of it being banned from this report in the future. It does seem automated or why else would they put a flagged reminder to not just instantly ban his channel like what happened a month ago?
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So I'm guessing the algorithm doesn't like the word cryptocurrency and scam being mentioned together in a video or what? Because I'm very sure there are videos that talk much about scam but they have not been removed from the YouTube platform. This has been something that is targeted at cryptocurrency YouTubers, because this is not the first time it is happening.

There has been a few channels that talks about cryptocurrency on YouTube that got their videos taken down, so this is not something new. And YouTube did apologize to all of them then and said that there is no way to recover those videos.
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^^^^
I think this youtuber is the only one who has a pretty successful number of subscribers to their channel pertaining to cryptocurrencies and not getting one of these letters from youtube. Only because he discusses it in a light tone and how it functions at times as a farce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFnpUNyutMA
At one time in this latest video he puts on a blindfold while doing his technical analyst of the bitcoin price. Cheesy
Now this is what we all need in the cryptospace right now.
To not take each other so serious at times like this. Smiley
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YouTube is known for deleting/banning crypto videos and I think this happened based on reports and feedback from users that hates the channel.

The algorithm doesn't care about who you're, once you have a lot of negative feedbacks and reports. You get banned and appeal is very hard on YouTube, they don't respond except from the automated Q&A
true, Banned treatment only occurs if the report from the reporter is correct...
little do I know that the youtube algorithm will process a report, then the youtube security will conduct an investigation of the report, if they find a serious violation then the reported youtube account will be banned.
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Clear cut why they have had anything to do with crypto in their cross hairs.
Thanks alot garlinghouse! Roll Eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swMmbDiC8X8
I do not agree with chico crypto and do not like their channel but they were the only one who directly saw xrp's law suit as the main reason why youtube/google had been doing this to the crypto youtubers since then.
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Youtube developers need to do a proper job and build codes that only target violators and not this type of educator who try to make people understand subjects that are as technical as cryptocurrency. They should ban Youtubers who advise investors to buy new ICo, who promote coins to attract pumping and others not the ones into analysis and education.
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The well known crypto information channel had been taken down at around the same time as tone vays youtube channel was over the weekend.
He was one of two who received the notice from the video streaming platform but have since had their channel reinstated by going through the same process tone vays did by going to twitter for voicing to their fan base in support of their favorite crypto youtuber Ben from btc sessions.
He posted a video right after his appeal was heard and retracted almost immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGHojpGofBI

I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos. Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251067820852428800
He had stated in the above video he had helped retrieve money from a scammer and gave it charity but this was over a year ago.
So I dont know why their algorithm is reaching so far back in their investigation process.

https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251185902275031040

So ben did do a test stream the next day. Here is how that went after the ban was lifted. Cheesy
https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251352982886600705

The notice told that he hasn't reviewed the Community Guidelines where he has spams, scams, and deceptive content. Probably, some may have been reporting his account many times and that Youtube examined his channel carefully. It's sad to think that Youtube or the people has been thinking Bitcoin is a scam. When in fact, they haven't seen proofs that is very real and very helpful for people like us. I just hope he'd retrieve his account, 'cause damn, 4 years or hard work isn't a joke.
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Why does Youtube do this? After all, it is obvious that this will only lead to dissatisfaction with the crypto community
I think this is unfortunate news to hear. I heard that YouTube is banning contents that have connection with cryptocurrency and now having a exampe of a person that get banned because of upoading a video
Could be because of the giveaways scams that happened several months and still happening on popular Youtube channels and they are very strict now and monitoring these Crypto channels anyway they do have a terms of service if there is really violation you be disable but if you don't have one and just a miscommunications it will be reinstated.
Why does Youtube do this? After all, it is obvious that this will only lead to dissatisfaction with the crypto community

Could be because of the giveaways scams that happened several months and still happening on popular Youtube channels and they are very strict now and monitoring these Crypto channels anyway they do have a terms of service if there is really violation you be disable but if you don't have one and just a miscommunications it will be reinstated.
I think that this is unfortunate. I heard that youtube is banning contents from the creators that uploads videos that have connection with cryptocurrencies. I hope they will stop on banning creator content just because of cryptocurrency. I think that they are banning them because of the violations in terms of service but I think that they just don't want to have that kind of contents in YouTube. I also think that it is connected to the incident that happen several months ago. If that is the case then it is unfair if the creator did nothing wrong. I hope that youtube will change its system because people only want to help others.
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How do you even start it? If creators move first, they will have to endure huge loses until their audience comes, many of whom might never follows, and also creators' subscriber growth will be greatly reduced, because a decentralized platform will have a fraction of Youtube's users, and there won't be any sort of advanced algorithm that matches viewers with new creators.

And if the users move first, then again why would creators move to a minority platform if they can stay on Youtube and keep making more money.

Right now Youtube is an undisputed monopolist of mainstream video hosting, even centralized competitors are miles behind it, so what chance do the decentralized ones really have? I think they will keep being a small niche tool for people who need their exact properties like censorship resistance.

The same way people migrate their stores off Ebay or Amazon into something under their own control. Build a following and then point them to the new location. You're guaranteed to lose 80-99% of people who can't be bothered but you might hang on to enough.

It beats being rubbed out by an algorithm.

How much money do crypto youtubers make through it? It's something I've never bothered to investigate.
In the previous youtubers video I posted inregards to btcsessions losing access to his channel the owner of it named ben mentioned in the first few minutes this was his lively hood. So they do make quite a bit if a grown man from north america (canada to be more specific) can call what they make a living for them. As they would make more than $3500 per month for certain working a salary job. On average $21 /hr is normal for a north american salary.
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Why does Youtube do this? After all, it is obvious that this will only lead to dissatisfaction with the crypto community

Could be because of the giveaways scams that happened several months and still happening on popular Youtube channels and they are very strict now and monitoring these Crypto channels anyway they do have a terms of service if there is really violation you be disable but if you don't have one and just a miscommunications it will be reinstated.
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Youtube want to purge all crypto content
All these are just conspiracy. Facebook and twitter did worse and now considering a share in the asset. These men are very active on twitter and share similar thought there and even extensive on youtube for video lesson lovers. I consider Tone Vays a matured speaker than in last 4 years, when he was lousy . I consider him conservative in crypto prediction than ever and he is long term maxima-list and investors, both in his project and others, he did a lot to attract by bitcoin give away in the early days on bitcoin. He is back on youtube and he is not the type that can be intimidated.
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I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos. Roll Eyes
That could be it, or it might not.  When you're dealing with YouTube, there's no telling exactly why your video(s) are removed.  Sometimes they seem to do it according to their whims, with no apparent reason that the average person would find rational.

I don't watch a lot of crypto vids, so this isn't excactly impacting me directly, but it sucks for a lot of people when Youtube starts doing this.  I had a feeling YT was just doing a dress rehearsal a few months ago when they were taking down crypto content (to gauge reaction), and I figured they wouldn't stop unless there was a major groundswell of opposition. 
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YouTube is known for deleting/banning crypto videos and I think this happened based on reports and feedback from users that hates the channel.

The algorithm doesn't care about who you're, once you have a lot of negative feedbacks and reports. You get banned and appeal is very hard on YouTube, they don't respond except from the automated Q&A
Youtube admit before with the error on deleting post about cryptocurrency but if the youtube channel was reported by the haters then it must be a good reason. I don’t think Youtube is against to cryptocurrency again, we are growing and many social media already show their support to bitcoin and that is a good sign, something must be wrong on his channel.
legendary
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IMO, some crypto YouTubers are only supporting sites that are simply a Ponzi, and I think that might be the reason his channel was removed from YouTube. If he is not really violating YouTube's community guidelines then he can appeal to unban his channel. There are plenty of cryptocurrency channels posting an instructional video but they weren't prohibited. As long as, it's informative and doesn't have a motive to promote Ponzi or HYIP, problems will not occur. YouTube's algorithm is a mess, there's a possibility that it might be a mistake and they should review the video.
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YouTube is known for deleting/banning crypto videos and I think this happened based on reports and feedback from users that hates the channel.

The algorithm doesn't care about who you're, once you have a lot of negative feedbacks and reports. You get banned and appeal is very hard on YouTube, they don't respond except from the automated Q&A
legendary
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Funny how none of the BSV channels are being removed....

It could be related to the lawsuit Ripple have launched against Youtube for hosting videos using their name and the likeness of their chief penis to do giveaway cons. Since 'Ripple' and 'scam' fit together rather nicely in the mouth from whatever angle you take perhaps they have a bot that's gone mad.
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Funny how none of the BSV channels are being removed....

Just a side note most or all of the above have been a target by a well known figure openly speaking about bout Tone on a number of occasions from the BSV side.

I wonder if they have anything to do with the removals I highly doubt youtube algo's just go bonkers and start removing channels that have for a long period of time been on the right side of youtube's rules.

What is more possible is someone creating a tool that auto flag's specific users content as soon as it's live then continues  to report older videos as harmful.

Something to think about anyway.

I hope the above channels can have manual reviews as many of them have been very helpful and give good advice to there viewers all apart from the above one in connection to the bitconnect he should be banned for life.
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How do you even start it? If creators move first, they will have to endure huge loses until their audience comes, many of whom might never follows, and also creators' subscriber growth will be greatly reduced, because a decentralized platform will have a fraction of Youtube's users, and there won't be any sort of advanced algorithm that matches viewers with new creators.

And if the users move first, then again why would creators move to a minority platform if they can stay on Youtube and keep making more money.

Right now Youtube is an undisputed monopolist of mainstream video hosting, even centralized competitors are miles behind it, so what chance do the decentralized ones really have? I think they will keep being a small niche tool for people who need their exact properties like censorship resistance.

The same way people migrate their stores off Ebay or Amazon into something under their own control. Build a following and then point them to the new location. You're guaranteed to lose 80-99% of people who can't be bothered but you might hang on to enough.

It beats being rubbed out by an algorithm.

How much money do crypto youtubers make through it? It's something I've never bothered to investigate.
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Though google is quite a tyrannical corp, it's more than likely it happened automatically, the service doesn't have enough people to manually check all the content. I wouldn't be surprised though, even if they knew they banned crypto channel, they wouldn't restore it if not for considerable fanbase
I remember hearing like months ago that most of the channels related to crypto currencies that got banned was a mistake. Their algorithm went rouge and started to flag contents that were talking about crypto currencies since that algorithm took them for ponzie promoter.
If I recall correctly, all those accounts were unbanned and their contents were restored. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just testing something and it went wrong, or was checking how the community would react if crypto related topics were removed from youtube (which made no sense?).
It is because of channels which I have posted above your reply which blatantly promote and advertise known ponzi schemes which have given anything crypto related on youtube a bad name.
You know who that is right? Undecided
Because obviously hatshepsut93 does not. They did not reply when I quoted their post about the smaller channels getting waved by to continue on with their habits of spreading crypto malware to the masses on their platform and actually thriving. Embarrassed
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