Another crypto youtuber given a ban for breach of terms of service. - page 3.

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Quote from: boltinblue on April 21, 2020, 08:48:53 AM

We can all rant and rave at YouTube's policies, but the truth is we need YouTube more than they need us. Losing a few crypto-influencers means nothing in the grand scheme of things. YouTube have your habits, watch history, search history, basically your life. They know what to push infront of your eyes as alternative media. There's no stopping the Google/YouTube juggernaut.

Oh but there is. Wink

When somebody calls out their ceo on their misuse of their own policies to pick and choose who uses their platform. Which is against the law in the land of the free and home of the brave. Roll Eyes

This might fly in communist countries such as north korea with their own karen but with a company running in the united states under their corporate acts.
I highly doubt that. Undecided

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We can all rant and rave at YouTube's policies, but the truth is we need YouTube more than they need us. Losing a few crypto-influencers means nothing in the grand scheme of things. YouTube have your habits, watch history, search history, basically your life. They know what to push infront of your eyes as alternative media. There's no stopping the Google/YouTube juggernaut.

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Well the same happened to a bigger and more well known youtuber whose account was similarity flagged at the start of this purging of the cryptoinfluencers as I like to put it. Grin

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I think I know this guy here, He is banned? I wonder what's going on with youtube nowadays. He can be not teaching unnecessary things or something that will break the youtube's rules and regulations cause he was doing this for years now. His channel is one of the channel that I recommended in my thread. This will affect the crypto community on youtube, they need to be careful now cause they are being hunted one by one.

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Why does Youtube do this? After all, it is obvious that this will only lead to dissatisfaction with the crypto community

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I don't think that the Youtube algorithm has something to do with this.
I guess that this guy has some competitors or enemies that are mass reporting his videos(maybe the scammer that he retrieved the money from wants vengeance).
It's good to know that he had his Youtube channel back after going thru the process.
If Youtube recovers crypto related channels,this means that they have nothing against crypto content and they aren't mass banning cryptocurrency related channels and videos.

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Migrating to another platform is not as easy as it sounds. You need audience to make money, Youtube has the biggest audience, the rest of them, probably not that many. On top of that, saying most of them are scammers doesn't give you the right to randomly issue a ban just because they post a vid talking about crypto or scam.

Defining a problem exist when it affects your favorites while ignoring it if it happens to 'nobody' is just weird imo.

Quote from: Paycoinzzz on April 21, 2020, 12:49:26 AM

The algorithm is never wrong and it only follows what the creator has programmed.

If that were true, why they remove the ban? Don't think Youtube is a god. They make mistakes here and there. This is not the first case, and probably there will be more. I don't know this guy but some of my favorites channels got the same troubles, from their copyright systems that is so fucked up.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on April 21, 2020, 12:16:16 AM

I personally don't care about any crypto youtubers, so many of them are actually promoting scams or just giving poor advice, they are the same as those low-quality Medium bloggers or crypto news sites writers. If youtube banned Andreas Antonopoulos, then I'd be quite frustrated, but as long as it's some nonames, I'm not going to grab a pitchfork.

And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

I was thinking about moving from Youtube to LBRY because the revenue is much better. DTube is another option. I'm a crypto Youtuber myself and I don't make money in any of my videos because of my ineligibility to be a Youtube partner, but I got deeply concerned on how they handled accounts like this. I still don't forget about the first series of Youtube incidents that a lot of crypto Youtubers having their channels banned (but was reinstated afterwards). Youtube is a centralised video sharing platform, so we don't have some sort of freedom here.

I'm surprised that a lot of people are not yet taking LBRY or DTube seriously. However, they do have limits like we cannot upload videos more than 1 GB. I've uploaded a video on Youtube recently about my webinar replay that is over 2 hours of interview and almost 8 GB. This is the only downside of decentralized video platforms for now if uploading to their server directly than syncing Youtube videos.

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The algorithm is never wrong and it only follows what the creator has programmed. This YouTube channel has been reported by many haters for the same reason and more specifically this is a channel talking about cryptocurrency. Although I don't work much on youtube, I know that YouTube doesn't support media channels like this. maybe that's the main reason for banning his channel this time.
but anyway I support this action of youtube, there have been too many scam ICO projects and too many people have lost money. YouTube just wants people to have a safe, entertaining environment to enjoy it.

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Quote from: rdbase on April 20, 2020, 05:42:08 PM

I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos. Roll Eyes

i think it is initially done based on the reports these videos receive then based on their subject. and considering the fact that all the youtube videos i have seen removed or the accounts that i have seen suspended were either promoting some sort of scam or have been misleading people with their "market analysis" which was basically drawing random lines on charts, i say the removal is well deserved unless proven otherwise.

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I personally don't care about any crypto youtubers, so many of them are actually promoting scams or just giving poor advice, they are the same as those low-quality Medium bloggers or crypto news sites writers. If youtube banned Andreas Antonopoulos, then I'd be quite frustrated, but as long as it's some nonames, I'm not going to grab a pitchfork.

And if these crypto guys are so cool, why don't they move to some decentralized video hosting service? They talk about crypto and blockchain, yet they still choose to stick with the centralized platform, because that's where the money is.

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I dont know really but this tweet from a fan put it quite on the spot of what everybody who has a channel discussing crypto thinks of how youtube handles their streamers.

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It's really sad seeing giant social medias such as YouTube ban crypto related channel, it's sending out a bad message to the outside world about how not to trust this space cause most people already have doubts about cryptocurrency so when they see giants companies banning crypto related contents, it's solidify their mindset about not trusting this space. I think the crypto world needs to empower one of our own contents platform so that we won't get shut out completely from posting crypto related contents across these platforms one day

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Quote from: rdbase on April 20, 2020, 05:42:08 PM

The well known crypto information channel had been taken down at around the same time as tone vays youtube channel was over the weekend.
He was one of two who received the notice from the video streaming platform but have since had their channel reinstated by going through the same process tone vays did by going to twitter for voicing to their fan base in support of their favorite crypto youtuber Ben from btc sessions.
He posted a video right after his appeal was heard and retracted almost immediately.

I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos. Roll Eyes

Looking at the sequence of events i do not think that their algorithm is targeting these accounts, even i was seeing many complaints regarding crypto channels getting their account suspended and then getting reinstated, there is another possibility for the bans, if some group is targeting these channels and if youtube get mass reports regarding a certain channel then they will suspend the channel default and unless we hear a clear response for the termination from them we can only speculate. I do not think that they retracted because of the fans protesting because they know clearly that if a channel who has a decent following is taken down, they will protest.

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The well known crypto information channel had been taken down at around the same time as tone vays youtube channel was over the weekend.
He was one of two who received the notice from the video streaming platform but have since had their channel reinstated by going through the same process tone vays did by going to twitter for voicing to their fan base in support of their favorite crypto youtuber Ben from btc sessions.
He posted a video right after his appeal was heard and retracted almost immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGHojpGofBI

I think the algorithm youtube is using has targeted these particular accounts due to the subject matter they are streaming about. One being cryptocurrency and two the word scam in some of their videos. Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251067820852428800
He had stated in the above video he had helped retrieve money from a scammer and gave it charity but this was over a year ago.
So I dont know why their algorithm is reaching so far back in their investigation process.

https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251185902275031040

So ben did do a test stream the next day. Here is how that went after the ban was lifted. Cheesy

https://twitter.com/BTCsessions/status/1251352982886600705

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