Antminer D3 Blissz firmware (10/12 v1.12 update)

Desolutionary

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Quote from: sanitariu on January 17, 2018, 09:30:21 AM

Desolutionary - give more information about that version. You can PM me. I am using beta 2

Yeah no sorry. I respect the work Blissz has done and was using v1.12 on 3x D3 for a fair while but the re-connection after dev fee was a killer for me (I missed probably 20~ hours of mining over a week before I switched);so I'm not going to distribute a customer version of his firmware. Someone previously in the thread was saying they were going to release one so I was purely saying someone has already done it.

blissz

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Hi all,

As you might have noticed there is some discussion going on about the GPL license of the cgminer software that's used in my firmware.
I was not aware of this GPL license, but I am now, and I am quite sure the source should be published.
As I don't have enough time to do it now and want to do it properly I decided to temporary remove the download link to the modified firmware and lock the topic until this GPL issue is resolved. This will prevent that this topic get's locked / removed for ever and valuable information gets lost.
I hope I can resolve this issue as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenience,

ciao Blissz

ps. Please respect this and don't PM me for links to the firmware.

Jup1t3rR

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Hate to break it to a few people but there is already a no dev fee version of 1.12v floating around out there, and after testing it I can confirm it fixes the issues where the miner switches to dev fee then fails to connect properly back to the user pool.

https://image.ibb.co/fhstP6/Nofee.jpg

Can you pls pm me the link?

greyday

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Quote from: HavenZone on January 18, 2018, 03:24:12 AM

Quote from: ruptan on January 18, 2018, 02:11:06 AM

Blissz,
I think you should take the binaries offline and let these people fend for themselves. By using the scare tactics these people are only harming them selves. Did Bitmain share their software with the people? They used CGMiner software on D3 as well. Thank you for your wonderful work.

It's a shame it never got to a stable v2 for this... but I agree that Blissz should not give up the code. Why do any of this and not be compensated for the work. I thank him for what he did already and he should just let the rest use the D3 as the space heater it has become. The version I have is stable enough that I will keep it along with many others in this thread and Blissz will keep getting the devfee from us (even thou its only about $0.07 a day per unit). He would need at least 100 units running the devfee to make up having one unit to himself. again I say don't release it and just take it down and let these people who couldn't do it on their own to keep running the standard D3... it is barely making them any money at this point and they might just shut them off helping the rest of us with this FW.

Trust in the community. He will still make money (and with it released on github, probably more than he is currently in the long run). Remember we all know how to remove dev fees from Claymore and XMR-STAK, for example, yet a lot of us leave them in to support future dev.

That said, and as I said in the L3+ thread, I think locking the thread and removing the link to the firmware until the issue is resolved is the better approach, so that the support information in this thread is not lost for people already using it...

HavenZone

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Quote from: ruptan on January 18, 2018, 02:11:06 AM

Blissz,
I think you should take the binaries offline and let these people fend for themselves. By using the scare tactics these people are only harming them selves. Did Bitmain share their software with the people? They used CGMiner software on D3 as well. Thank you for your wonderful work.

It's a shame it never got to a stable v2 for this... but I agree that Blissz should not give up the code. Why do any of this and not be compensated for the work. I thank him for what he did already and he should just let the rest use the D3 as the space heater it has become. The version I have is stable enough that I will keep it along with many others in this thread and Blissz will keep getting the devfee from us (even thou its only about $0.07 a day per unit). He would need at least 100 units running the devfee to make up having one unit to himself. again I say don't release it and just take it down and let these people who couldn't do it on their own to keep running the standard D3... it is barely making them any money at this point and they might just shut them off helping the rest of us with this FW.

ruptan

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Blissz,
I think you should take the binaries offline and let these people fend for themselves. By using the scare tactics these people are only harming them selves. Did Bitmain share their software with the people? They used CGMiner software on D3 as well. Thank you for your wonderful work.

deezhere

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Quote from: bitsolutions on January 17, 2018, 10:01:04 PM

Quote from: blissz on January 16, 2018, 11:52:04 AM

Hi All,

I wasn't aware of the GPL license, so I did some investigation last days. After reading the GPL licenses I can conclude that stangerm2 is right. So that means I do have to provide the modified sources as most of the current modifications are now build on top of a linked module in cgminer.

There are some consequences in releasing the source though:

- As far as I know, Bitmain is free to use these improvements in their current and their new products they will sell. I do hope they compensate these free goodies with a multi algorithm D3 firmware one day

- There will probably appear modified firmware binaries which can cause damaging your miners if the maker doesn't know what he's doing...
- I had plans to buy a S9 as there are a lot of requests and make a modified S9 version, but I might consider not to jump on that boat for now. (let's first see what will happen with the D3)

Legit alternatives instead of releasing the sourcecode

- I stop this project and take the binaries offline. I don't like this option, as the whole idea is to help improve the situations for the D3 owners.
- Temporary I take the binaries offline and I will write something from scratch / not linked to the sources of cgminer. This will take away the consequences, but a lot of time and effort (at least a month or two) will be put into something that will probably not lead to any improvements for you guys.

My proposal

- Although these consequences I will release source of a stable version (non BETA) that allow others to investigate the voltage / fan mods / fault check improvements I did. (devfee related code will be removed from the source). This allow others to look into the changes I did to make a binary for themselves without devfee.
BETA functionality will be left out of the source right now since it's not yet stable and will create dangerous situations when used in a wrong way. I might have to restrict the use of a BETA versions to a closed group instead of providing a public link to the BETA versions.

Happy mining

Ciao Blissz

To add some encouragement to getting the source released, I'll be issuing a DMCA takedown to have bitcointalk remove this thread for copyright violations in 24 hours if the complete corresponding source code for all the distributed firmware binaries is not uploaded by then. I am a one of a number of cgminer copyright holders.

Blissz, I believe everyone here is greatful for the work and effort you've done to improve upon the D3. If you haven't already looked into github I would recommend you publish your source there. It's designed for just this purpose and makes it easy to commit new changes as you go. Thanks for the improvements and I hope this work continues into the future in a manner that is open and fair to all.

bitsolutions

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Quote from: blissz on January 16, 2018, 11:52:04 AM

Hi All,

I wasn't aware of the GPL license, so I did some investigation last days. After reading the GPL licenses I can conclude that stangerm2 is right. So that means I do have to provide the modified sources as most of the current modifications are now build on top of a linked module in cgminer.

There are some consequences in releasing the source though:

- As far as I know, Bitmain is free to use these improvements in their current and their new products they will sell. I do hope they compensate these free goodies with a multi algorithm D3 firmware one day

- There will probably appear modified firmware binaries which can cause damaging your miners if the maker doesn't know what he's doing...
- I had plans to buy a S9 as there are a lot of requests and make a modified S9 version, but I might consider not to jump on that boat for now. (let's first see what will happen with the D3)

Legit alternatives instead of releasing the sourcecode

- I stop this project and take the binaries offline. I don't like this option, as the whole idea is to help improve the situations for the D3 owners.
- Temporary I take the binaries offline and I will write something from scratch / not linked to the sources of cgminer. This will take away the consequences, but a lot of time and effort (at least a month or two) will be put into something that will probably not lead to any improvements for you guys.

My proposal

- Although these consequences I will release source of a stable version (non BETA) that allow others to investigate the voltage / fan mods / fault check improvements I did. (devfee related code will be removed from the source). This allow others to look into the changes I did to make a binary for themselves without devfee.
BETA functionality will be left out of the source right now since it's not yet stable and will create dangerous situations when used in a wrong way. I might have to restrict the use of a BETA versions to a closed group instead of providing a public link to the BETA versions.

Happy mining

Ciao Blissz

To add some encouragement to getting the source released, I'll be issuing a DMCA takedown to have bitcointalk remove this thread for copyright violations in 24 hours if the complete corresponding source code for all the distributed firmware binaries is not uploaded by then. I am a one of a number of cgminer copyright holders.

dalu1

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Performing it is a better way of learning things

stangerm2 your altitude was a little strong, but it was for a good cause. Open source benefits everybody. I think you are doing fine.

stangerm2

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Quote from: TunerDude007 on January 17, 2018, 01:54:32 AM

Quote from: stangerm2 on January 16, 2018, 12:52:51 PM

You know what, fuck it, Blissz do what you want man. I'm not going to bother you or mess with your project or your code. I just wanted to help you and contribute to the project but I re-read my posts and I've been a monster. I'm sorry for that. Do whatever you feel like. I'm not going to do anything.

Why were you such an asshole and then you go and retract it all and say fuck it? Did you just want to prove you could be a monster and get him to give in, and then once you saw you won you said fuck it?? Wow...
You know, he's helped us out a sure hell of a bunch more then you have.

I still think keeping the code closed is wrong, morally, yet I empathize with his concerns (Bitmain using the code, idiots trying to modify it and wreaking peoples gear, ext). Ultimately though, I changed my mind because I didn't like the person I was being and I was not proud of my means to the end attitude. I realize people here don't get software and certainly don't get open-source, generally speaking, but it's a progress thing and I see people don't get that, they keep thinking it's about the fee. I did get what I wanted, Blissz knows now and he will have to figure out for himself what is right and wrong. I got carried away in making this an ultimatum, when all I wanted to do was send a message.

https://i.imgur.com/Vg2lZTR.jpg

stangerm2

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Quote

Without Bitmain's source none of this would be possible. Without cgminer's source, Bitmain couldn't have made the original product. Without many other packages also included and freely sourced cgminer couldn't have made their software etc.... The GPL exists for a reason, to stop people from stealing code and repackaging it as their own and to further advancement in a free and open way.

My man. Thank you, you get it.

tufail_74

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I hope the dust is settled and let us request blissz to concentrate in finalization of V2

sanitariu

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Desolutionary - give more information about that version. You can PM me. I am using beta 2

deezhere

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Quote from: SimpleCoin8 on January 17, 2018, 07:43:38 AM

Blissz, don’t release your source code to anyone. It’s yours. If people don’t want to support the dev fee, they can revert to the firmware provided by Bitmain. If you could introduce a better way to get the dev fee that would allow for more stable mining, that would be great though.

No need to release your code to these whining people.

Most of us have no problem with the dev fee or a flat fee and for those that do it's very easy to work around and disable altogether. Flat fee would be preferred though however, when you claim he shouldn't release the source and that it's his you couldn't possibly be more wrong. Ask yourself, why does Bitmain release their source instead of just claiming it as their own? Without Bitmain's source none of this would be possible. Without cgminer's source, Bitmain couldn't have made the original product. Without many other packages also included and freely sourced cgminer couldn't have made their software etc.... The GPL exists for a reason, to stop people from stealing code and repackaging it as their own and to further advancement in a free and open way.

Blissz' work is great here and by releasing the source he's doing the right thing. He can continue to improve upon it and continue to leave the dev fee in if he chooses. Others should also be free to see his changes to the source and also improve upon them. If this isn't acceptable then I would encourage everyone to work together here to build a new firmware completely from scratch and license it with something like the MIT license without using any software that's currently licensed under the GPL. Without releasing the source, he would be opening himself up to multiple lawsuits should his real identity ever be discovered.

Please don't encourage theft, the crypto community has enough problems to deal already. No need to throw potential lawsuits into the mix as well.

rvalente

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Quote from: SimpleCoin8 on January 17, 2018, 07:43:38 AM

Blissz, don’t release your source code to anyone. It’s yours. If people don’t want to support the dev fee, they can revert to the firmware provided by Bitmain. If you could introduce a better way to get the dev fee that would allow for more stable mining, that would be great though.

No need to release your code to these whining people.

AGREED! Perfect! Keep that to you... Anyone that does not like to contribute... Use the sucking bitmain firmware back.

SimpleCoin8

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Blissz, don’t release your source code to anyone. It’s yours. If people don’t want to support the dev fee, they can revert to the firmware provided by Bitmain. If you could introduce a better way to get the dev fee that would allow for more stable mining, that would be great though.

No need to release your code to these whining people.

Bajula

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Quote from: TunerDude007 on January 17, 2018, 01:54:32 AM

Quote from: stangerm2 on January 16, 2018, 12:52:51 PM

You know what, fuck it, Blissz do what you want man. I'm not going to bother you or mess with your project or your code. I just wanted to help you and contribute to the project but I re-read my posts and I've been a monster. I'm sorry for that. Do whatever you feel like. I'm not going to do anything.

Why were you such an asshole and then you go and retract it all and say fuck it? Did you just want to prove you could be a monster and get him to give in, and then once you saw you won you said fuck it?? Wow...
You know, he's helped us out a sure hell of a bunch more then you have.

While I disagree with what he was threatening, I can understand the why. I don't think it was about winning, it was about the license rules.. or perhaps integrity and the good of the community. From his side violating the gpl (which really should be written a little more clearly by the way. hehe) was a greater detriment than the wide-spread use of the firmware was a benefit. Now he seems to have changed his mind. Nothing wrong with that.
But what do I know, maybe he has that hang-dog thing where once you start on something you find it difficult to let go (I know I do) and he had a "dickish" day and it went from there? aaaaand now he's changed his mind. Again, nothing wrong with that* I don't really know, but I do know that attacking someone who has moved over to your side of an argument (or at least stopped opposing you) it not going to do anyone any good. (Well a little venting never hurt anyone.. unless you vent with a baseball bat in your hand.. don't vent with a baseball bat in your hand.. or an axe.. )

*I'm aware american society at least has started placing a value on hurt feelings as if they were physical injuries, so if you view it that way then you disagree with my "nothing wrong with that" statement. Though I will defend the statement with : People need to learn the difference between being emotionally abused and having their feelings hurt. - just sayin'

Okay dunno how I got all philosophical in the middle of that, but hey.. I'm pretty much all about spewing stuff off the top of me head soooo.. post!

rvalente

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Quote from: Ubersonic on January 17, 2018, 04:05:53 AM

Quote from: blissz on January 16, 2018, 11:52:04 AM

Hi All,

I wasn't aware of the GPL license, so I did some investigation last days. After reading the GPL licenses I can conclude that stangerm2 is right. So that means I do have to provide the modified sources as most of the current modifications are now build on top of a linked module in cgminer.

There are some consequences in releasing the source though:

- As far as I know, Bitmain is free to use these improvements in their current and their new products they will sell. I do hope they compensate these free goodies with a multi algorithm D3 firmware one day

- There will probably appear modified firmware binaries which can cause damaging your miners if the maker doesn't know what he's doing...
- I had plans to buy a S9 as there are a lot of requests and make a modified S9 version, but I might consider not to jump on that boat for now. (let's first see what will happen with the D3)

Legit alternatives instead of releasing the sourcecode

- I stop this project and take the binaries offline. I don't like this option, as the whole idea is to help improve the situations for the D3 owners.
- Temporary I take the binaries offline and I will write something from scratch / not linked to the sources of cgminer. This will take away the consequences, but a lot of time and effort (at least a month or two) will be put into something that will probably not lead to any improvements for you guys.

My proposal

- Although these consequences I will release source of a stable version (non BETA) that allow others to investigate the voltage / fan mods / fault check improvements I did. (devfee related code will be removed from the source). This allow others to look into the changes I did to make a binary for themselves without devfee.
BETA functionality will be left out of the source right now since it's not yet stable and will create dangerous situations when used in a wrong way. I might have to restrict the use of a BETA versions to a closed group instead of providing a public link to the BETA versions.

Happy mining

Ciao Blissz

*Ahem*

There is also option Z, where you just carry on regardless and nobody without their head up their arse really minds as you're doing the community a service. I mean it's not like you're actually doing anything illegal by violating the GPL (it's a civil matter not criminal).

I'd be up for continuing to trial any new unpublished BETAs though.

Simple : Blissz start selling it`s bios mod with Paypal option. Lock the bios version someway based on the Asic Serial number. Done!

Ubersonic

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Quote from: blissz on January 16, 2018, 11:52:04 AM

Hi All,

I wasn't aware of the GPL license, so I did some investigation last days. After reading the GPL licenses I can conclude that stangerm2 is right. So that means I do have to provide the modified sources as most of the current modifications are now build on top of a linked module in cgminer.

There are some consequences in releasing the source though:

- As far as I know, Bitmain is free to use these improvements in their current and their new products they will sell. I do hope they compensate these free goodies with a multi algorithm D3 firmware one day

- There will probably appear modified firmware binaries which can cause damaging your miners if the maker doesn't know what he's doing...
- I had plans to buy a S9 as there are a lot of requests and make a modified S9 version, but I might consider not to jump on that boat for now. (let's first see what will happen with the D3)

Legit alternatives instead of releasing the sourcecode

- I stop this project and take the binaries offline. I don't like this option, as the whole idea is to help improve the situations for the D3 owners.
- Temporary I take the binaries offline and I will write something from scratch / not linked to the sources of cgminer. This will take away the consequences, but a lot of time and effort (at least a month or two) will be put into something that will probably not lead to any improvements for you guys.

My proposal

- Although these consequences I will release source of a stable version (non BETA) that allow others to investigate the voltage / fan mods / fault check improvements I did. (devfee related code will be removed from the source). This allow others to look into the changes I did to make a binary for themselves without devfee.
BETA functionality will be left out of the source right now since it's not yet stable and will create dangerous situations when used in a wrong way. I might have to restrict the use of a BETA versions to a closed group instead of providing a public link to the BETA versions.

Happy mining

Ciao Blissz

*Ahem*

There is also option Z, where you just carry on regardless and nobody without their head up their arse really minds as you're doing the community a service. I mean it's not like you're actually doing anything illegal by violating the GPL (it's a civil matter not criminal).

I'd be up for continuing to trial any new unpublished BETAs though.

ollieskats

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you know a lot of people donates, Just saying if you are going to release a non dev fee, you should put your coin addresses somewhere so we can donate.

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