software is firmware .. I mean software for the web page with the settings and everything else .. I .. on the charging system that can update via the microSD controllers .. I would like to reinstall the firmware on any version controller
Topic: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon - page 29. (Read 137428 times)
I hate to be the bearer of good or bad news, but Bitmain just relisted the L3+ on the site with ship dates now out in July!
What, I thought it was May 5th? Im still trying to put BTC together, and now it's July? What kind of garbage is that, especially since they still want the same price.Forget that crap.
All the people who ordered when it was May 5th should be screaming for a refund... I would not accept a 2 month delay.
Well I think they sold out of the first 2 batches and that was where the April and the May dates came from. If you ordered and have been confirmed paid you will get your miner shipped on the dates they posted. However it appears they are "pre-sale" on the next batch which is July now. So it looks like if you don't jump in and buy it now then you may not get a shot at buying them. At least that is my read on the situation. This is absolute BS, but it is what it is...
My A4's would have generated the 0.1 BTC in 24 hours, that 24-hour delay cost me 2 months. How can I not be upset.
I think they should just continue shipping miners between May 5th and July and not hold onto them. If they simply shipped them in the order they were bought then there would be no issue, but a 2 month delay and no break in price?
Glad for everyone who get's there miners shipped on the 5th, but for the rest of us, it really sucks. I still don't see why they can't ship any between May 5th and July, just really sucks.
Personaly, I think I will forget this miner and go to Baikal instead...
to be fair its not their fault that people didnt have the coins to buy the miners before they sold out. the reason for the 2 month delay might not be related to wanting to hold onto them....they may have sold out and maybe had a large private order that has them backed up until the date they posted. or they may need to have miners produced and dont expect the components to be ready for assembly until around that date. either way im sorry you couldnt get one but third party sellers will have them im sure if your willing to spend a few more bucks....otherwise you will have to wait for the next batch.
If someone has the pre L3 software .. I would take to reinstall it on your controller ... I got one piece that just turned on lights up the red LED flashes and does not load the web thanks
Maybe I'm missing something; I thought the l3's were stand alone units? What Pre l3 software do you need to install?
https://www.eastshore.xyz/tutorial-antminer-l3-litecoin-miner-250mh-400w-for-scrypt-mining/
It seems like you simply log in to the unit, configure it, and... you're mining?
If someone has the pre L3 software .. I would take to reinstall it on your controller ... I got one piece that just turned on lights up the red LED flashes and does not load the web thanks
That still doesn't explain why sell them that cheap. They will slel out them even at 2k$, even before LTC Segwit happens, price is so cheap is really screams after broken car salesman or some scammer. Maybe takes as much money as you can, before company goes bye-bye
I doubt they will make x11 rigs. Baikal very efficent draws little power and is stable. Not much space for Bitman to enter. Now making ETH/ZEC ASIC is alredy an intresting option. Especially as Antpool has ZEC and ETH pools.
I doubt they will make x11 rigs. Baikal very efficent draws little power and is stable. Not much space for Bitman to enter. Now making ETH/ZEC ASIC is alredy an intresting option. Especially as Antpool has ZEC and ETH pools.
Acording to nicehash calc this would ROI in 60 days (at 10cents/kWh) and segwit haven't even been activated on LTC yet. Bitmain doesn't do charity and they also don't need money that desperately to sell miners for "free". 99% sure there is some hidden rock there. So i see 3 options.
1. They know/believe LTC/scrypt will drop to hole. So they get money now and mine with miners while they can. This is highly doubtful even if big hashrate increase, as there are other scrypt coins doing very well and this miner would do well even on drop because of low power draw.
2. They wanna do price demping and push out Inno completely out of market as A4 now is more expensive, hashes lower and draws more power. Even if you buy 2 L3+ and one them is dud on arrival - Bitmain style. You still get better deal than A4's. Usually they just offer better efficency for trade-off of realibility. Hashrate/$ is usualy similar or just bit better than oponents (Avalon). After Inno is out they can increase prices and do monopoly stuff like with SHA256 miners.
3. ASICBoost, makes them lose hashrate or elec. effiency. Worse case (not sure if it's possible) it completely bricks miners from LTC network. Techically no biggie as Scrypt market is not so big. But what happens here will also happen with S9/T9/A4. And if it bricks miners then there will be so many tears from China BTC miners there will new China Ocean. Because on SHA256 there is no coins where to move miners, opposite of Scrypt.
1. They know/believe LTC/scrypt will drop to hole. So they get money now and mine with miners while they can. This is highly doubtful even if big hashrate increase, as there are other scrypt coins doing very well and this miner would do well even on drop because of low power draw.
2. They wanna do price demping and push out Inno completely out of market as A4 now is more expensive, hashes lower and draws more power. Even if you buy 2 L3+ and one them is dud on arrival - Bitmain style. You still get better deal than A4's. Usually they just offer better efficency for trade-off of realibility. Hashrate/$ is usualy similar or just bit better than oponents (Avalon). After Inno is out they can increase prices and do monopoly stuff like with SHA256 miners.
3. ASICBoost, makes them lose hashrate or elec. effiency. Worse case (not sure if it's possible) it completely bricks miners from LTC network. Techically no biggie as Scrypt market is not so big. But what happens here will also happen with S9/T9/A4. And if it bricks miners then there will be so many tears from China BTC miners there will new China Ocean. Because on SHA256 there is no coins where to move miners, opposite of Scrypt.
this could be a way to just get the BTC back they paid to have these miners made (overstock) for the seq witness war...now that they don't have a seq witness war they quit
that means only way to get BTC back quick is to sell these miners and assume set for a BTC take off in price ..in that they also are going to stop fighting it on btc network.
thus THEY know they are gonna allow seg witness on both camps and are holding btc and ltc becuase they know it is gonna pump in price both camps....and if truely evil corp type they will
cash out the BTC to make these miners for the seg witness war that never happened and the rest can be used to MAKE these July miners etc
remember may 15th and july 15th the miners we are giving them btc now is PRE-ORDER..this is all 'gravy train' for them
evil frigging genuis's
also they stamp out innsilicon make it sooooooo unattractive no one makes an asic miner to compete for next year or more if ever
they lock up pow mining for both scrypt and sha-256
you really want to go 'full evil' they use these profits on knowing they are gonna allow seg witness and the correspoding pump in both btc and ltc when announced and
use the profits to make an X11 line of miners and control that too....
evil..its what they do and they do it well (bitmain) (tm)
jeez...they oss in the frigging towel on all seg witness.....have inside information that you (bitmain) are gonna toss in the frigging towel on seg witness......(not even illegal inside info ..I mean its a choice right)
then act on that to lock up your whole industry.....get your $$$ back for the hedge on equip for the now no longer seg witness wars in asic land....and use the profits
for the new X11 line to control all pow mining of ANY kind so far in the asic universe
bruahahahahah (evil laugh)
Bitmain the above is CR .if you want to use my 'evil' ideas I can be bought
Acording to nicehash calc this would ROI in 60 days (at 10cents/kWh) and segwit haven't even been activated on LTC yet. Bitmain doesn't do charity and they also don't need money that desperately to sell miners for "free". 99% sure there is some hidden rock there. So i see 3 options.
1. They know/believe LTC/scrypt will drop to hole. So they get money now and mine with miners while they can. This is highly doubtful even if big hashrate increase, as there are other scrypt coins doing very well and this miner would do well even on drop because of low power draw.
2. They wanna do price demping and push out Inno completely out of market as A4 now is more expensive, hashes lower and draws more power. Even if you buy 2 L3+ and one them is dud on arrival - Bitmain style. You still get better deal than A4's. Usually they just offer better efficency for trade-off of realibility. Hashrate/$ is usualy similar or just bit better than oponents (Avalon). After Inno is out they can increase prices and do monopoly stuff like with SHA256 miners.
3. ASICBoost, makes them lose hashrate or elec. effiency. Worse case (not sure if it's possible) it completely bricks miners from LTC network. Techically no biggie as Scrypt market is not so big. But what happens here will also happen with S9/T9/A4. And if it bricks miners then there will be so many tears from China BTC miners there will new China Ocean. Because on SHA256 there is no coins where to move miners, opposite of Scrypt.
1. They know/believe LTC/scrypt will drop to hole. So they get money now and mine with miners while they can. This is highly doubtful even if big hashrate increase, as there are other scrypt coins doing very well and this miner would do well even on drop because of low power draw.
2. They wanna do price demping and push out Inno completely out of market as A4 now is more expensive, hashes lower and draws more power. Even if you buy 2 L3+ and one them is dud on arrival - Bitmain style. You still get better deal than A4's. Usually they just offer better efficency for trade-off of realibility. Hashrate/$ is usualy similar or just bit better than oponents (Avalon). After Inno is out they can increase prices and do monopoly stuff like with SHA256 miners.
3. ASICBoost, makes them lose hashrate or elec. effiency. Worse case (not sure if it's possible) it completely bricks miners from LTC network. Techically no biggie as Scrypt market is not so big. But what happens here will also happen with S9/T9/A4. And if it bricks miners then there will be so many tears from China BTC miners there will new China Ocean. Because on SHA256 there is no coins where to move miners, opposite of Scrypt.
Miner is too cheap for it's hashrate and power. So assuming something fishy going on, like Segwit act. will brick these ASICBoost miners.
Point.....good point.....
I heard thou that if they go USAF bitmain don't care because the asic boost works dandy ...but if they go seg witness...yeah
would be a pretty good 'evil corp' plan on bitmain's part if you found all your bitmain asic's on both BTC and LTC suddenly without the
use of asic boost and now mining 33% lower!
sigh......and I got 1.5k worth...for 3000mh total (thou april 1st order for 1000 was before the controversy on seg wit in my defense
the other 2000mh was just plain freak out to replace titans 3000 mh with bitmains 1370 machine dump (coward I am)
looking like the 3000mh of knc titans will finally get to their numerous attempts to brick themsleves into doorstops finally! (evil they are..)
thru the magic of bitmain's trippling the dificulty and your view that asic boost miners suddenly lose 33% of has ability under segwit...IF
that dark future holds...
FML ..with my luck you are correct..what the hell...its only 11.10c an LTC ...(sob)
Miner is too cheap for it's hashrate and power. So assuming something fishy going on, like Segwit act. will brick these ASICBoost miners.
Man I missed the April & May batches. Given the problems people had with the L3, I find extra difficult to spend $1370 + shipping on the July batch. Very perplexed!
was a bit easier for me ..got some L3's april 1st and L3+'s May 15th batch...have 3000 mh of Titans.....replace at 2/3 savings in electric on L3's 3000 mh combo
of above...and 'hope charlie of LTC' actually pulls off the seg witness and then lightning in weeks as he has stated.....
then if LTC was to be more on par with ETH and DASH etc say around $25 bucks a coin..my bet pays off thru this next big (imho) difficulty hump
if not...er well I have a set of 'more lousy" space heaters next winter with only 1/3 the heat
But again...it was an easy choice for me because Titans have ROI'd and I'm gambling money sure...but less risk to the ego in my manner due to this if it all
goes 'pear shaped' in 20/20 hindsight in say 4 months of new posting of 'angst' here
crypto moon or doom it is always moon or doom
Man I missed the April & May batches. Given the problems people had with the L3, I find extra difficult to spend $1370 + shipping on the July batch. Very perplexed!
I'm starting to think that you buy N+20% (say 5+1) and just run them all until one fails and then cannibalize the +1 for spares to keep the others going. Once they're all out of warranty, I'd expect Bitmain to change their 'whole unit' policy and allow you to just return the failed cards, and at that point you can repair the +1 spare.
If you did you calcs on the basis of cost=6 / mining production=5 (assuming 1 has failed) then I think these might make sense. Ok, I need to work this theory up and test it. BRB.
Its only my HOPE: I do think there were such a gap between first test batch till yesterdays public sale cos of testing and emproving them to have as low returns as possible.
Bitmain miners were always trouble-free - I think maybe 1% of all of them has some issue and its normal.
Man I missed the April & May batches. Given the problems people had with the L3, I find extra difficult to spend $1370 + shipping on the July batch. Very perplexed!
I'm starting to think that you buy N+20% (say 5+1) and just run them all until one fails and then cannibalize the +1 for spares to keep the others going. Once they're all out of warranty, I'd expect Bitmain to change their 'whole unit' policy and allow you to just return the failed cards, and at that point you can repair the +1 spare.
If you did you calcs on the basis of cost=6 / mining production=5 (assuming 1 has failed) then I think these might make sense. Ok, I need to work this theory up and test it. BRB.
i do not buy that with july delivered
these is not fair
these is awful
if you are man with balls will have the batch out at july not now
these is not fair
these is awful
if you are man with balls will have the batch out at july not now
Man I missed the April & May batches. Given the problems people had with the L3, I find extra difficult to spend $1370 + shipping on the July batch. Very perplexed!
I think it's best to hold off untill July to see if the economics makes sense at that time, then order them in July for July delivery.
Once they sell this batch for the 15th July that may be it for July. So you will have to make that decision if it is worth the risk. If they sell out of that batch you won't get another shot at the 15th July delivery.
Decision like that is extra hard now, because I do think its expected to be lower prices till July...
To buy sth now for $1370 when its (maybe) going to cost much lower...? What a risk.
On the other way - the price sould remain and who dont buy now, they should buy...idk...December?
When 15th July appears it ensures myself that my order to 5th May batch was a good investment...
Sadly you are absolutely correct. Bitmain expects you to tie up your funds with them from now until July and the whole bottom could fall out from under scrypt by then. It is a pretty big gamble for sure and makes it a hard decision.
The way Bitmain does this is in batches. So they have orders in the pipeline to get miners built and they show up in batches.
I found this to be one of the most useful discussions about hardware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etyjc1JdmFU
I think it's best to hold off untill July to see if the economics makes sense at that time, then order them in July for July delivery.
Once they sell this batch for the 15th July that may be it for July. So you will have to make that decision if it is worth the risk. If they sell out of that batch you won't get another shot at the 15th July delivery.
Decision like that is extra hard now, because I do think its expected to be lower prices till July...
To buy sth now for $1370 when its (maybe) going to cost much lower...? What a risk.
On the other way - the price sould remain and who dont buy now, they should buy...idk...December?
When 15th July appears it ensures myself that my order to 5th May batch was a good investment...
I think it's best to hold off untill July to see if the economics makes sense at that time, then order them in July for July delivery.
Once they sell this batch for the 15th July that may be it for July. So you will have to make that decision if it is worth the risk. If they sell out of that batch you won't get another shot at the 15th July delivery.
I think it's best to hold off untill July to see if the economics makes sense at that time, then order them in July for July delivery.
I hate to be the bearer of good or bad news, but Bitmain just relisted the L3+ on the site with ship dates now out in July!
What, I thought it was May 5th? Im still trying to put BTC together, and now it's July? What kind of garbage is that, especially since they still want the same price.Forget that crap.
All the people who ordered when it was May 5th should be screaming for a refund... I would not accept a 2 month delay.
Well I think they sold out of the first 2 batches and that was where the April and the May dates came from. If you ordered and have been confirmed paid you will get your miner shipped on the dates they posted. However it appears they are "pre-sale" on the next batch which is July now. So it looks like if you don't jump in and buy it now then you may not get a shot at buying them. At least that is my read on the situation. This is absolute BS, but it is what it is...
My A4's would have generated the 0.1 BTC in 24 hours, that 24-hour delay cost me 2 months. How can I not be upset.
I think they should just continue shipping miners between May 5th and July and not hold onto them. If they simply shipped them in the order they were bought then there would be no issue, but a 2 month delay and no break in price?
Glad for everyone who get's there miners shipped on the 5th, but for the rest of us, it really sucks. I still don't see why they can't ship any between May 5th and July, just really sucks.
Personaly, I think I will forget this miner and go to Baikal instead...
The way Bitmain does this is in batches. So they have orders in the pipeline to get miners built and they show up in batches. So apparently they must have a confirmation on how many they are getting this time in advance. Normally I don't think they even know how many they are going to get in a batch or when they will get them.
This time it looks like they know how many they have coming and are taking pre-orders for the batch. So if you want any of those miners in the July batch you need to order them now before they sell out. This is an odd move on Bitmains part to presale these so far in advance.
Yup, Bitmain knows they can produce X amount of miners by Y date, they take X amount of pre orders for a delivery date. Currently, they are not selling L3+ from available stock.
They sold out of April and May pre-orders and it now looks like they won't have another production run available until July.
IMO this delay in availability could be a good thing for those supporting Segwit.
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