Topic: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon - page 25. (Read 137455 times)

Are you in the May 2018 batch? 

Don't worry, be happy!

Im confident Bitmain will ship my may order on time! 😄

10-4 O_O

dont order anything until this pissing contest ends. we are posting telling you our miners are being stolen from us and used without our permission to do something we didnt want them to do to begin with....so ya...dont buy anything unless your willing to lose it immediately after paying.

So based off the current situation of this . . and the already large LTC diff increase. Would you still recommend ordering L3+ for the July ship date? I would like to order one however I'm worried it will not be very effective by the time I receive it (or maybe receive it at the april ship rates!)

Do we know if they are using AsicBoost on the L3+'s? I know there has been speculation regarding the S9's but I haven't seen anyone do an analysis of the L3+s.
Second point/question is if they really are unleashing more or less double the current network hashpower, isn't it reasonable that they test the units to make sure they don't break shortly after delivery? We know there were some issues with the firmware of the L3s, I'm wondering if they're having heating/cooling trouble with the L3+s?  I think it would be helpful to know if anyone has received the L3+s(maybe someone from china) and if they can comment on whether they've had issues mining/signalling segwit on LTC. The reason I don't necessarily think there would be any trouble re/segwit is because you can use the current L3s to signal segwit now. The L3+ is essentially to l3's taped together so I'm not sure why there would be any super trouble. Re: mining as delayed, doesn't it seem profitable to simply mine right now as units are delayed with other machiens? At least to try and start getting back some ROI? Sure it sucks but cash now is better than cash later?

Last but not least, if they double/triple hashpower, does anyone have an idea as to what mining returns would be assuming ltc/usd price remains around $10usd? I'm not sure how much difficulty would increase if ltcs current hashpower doubled/tripled. Is it naive to think with added hash/security, we might have a price pump too? But yeah, overall it's a crappy situation, but it could still always be worse.... :/

"Dear Customer

Sorry about that but currently we don't have the miners available to ship out now due to the firmware issues after double check with our engineer all these days.
We may only refund to you if you can't accept the compensation .
We'll update to your the exact compensation method after we confirm it today .
And the payment we received is 6.133btc for your order *******BLOCKED BECAUSE ITS NONE OF ANYONES BUSINESS******,we can request to refund it if you want can't accept the compensation with PPS payout after 1.5% commission fee and the electricity fees.

We can't refund you more than the order amount you have paid .
Sorry for the trouble and thanks for your understanding .

Best Regards
Sherry"

here is one of the replies i received. i didnt ask for more than i paid lol. im not that damn greedy. i asked for 10% originally so $730 and change but then i thought....wait they are mining with my machines and the delivery date is probably going to be after the date of the second batch so why the hell did i pay $450 more for the april 15th ship date batch? and thats when my request changed from 10% to i want my $1800 ($450 x 4) refunded and im not paying for power costs to run my miners. i mean i have FREE POWER! i dont get how they think offering .05 per kwh prices to someone that pays 0 for power is legit. if that wasnt bad enough....coinotrons PPLNS fees are 1% ant bitmain wants to charge me 1.5% for PPS....but what if i use PPLNS....so im being forced to pay extra fees and power costs to run miners to block the activation of a feature i want activated and i paid more money to not get my miners on time and im supposed to be alright with this?? over the years i have supported bitmain and promoted them and bashed people that had unrealistic expectations about bitmain and they turn around and hold my shit hostage while their boss goes on a twitter bender calling people morons and telling them to go "fuck your mom if you want to fuck". It seems every ltc miner this company produced had some drama with it. the l1 got refunded yes with a slight bonus but nothing near what would have been mined with them then they come out with the l3+ making me think the l1 wasnt scraped like they claimed it was and they just wanted a loan with little interest attached to it and now this drama bomb! we need new competition to step up to the plate. if this BS keeps going bitmain will be run into the ground and will implode. usually we see this from failing bitcoin startups not from seasoned companies/asic producers. You dont have a child the keys to your 200mph sports car....and this is why you shouldnt hand a multi million dollar company to someone as young at this guy....he clearly has poor self control and feels like his asian baby cock is huge from all the power he thinks he has lol.

I have 4 L3+'s outstanding with them as well, but the May 5th batch. I assume the same song and dance will come my way, in what you are going through.

So let me get this straight.

DO (or did) you have the option of a refund on the firmware lie or did they just offer to mine and you pay electric?

Nice to know the 4 L3+'s I was gonna get to vote FOR seg witness are now merrilly mining along to block seg witness. (Perhaps more if they just took my $$$
and got a couple more at their cost with my free loan...so lets see...maybe 6 mining on my dime to block seg witness with this scam)

Needless to say. NO one would have ordered anything under these guys knowing the stunt they pulled.

Frigging amazing!

I suppose you will come back saying NO refund was offered. Likely, they will simply ship miner late with no compensation on the May 5th batch. I suspect more lies in that is a much bigger
batch then the april batch....thus they probably have no need of the hash...thus the deal you have ...won't exist....now I know where all the former BFL and KNC executives went!

I mean really, if I'm gonna get screwed...at least send flowers/candy..take me out for a little dancing and dinner first. Sheesh.

Support replied to my tickets. The first reply was sayin they were checking stock thats why nothing was shipped the second reply gave me the bs firmware issue lie. I told them i paid $450 extra to have my stuff shipped on the 15th and since they failed to do that i want my $450 x 4 miners refunded back to me. They told me they cant refund me more than what i paid for the miners....the only problem is i paid $7300 not $1800. I also asked them if i have free power why would i pay them electricity for them mining for me when i should be mining with them myself using my own FREE power. Lets see what they say.

Oh and bitmainwarranty decided to login to their account now too lol.

 ETH is probability zero, since it's going PoS "sometime soon" - though "soon" seems to keep getting pushed back.
 ETC market is probably too small to support an ASIC.

 ZEC/ZClassic/whatever that NEW forkoff thing is called perhaps. but I'm still trying to figure out what's keeping it's price out of the double-digit satoshi range like DOGE.

Solo mining if not on a pool involves a little know how.  Much more than can be explained here in one post.  Some searches here or on the internet would be the first place and read everything you can....for now i would stick to a pool which is far much easier and less hassle.

You can solo mine on sites like TBDice, depending on your hash rate you can do well there.  But it is the lottery!!

Perfect, can you tell me what? I have asked a couple of pages before but I guess the person answering, left it because he assumed i meant LTC solo mining and thats not really profitable

I have had no issues mining any scrypt pool at all.  Notice I said pool.  If you want to solo mine you have other things you have to do.

One side question, am i able to mine any other scrypt coin without a big hassle? or are the L3/3+ picky if its not LTC?

Bitmain was ever good company - that time i bought S1 and S2 they gives many coupons because of fast changes on bitcoin network.
If you bought a miner and it was old that day you become it in hands you got coupons to buy new one cheaper - maybe they can do it again this time.

Thats not true...i like many paid for an april 15th shipping date so we did pay $1370 for the miner...we paid $450 more than the may 5th ones. So paying me just the amount they earn during this time is a rippoff because we should get the $450 back right away and my electricity is free so they want me to pay them for power usage during the mining time which if they had been shipped on time i wouldnt have to pay any money for power. They r pissin alot of people off...this will come back to bite them in the ass later on.

It is possible scenario,
Unfortunately we cant do nothing, just speculate.
Everything was suspicious from beginning, why should Chinese monopolist afford us 1370 usd price per unit, if he could sell same units for 3000 easy? They desperately needed lot of BTC for manipulation, so they announced batch1 and batch2, batch 1 was sold 8 min after release,we all know what is going on whith those devices. "Firmware problem" is easiest way to hold our devices as much as their making good profit.

If as most of us suspect..the reason bitmain won't allow seg witness to go thru on any network LTC or BTC is because they lose their asic boost
33% eff advantage on that trick...so us UASF goes thu..well it will never happen...bitmain will burn LTC to toast to protect seg witness in any fashion happening
on the bitcoin network

Bitmain is frigging Negan on "The Walking Dead" they will club LTC as a coin dead to make their point to bitcoin core devs.....

it is frigging likely to work as far as I can tell...they own our ass now

FML



This was all very well planned out months in advance ..you just don't throw your companies reputation out the window..they burned everyone ...big reseller like eastshore
mining etc..all taken for a ride

not a damn thing we can do about it if they consolidate 40-45% of the network and/or now have 70% of scrypt pow miners and the ONLY ones making replacements so
hell that percentage will go up to 90% ....they can NEVER allow to protect asic boost and their mining monopoly...seg witness even if it did come to pass via UASF...they
will burn LTC to the ground first as an example to bitcoin core devs to not fuck with bitmain

and they are doing this with my $$$ for my 4 L3+'s I PAID for to stop seg witness..by keeping the $$$ and probably replacing them with 8 L3+'s as a use of my money
at their cost per unit..and not give a refund as an option...

then big surprise...2 months from now difficulty has ONLY trippled and 'suddenly' the firmware is 'fixed' and they ship my now 1/2 way at best doorstop asic to me!

again beyond screwed...we just got nuked and are 'glowing' in the dark.....we just don't know we are the walking 'asic' dead yet (knc titans are so radioactive now)

So my end of life on mining more than at a hobby level....it will be the equiv of wandering the forums muttering  'I can't believe they Nuked the scrypt pow world'

hey evil works I guess

Has ne one else noticed bitmains customer support has stopped responding completely?? Whats even more weird is the user bitmainwarranty on bitcoin talk last logged in on april 15th and bitmains email ticketing system stopped replying to me at around the same time. That is sketchy as hell. Maybe im lookin too much into it but 2 separate groups have stopped showing any activity at the same time about and all while this huge clusterfuck that the bitmain owner dropped on customers happens.

Also idk about u guys but i have yet to receive the notice that was posted on reddit. I couldnt even find the original post that the panda guy quoted and screen shotted.