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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 117. (Read 710164 times)

legendary
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December 03, 2014, 11:46:50 AM
I think someone needs to learn the difference between 4 Rails and 4 Connectors. Before they melt down a shiny new miner and blame it on the manufacturer.

This is why these manufactures need to be providing power supplies. I've never gotten the point of not providing one. Other than to make it difficult to figure out what the hell you're doing.

Because most miners already have a fleet of PSUs and don't want new ones with every miner?
Because most mining rigs ship from China, and miners don't want to pay to ship an extra several pounds across the planet?
Because a manufacturer would sell the rig+PSU at a profit, whereas most of us find extreme deals on PSUs and then buy a case of them at 50-75% off from retail?

If you really need a PSU and a completely set up rig, there are resellers that do that. Resellers are better in that situation because they usually provide local (i.e. English) tech support, don't require you to install QQ and speak Chinese, and are awake around the same times you are if you do need assistance.

So what I'm saying, is no one wants manufacturers to bundle PSUs with their rigs as a default. And those who do, don't actually want to be buying from manufacturers, they want to be buying from local resellers.


And if you get a good deal on a high quality Gold, Platinum, or Titanium PSU, they will last for years.  I have some Corsair RM850 golds on their 3rd miner.  I really don't want a new $100 - $250 PSU for each miner.

*EDIT*   Most, if not all, miners use the PCI/E power connector.  It is a 6 pin connector with 3 pins +12volts and 3 pins ground. 
full member
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December 03, 2014, 10:56:57 AM
I think someone needs to learn the difference between 4 Rails and 4 Connectors. Before they melt down a shiny new miner and blame it on the manufacturer.

This is why these manufactures need to be providing power supplies. I've never gotten the point of not providing one. Other than to make it difficult to figure out what the hell you're doing.

Because most miners already have a fleet of PSUs and don't want new ones with every miner?
Because most mining rigs ship from China, and miners don't want to pay to ship an extra several pounds across the planet?
Because a manufacturer would sell the rig+PSU at a profit, whereas most of us find extreme deals on PSUs and then buy a case of them at 50-75% off from retail?

If you really need a PSU and a completely set up rig, there are resellers that do that. Resellers are better in that situation because they usually provide local (i.e. English) tech support, don't require you to install QQ and speak Chinese, and are awake around the same times you are if you do need assistance.

So what I'm saying, is no one wants manufacturers to bundle PSUs with their rigs as a default. And those who do, don't actually want to be buying from manufacturers, they want to be buying from local resellers.
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Bored with you morons.
December 03, 2014, 10:17:12 AM
I think someone needs to learn the difference between 4 Rails and 4 Connectors. Before they melt down a shiny new miner and blame it on the manufacturer.

This is why these manufactures need to be providing power supplies. I've never gotten the point of not providing one. Other than to make it difficult to figure out what the hell you're doing.

Because standard ATX PSU's can be used with next gen miners instead of having to pay for a new PSU every time you upgrade.

Completely missed what I meant, but okay.
hero member
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December 03, 2014, 10:07:42 AM
I think someone needs to learn the difference between 4 Rails and 4 Connectors. Before they melt down a shiny new miner and blame it on the manufacturer.

This is why these manufactures need to be providing power supplies. I've never gotten the point of not providing one. Other than to make it difficult to figure out what the hell you're doing.

Because standard ATX PSU's can be used with next gen miners instead of having to pay for a new PSU every time you upgrade.
member
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Bored with you morons.
December 03, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
I think someone needs to learn the difference between 4 Rails and 4 Connectors. Before they melt down a shiny new miner and blame it on the manufacturer.

This is why these manufactures need to be providing power supplies. I've never gotten the point of not providing one. Other than to make it difficult to figure out what the hell you're doing.
sr. member
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December 03, 2014, 08:26:59 AM
I think someone needs to learn the difference between 4 Rails and 4 Connectors. Before they melt down a shiny new miner and blame it on the manufacturer.

i wanted to check how many rails my PSU had, but when i peered in, i noticed there was a train coming and had to jump out of the way.
legendary
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December 03, 2014, 08:22:17 AM
I think someone needs to learn the difference between 4 Rails and 4 Connectors. Before they melt down a shiny new miner and blame it on the manufacturer.
legendary
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December 03, 2014, 08:15:54 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?

You can use two power supplies as long as each board is connected to only one PSU. I.e. one PSU for the left side, another PSU for the right side is ok.

Better yet, get a 600W+ PSU with 4 PCI-E connectors and you'll have less clutter.


This any good?
APEVIA ATX-AP800W 800W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148048

im gonna say no, it doesnt even have a bronze rating?


Thought it did, but double checking looks like no.

Seems the CORSAIR CX750M is the cheapest option I can find. Nothing in the 600 or 650 watt range seems to have 4 rails.

Why do you need 4 rails? I've been using Corsair RM850 that have a single 71A 12V rail to run 2 OC S3+ for months without a problem. I''ve even pushed them to 875W without a problem. Currently running 5 S3s and 8 S1s (undervoltaged to reduce hashrate but increase efficiency) on 4 Corsair RM850.

As long as it is a high quality power supply one high capacity rail is superior to two or four lower capacity rails.
sr. member
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Found Lost beach - quiet now
December 03, 2014, 08:13:29 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?

You can use two power supplies as long as each board is connected to only one PSU. I.e. one PSU for the left side, another PSU for the right side is ok.

Better yet, get a 600W+ PSU with 4 PCI-E connectors and you'll have less clutter.


This any good?
APEVIA ATX-AP800W 800W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148048

im gonna say no, it doesnt even have a bronze rating?


Thought it did, but double checking looks like no.

Seems the CORSAIR CX750M is the cheapest option I can find. Nothing in the 600 or 650 watt range seems to have 4 rails.

Why do you need 4 rails? I've been using Corsair RM850 that have a single 71A 12V rail to run 2 OC S3+ for months without a problem. I''ve even pushed them to 875W without a problem. Currently running 5 S3s and 8 S1s (undervoltaged to reduce hashrate but increase efficiency) on 4 Corsair RM850.
member
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Bored with you morons.
December 03, 2014, 05:36:43 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?

You can use two power supplies as long as each board is connected to only one PSU. I.e. one PSU for the left side, another PSU for the right side is ok.

Better yet, get a 600W+ PSU with 4 PCI-E connectors and you'll have less clutter.


This any good?
APEVIA ATX-AP800W 800W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148048

im gonna say no, it doesnt even have a bronze rating?


Thought it did, but double checking looks like no.

Seems the CORSAIR CX750M is the cheapest option I can find. Nothing in the 600 or 650 watt range seems to have 4 rails.
legendary
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December 03, 2014, 05:32:54 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?

You can use two power supplies as long as each board is connected to only one PSU. I.e. one PSU for the left side, another PSU for the right side is ok.

Better yet, get a 600W+ PSU with 4 PCI-E connectors and you'll have less clutter.


This any good?
APEVIA ATX-AP800W 800W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148048

im gonna say no, it doesnt even have a bronze rating?
legendary
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December 03, 2014, 05:31:12 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?

i run 2 S3s off a seasonic 850W gold psu..
this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102

it hasnt let me down yet, been going for months.
member
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Bored with you morons.
December 03, 2014, 04:33:32 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?

You can use two power supplies as long as each board is connected to only one PSU. I.e. one PSU for the left side, another PSU for the right side is ok.

Better yet, get a 600W+ PSU with 4 PCI-E connectors and you'll have less clutter.


This any good?
APEVIA ATX-AP800W 800W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148048
newbie
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December 03, 2014, 04:16:43 AM
Received my 4 s3's 3 fire up fine, however 1 is displaying the following.

Ive swapped PSU's and cables
Opened up and swapped chain cables around and still only chain 1 fires up.

Anyone seen this problem and any advice?

Cheers

http://s2.postimg.org/mu8hx3h2x/image.jpg
legendary
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https://bpip.org
December 03, 2014, 03:00:46 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?

You can use two power supplies as long as each board is connected to only one PSU. I.e. one PSU for the left side, another PSU for the right side is ok.

Better yet, get a 600W+ PSU with 4 PCI-E connectors and you'll have less clutter.
member
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Bored with you morons.
December 03, 2014, 02:30:48 AM
This thread is ridiculously long, so this has probably been answered but I'm not sifting through that many pages. What is the proper PSU wiring for overclocking? Is it possible to power with two PSUs? One at 500 Watts and a second at say 150+ Watts?
ZiG
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December 02, 2014, 09:57:17 PM
WOW ! Difficulty actually just went down to 40,007,470,271

was 40,300,030,327.89

40,007,470,271

VERY NICE ! 293million down.




Yeap...for the first time in almost 2 years... Grin

Happy mining,

ZiG
member
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December 02, 2014, 09:33:52 PM
WOW ! Difficulty actually just went down to 40,007,470,271

was 40,300,030,327.89

40,007,470,271

VERY NICE ! 293million down.


newbie
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December 02, 2014, 05:18:28 PM
In Jan next year my electric costs go down 10% and with bitcoin value creeping upwards it looks as if S1's will again start to earn their keep. At the moment they are just breaking even so effectively l get free heating. I'm happy. I only ever did mining for something interesting to get into.. and if l earn from it that's great. No other interest l can think of gives me a return although l stand to be corrected on that!
sr. member
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Found Lost beach - quiet now
December 02, 2014, 10:52:11 AM
Like many other mining enthusiasts no doubt, I have migrated from S1's to S3's and now have S1's gathering dust. So what to do with them? They are undervolted and lowered frequency using 150watts at 128Gh. Running costs are £0.50p per day each. They run almost silent. l intend using one per bedroom to warm the room up and maybe point them at a solo pool..  you never know your luck or l could stay with my usual pool and then the running costs drop to £0.10p per day.

As an aside I have 6 S3's all providing heating. It's winter here in England with outside temperatures ranging from 0 to 10C. One S3 is in the shed to keep the place from freezing, 3 in the lounge hidden in a corner..  the temperature there now never drops below 22C..  and 2 in my study which keeps it comfortably warm. Fan noise is not a problem having replaced all fans with much quieter ones.

I too have undervoltaged S1s (8 of them) and S3s (5). They're all in my basement and help heat the whole house. We live in Ohio and have a quad-level home. Current outside temperature about 36 F, keeps basement at about 78 F; 2nd level at 72 F; third level about 69 F; and 4th level at about 65 F. The bedroom we sleep in is upstairs and prefer the cool temp so works out great. Making about 1.5 BTC a month. I check the electric bill each month and compare to the BTC made during same period and will continue running as long as still making money. Furnace hardly runs at all so also saving on natural gas bill. Noise not a problem because of location.
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