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Is anyone else putting their S3's on LeaseRig?  I have a couple on there and everything works great using the bitmain original cgminer.  However, if I replace that with the new cgminer Ckolivas posted I get very erratic behavior when someone rents the miner.  Things like low or 0 hashrate, it reboots, or otherwise just stops mining.  If I swap out Ckolivas' new build of cgminer with the Bitmain original it all runs fine again.  

Am I missing something?  Setting something wrong?  

Same here.  All of mine run better with the Bitmain version (3.12.0).  The 4.6.1 (and 4.6.0) starts off faster, but after letting it run 24 hours, the miner side average was a little lower than the Bitmain version.  And the pool-side average with 4.6.x was also lower.   I'm mining with ghash.io.

EDIT.  I did not mean to say much lower.  I meant also lower.  Just saying I checked both cgminer reported average and pool-side reported average.  The actual difference was not much at all.  But I didn't care for the sporadic behavior of the 4.6 version.  It would report crazy high numbers, like over 600 Gh/s, then very low numbers.

lol... They would not start mining if cgminer was not executable.
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Is anyone else putting their S3's on LeaseRig?  I have a couple on there and everything works great using the bitmain original cgminer.  However, if I replace that with the new cgminer Ckolivas posted I get very erratic behavior when someone rents the miner.  Things like low or 0 hashrate, it reboots, or otherwise just stops mining.  If I swap out Ckolivas' new build of cgminer with the Bitmain original it all runs fine again.  

Am I missing something?  Setting something wrong?  

chmod +x cgminer

Did you make it executable?

To add to the above, low hashrate in the UI sometimes happens when you restart cgminer rather than reboot. After updating to the new cgminer and making it executable, reboot the S3 via SSH not the UI.
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gotta let a coin be a coin
Is anyone else putting their S3's on LeaseRig?  I have a couple on there and everything works great using the bitmain original cgminer.  However, if I replace that with the new cgminer Ckolivas posted I get very erratic behavior when someone rents the miner.  Things like low or 0 hashrate, it reboots, or otherwise just stops mining.  If I swap out Ckolivas' new build of cgminer with the Bitmain original it all runs fine again. 

Am I missing something?  Setting something wrong? 

chmod +x cgminer

Did you make it executable?
sr. member
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Is anyone else putting their S3's on LeaseRig?  I have a couple on there and everything works great using the bitmain original cgminer.  However, if I replace that with the new cgminer Ckolivas posted I get very erratic behavior when someone rents the miner.  Things like low or 0 hashrate, it reboots, or otherwise just stops mining.  If I swap out Ckolivas' new build of cgminer with the Bitmain original it all runs fine again.  

Am I missing something?  Setting something wrong?  
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good catch, but the latter guy does not have any performance guarantees and obviously wants to deal in BTC, which is outside of ebay.
The first one is a good deal, especially since he says-make an offer. I don't know why he is so desperate to get rid of them at the low considering everything.
Many other people ask for ~300 plus minus a few ($275-339).

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
here 255 or best offer ships now


http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIMTMAIN-ANTMINER-S3-440gh-s-BATCH-9-IN-Hand-Ships-Now-/131318447883?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item1e93307f0b

bitmaintech is crazy to sell at the current price  the deal above is far better.

i have never seen ebay crush a seller in this manner until today


wait a minute here is lower


http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITMAIN-AntMiner-S3-ASIC-Bitcoin-BTC-Miner-B5-7-IN-HAND-Ships-in-24-hrs-from-NY-/181534774039?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item2a4450d317
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Just passing on a warning to pay very close attention to the shipping and handling terms on eBay purchases.  One guy seems to be selling at a bargain price, but you won't get the miner for almost a month after you buy it.  He states; "Will ship within 10 business days of receiving cleared payment. The seller has specified an extended handling time for this item."  The sale ends today and the estimated delivery date is between Oct 28 and Nov 10.  I saw some other fishy items with Miner sales, but I don't recall the specifics off the top of my head.  Just be very careful and pay attention to every detail.

legendary
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HA HA HA

just saw it now they ask shipping for two miners for EU 0.419 BTC

Yes am going to proceed with my order now bitmain  just wait for me

Sorry to see this company going down....



I can buy s-3 miners on ebay for less then I can buy them from bitmaintech.

 Last week I paid 240 usd for 1 s-3 miner  

at  358  a coin  2 miners to the usa New Jersey are 1.539  so 1.539 x 358 = 550.96 usd for 2 that comes to 275.48 usd a miner.   I paid 240 and got about 11 usd back in discount so

229 from ebay with a 45 day ebay warranty or 275 from bitmaintech and no recourse since you pay in btc.  makes no sense at all.

well, point taken, but it was last week. This week, after B10 announcement, some price recovery and flat difficulty, you would have to pay at least $275, maybe $299 on ebay, almost nobody will sell for $240. In fact, only newbs would sell used S-3 for next 7-9 days because difficulty stayed flat, so it pays to delay.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
HA HA HA

just saw it now they ask shipping for two miners for EU 0.419 BTC

Yes am going to proceed with my order now bitmain  just wait for me

Sorry to see this company going down....



I can buy s-3 miners on ebay for less then I can buy them from bitmaintech.

 Last week I paid 240 usd for 1 s-3 miner  

at  358  a coin  2 miners to the usa New Jersey are 1.539  so 1.539 x 358 = 550.96 usd for 2 that comes to 275.48 usd a miner.   I paid 240 and got about 11 usd back in discount so

229 from ebay with a 45 day ebay warranty or 275 from bitmaintech and no recourse since you pay in btc.  makes no sense at all.
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After what I learnt from the S4 investigation, I checked the S3s, and they have a very diminished version of the problem with pools that start at low diffs. Here's an updated binary for the S3s.

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s3/4.6.1-141009/cgminer

This might make startup/pool switching a bit smoother, especially if your pools start at diff 1 and take a while to increase their vardiff.

EDIT: Hashrates even seem a little faster after a few minutes...

EDIT2: No it's not any faster after longer running, it's the same overall performance. Only the startup won't overload the S3 controller on low diff starting pools.

well, seems it did some magic to one of my S3s, before it was stable at 478 (250 MHz) now, its at 501 after almost 1 hour running...

Lucky.  Mine actually went the opposite direction.  My 3 S3+ Antminers were steady at 478-500GH/s and after the update consistently below or just under 450GH/s

4.6.1 doesnt speed mining up it just takes the load off the CPU, people reporting it sped up mining were just being giddy and not lettings smoothout.  I noticed when changing up to 250 on a few miners, I had to let the chips cool down first to below 35C before trying to 250 again or they would tank below 480. no clue why but at least 2 did it so it isnt an anomaly
 well one issue may be poor heatsink compound, the ones I upgraded dont have this issue and mine at 250 smoothly
ZiG
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HA HA HA

just saw it now they ask shipping for two miners for EU 0.419 BTC

Yes am going to proceed with my order now bitmain  just wait for me

Sorry to see this company going down....



...BIG time...unfortunately...  Grin

ZiG
legendary
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HA HA HA

just saw it now they ask shipping for two miners for EU 0.419 BTC

Yes am going to proceed with my order now bitmain  just wait for me

Sorry to see this company going down....

sr. member
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After what I learnt from the S4 investigation, I checked the S3s, and they have a very diminished version of the problem with pools that start at low diffs. Here's an updated binary for the S3s.

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s3/4.6.1-141009/cgminer

This might make startup/pool switching a bit smoother, especially if your pools start at diff 1 and take a while to increase their vardiff.

EDIT: Hashrates even seem a little faster after a few minutes...

EDIT2: No it's not any faster after longer running, it's the same overall performance. Only the startup won't overload the S3 controller on low diff starting pools.

well, seems it did some magic to one of my S3s, before it was stable at 478 (250 MHz) now, its at 501 after almost 1 hour running...

Lucky.  Mine actually went the opposite direction.  My 3 S3+ Antminers were steady at 478-500GH/s and after the update consistently below or just under 450GH/s
hero member
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gotta let a coin be a coin
how do the installation???
478 or 250

Huh?
for 500 gh???

On web UI go to Miner Configuration > Advanced Settings

Select 250M and click apply
newbie
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On your Excel spreadsheet you show Rockminer R3 Box (4) having a total hash rate of 2.7 THs (or 675 GHs per unit), but Rockminer's site shows their hash rate to be 450 - 480 GHs each.  Multiply this by 4 and you get 1,800 -  1920 GHs, or 1.8 - 1.92 THs.  Do these actually Overclock up to 2.7 THs?  That would be a 40% hashing power increase over stock (480 GHs).
Secondly, you show the Rockminers as being overclocked at the astounding rate of 2.7 THs, yet the other miners are shown stock.  This isn't Apples to Apples.
Your work looks great, I'm just not sure it's completely accurate or unbiased.

If you click to the order page where the specs are shown, they advertise the 2700 GHs. I only bumped values if the manufacturer made a claim based upon buyers experience, or if I saw that users had reported that this was more typical. For instance, my S3+ machines work at 503 GHs, so that is how I listed it. Keep in mind this is for me. Utilize it if you desire and change it to suit your needs.

Again, no need to complain about the accuracy. I am not selling anything. I am sharing it. Use it or don't. Show me a better tool you developed or found and maybe I will use that instead.



Dan
legendary
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how do the installation???
478 or 250

Huh?
for 500 gh???
legendary
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After what I learnt from the S4 investigation, I checked the S3s, and they have a very diminished version of the problem with pools that start at low diffs. Here's an updated binary for the S3s.

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s3/4.6.1-141009/cgminer

This might make startup/pool switching a bit smoother, especially if your pools start at diff 1 and take a while to increase their vardiff.

EDIT: Hashrates even seem a little faster after a few minutes...

EDIT2: No it's not any faster after longer running, it's the same overall performance. Only the startup won't overload the S3 controller on low diff starting pools.

well, seems it did some magic to one of my S3s, before it was stable at 478 (250 MHz) now, its at 501 after almost 1 hour running...
sr. member
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With BTC price value improving ove the past day, it might just be better to buy BTC and hold then sell at a high
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This always happens when a company opens cloud mining. Their prices need to raise to make the cloud mining look like a better deal. Still, with the current price of BTC, the S3+ is cheaper if you consider the cost in fiat.

There are much better deals currently available: Rockminer and ASICMiner Prisma are two.

I use the following spreadsheet to compare apples to apples. I hesitate to share because well, people will freak out because it is not completely accurate in its forecast, but it does use an industry scaling factor, which will probably be overrun unless BTC goes up. I will probably adjust the scaling factor for myself.

You need to understand excel to use it, but essentially, when I go in, I update the difficulty, day and price, unless your electricity rate matches mine, you'd also want to update electricity $/kwh. I then click on the name of each miner, and it takes me to their website where I double check the price. If the principle cost is fiat, I list that bolded, if BTC, I list that bolded. I also use a calculation for the s&h if in BTC. The last three columns are where I compare apples to apples. The notes explain much of what I was thinking when I programmed it the way I did. You'd want to update costs for PSU and other. I have my preferred units that are essentially priced here.

http://www.hundredpalms.com/profitability_comparison.xlsx

Dan

On your Excel spreadsheet you show Rockminer R3 Box (4) having a total hash rate of 2.7 THs (or 675 GHs per unit), but Rockminer's site shows their hash rate to be 450 - 480 GHs each.  Multiply this by 4 and you get 1,800 -  1920 GHs, or 1.8 - 1.92 THs.  Do these actually Overclock up to 2.7 THs?  That would be a 40% hashing power increase over stock (480 GHs).
Secondly, you show the Rockminers as being overclocked at the astounding rate of 2.7 THs, yet the other miners are shown stock.  This isn't Apples to Apples.
Your work looks great, I'm just not sure it's completely accurate or unbiased.
sr. member
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After what I learnt from the S4 investigation, I checked the S3s, and they have a very diminished version of the problem with pools that start at low diffs. Here's an updated binary for the S3s.

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s3/4.6.1-141009/cgminer

This might make startup/pool switching a bit smoother, especially if your pools start at diff 1 and take a while to increase their vardiff.

EDIT: Hashrates even seem a little faster after a few minutes...

EDIT2: No it's not any faster after longer running, it's the same overall performance. Only the startup won't overload the S3 controller on low diff starting pools.

Any chance you will build 4.6.x for the S2?
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