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Right now the SP31 (0.55 W/GH) seems be the best you cat get in the foreseeable future, followed by Bitmaintech hardware (S3+ 0.78 W/GH, S3+ OC 0.80 W/GH).
.55w/gh at what hash rate?

The SP31 does 5.5TH/s at 3000W = 0.545454 W/GH.
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Right now the SP31 (0.55 W/GH) seems be the best you cat get in the foreseeable future, followed by Bitmaintech hardware (S3+ 0.78 W/GH, S3+ OC 0.80 W/GH).

.55w/gh at what hash rate?
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20 Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price? As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

May look interesting on first sight, but their units have a worse W/GH ratio and not having free energy that's pretty much all that matters. Right now the SP31 (0.55 W/GH) seems be the best you cat get in the foreseeable future, followed by Bitmaintech hardware (S3+ 0.78 W/GH, S3+ OC 0.80 W/GH).

What do you think about the Hashra 1TH version for 445.00 ?

It's still 0.9W per GH/s. Also don't forget the $125 shipping cost (yes, that's Hashra's favorite trick).


Yeah, shipping is a factor as well ( good point ) the efficiency is not the best on the market but the price is right.

Everything is situational.  Someone in Washington paying .03/kwh is probably not as concerned with a slight power consumption increase as someone paying .30/kwh.
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20 Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price? As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

May look interesting on first sight, but their units have a worse W/GH ratio and not having free energy that's pretty much all that matters. Right now the SP31 (0.55 W/GH) seems be the best you cat get in the foreseeable future, followed by Bitmaintech hardware (S3+ 0.78 W/GH, S3+ OC 0.80 W/GH).

What do you think about the Hashra 1TH version for 445.00 ?

It's still 0.9W per GH/s. Also don't forget the $125 shipping cost (yes, that's Hashra's favorite trick).
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20 Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price? As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

May look interesting on first sight, but their units have a worse W/GH ratio and not having free energy that's pretty much all that matters. Right now the SP31 (0.55 W/GH) seems be the best you cat get in the foreseeable future, followed by Bitmaintech hardware (S3+ 0.78 W/GH, S3+ OC 0.80 W/GH).

What do you think about the Hashra 1TH version for 445.00 ?
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20 Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price? As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

May look interesting on first sight, but their units have a worse W/GH ratio and not having free energy that's pretty much all that matters. Right now the SP31 (0.55 W/GH) seems be the best you cat get in the foreseeable future, followed by Bitmaintech hardware (S3+ 0.78 W/GH, S3+ OC 0.80 W/GH).
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If you notice there are spikes about half way through every round then it settles at a certain point. I wonder why this is? Anyways Bitmain will have to come down in price since the release date is 2+ diff increases away.

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So all of a sudden the Net hash has started to drop pretty fast.  I really hope it wasn't bitmain using the s3's that long.  I understand testing them, but that would have gone beyond testing imo. 

I bet why the net hash is dropping is something else, just wonder what it is. 

2 weeks of testing would have been a huge percent of an s3's roi.

hoping it'll stay at 16M ghs for this week
so the next diff wont scare the miners  Cheesy
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how much are the s3's?

Currently .58 btc direct from bitmain with free shipping on or before Sept 20th.  from China.
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how much are the s3's?
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So all of a sudden the Net hash has started to drop pretty fast.  I really hope it wasn't bitmain using the s3's that long.  I understand testing them, but that would have gone beyond testing imo. 

I bet why the net hash is dropping is something else, just wonder what it is. 

2 weeks of testing would have been a huge percent of an s3's roi.
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20

Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price?

As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

Not sure this is that much more competitive price wise. First, The 2 TH Hashra would be comparable to roughly 4 AntMiner S3+ Units.

4x S3 x 0.58 BTC = 2.32 BTC = $1160

Considering you can run 3 S3 Antminers off 1 1300w PSU the total price with shipping is about: $1420 TOTAL

The Hashra Unit at 2TH will cost $1275 (it requires (2) 1200w PSUs)

So the savings is roughly $145

However, redundancy is a factor. If the 2TH Hashra goes down, you lose all your Hash. 

Second, Bitmain, at least with my orders have always shipped on time.

Hashra states "should ship" by 9/20. 

Bitmain states "will ship by 9/20 OR EARLIER"

My vote goes with the Antminer.

Strato


Btw just saw they have a 1TH version for 445.  That compares more directly to the s3+  Like I said just happy competition looks to be starting just when butmain decided to pick up some bad habits.  Nudge them back to how they were before hopefully.
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20

Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price?

As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

Not sure this is that much more competitive price wise. First, The 2 TH Hashra would be comparable to roughly 4 AntMiner S3+ Units.

4x S3 x 0.58 BTC = 2.32 BTC = $1160

Considering you can run 3 S3 Antminers off 1 1300w PSU the total price with shipping is about: $1420 TOTAL

The Hashra Unit at 2TH will cost $1275 (it requires (2) 1200w PSUs)

So the savings is roughly $145

However, redundancy is a factor. If the 2TH Hashra goes down, you lose all your Hash.  

Second, Bitmain, at least with my orders have always shipped on time.

Hashra states "should ship" by 9/20.  

Bitmain states "will ship by 9/20 OR EARLIER"

My vote goes with the Antminer.

Strato

You have to have an external controller for the Hashra... a Pi or a PC. I much prefer the integrated controller on the antminer.
Dont forget HW error. On all my experiences antminer has the best HW error so far...
And I dont trust HASRA until theres product review on my local market Cheesy
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8507354

In addition of the above linked stuff, the one miner on 243.75 that's still doing beastly ~490 has insane RMP fan speeds in excess of 12/13k. I don't know if this is a readout fluke but (have seen others reports these an speeds) that machine does have lower temps. The other two "slow" machines that are mid to low 470Gh/s with slightly higher temps than the "beast". Is there anything I can do remotely to tell their fans to run a bit faster in the 12k + RPM range to see if that will bring temps down and speeds up ?

If not I will have to talk to my host about alternative cooling methods like say removing the cases which should drop temps (two to three points) to the range I'm hoping for / like seen on the one machine doing ~490 with high RPM's.

Still wondering if anyone here has tried alternative cooling methods like just removing cases and how that worked for you.

Ty.
Still looking for an answer on the bit in red if anyone knows whether or not it's possible, Ty.

removing the cases will NOT drop the temp because you are getting rid of the wind tunnel effect.
Dropping cases AND putting fans on both sides providing airflow at a right angle to the hashing board might work on a miner without case, but did not work on miners with cases on (I tried that thinking that i will evacuate extra heat on the case). let us know if you will try "naked" S3 with a couple of fans on the side.
Well the whole caseless thing was an idea to entertain but if I could ramp up the fans RPM's intentionally then it would still achieve a slightly desired effect. So can the fans be remotely controlled from SSH to run faster like they would if temps went up some ? Or at least I think they speed up when temps rise.

My one machine who has fans in excess of 10k is still doing ~490, it's the others who have wavering speeds if you check out the link from the reply you quoted / replied to.
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All good valid points in response to my Hashra post above.  

I am just happy we are starting to get something comparable.  I also would not buy until I saw how it worked out, especially because I think Hashra had problems in the past?


Anyways, again just happy finally bitmain is starting to get competition.  Hopefully it will nudge them back to the level of service and value they were giving us a few months back.

Also gaw CEO made a pretty bold statement in regards to equipment sellers/cloud mining providers and how they should be sharing profits with their customers to give them a chance at least to roi.

It has been long enough all of us who buy this equipment get a chance to get some of the profits they are enjoying.
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8507354

In addition of the above linked stuff, the one miner on 243.75 that's still doing beastly ~490 has insane RMP fan speeds in excess of 12/13k. I don't know if this is a readout fluke but (have seen others reports these an speeds) that machine does have lower temps. The other two "slow" machines that are mid to low 470Gh/s with slightly higher temps than the "beast". Is there anything I can do remotely to tell their fans to run a bit faster in the 12k + RPM range to see if that will bring temps down and speeds up ?

If not I will have to talk to my host about alternative cooling methods like say removing the cases which should drop temps (two to three points) to the range I'm hoping for / like seen on the one machine doing ~490 with high RPM's.

Still wondering if anyone here has tried alternative cooling methods like just removing cases and how that worked for you.

Ty.
Still looking for an answer on the bit in red if anyone knows whether or not it's possible, Ty.

removing the cases will NOT drop the temp because you are getting rid of the wind tunnel effect.
Dropping cases AND putting fans on both sides providing airflow at a right angle to the hashing board might work on a miner without case, but did not work on miners with cases on (I tried that thinking that i will evacuate extra heat on the case). let us know if you will try "naked" S3 with a couple of fans on the side.
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8507354

In addition of the above linked stuff, the one miner on 243.75 that's still doing beastly ~490 has insane RMP fan speeds in excess of 12/13k. I don't know if this is a readout fluke but (have seen others reports these an speeds) that machine does have lower temps. The other two "slow" machines that are mid to low 470Gh/s with slightly higher temps than the "beast". Is there anything I can do remotely to tell their fans to run a bit faster in the 12k + RPM range to see if that will bring temps down and speeds up ?

If not I will have to talk to my host about alternative cooling methods like say removing the cases which should drop temps (two to three points) to the range I'm hoping for / like seen on the one machine doing ~490 with high RPM's.

Still wondering if anyone here has tried alternative cooling methods like just removing cases and how that worked for you.

Ty.
Still looking for an answer on the bit in red if anyone knows whether or not it's possible, Ty.
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20

Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price?

As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

Not sure this is that much more competitive price wise. First, The 2 TH Hashra would be comparable to roughly 4 AntMiner S3+ Units.

4x S3 x 0.58 BTC = 2.32 BTC = $1160

Considering you can run 3 S3 Antminers off 1 1300w PSU the total price with shipping is about: $1420 TOTAL

The Hashra Unit at 2TH will cost $1275 (it requires (2) 1200w PSUs)

So the savings is roughly $145

However, redundancy is a factor. If the 2TH Hashra goes down, you lose all your Hash.  

Second, Bitmain, at least with my orders have always shipped on time.

Hashra states "should ship" by 9/20.  

Bitmain states "will ship by 9/20 OR EARLIER"

My vote goes with the Antminer.

Strato

You have to have an external controller for the Hashra... a Pi or a PC. I much prefer the integrated controller on the antminer.

so that hashra does not have both power supply AND controller?
Besides, a new unknown entity showing a bunch of CAD pictures. No data on quality...i'll wait to see how it develops.

Funny name, though...reminds me of Mothra...so Bitmain/Spond/KnC response would be Hashzilla, I guess.
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Could someone please provide the code to be entered into the scheduled tasks of the gui, that would restart my miner every 6 hours?
Like the other guy said it was on page 250 but here it is for anyone else who might want a quick easy glance.

So some of my miners require a restart about every 12-17 hours - they occasionally show up with the dreaded "x" but then upon a restart they are all good to go,

I'm really tired of having to restart them with the gui,  is there anyone out there that can help me with an automated reboot option in the

"Scheduled Tasks
      This is the system crontab in which scheduled tasks can be defined."

 that i can save and autorestart the miners - once or twice a day lets say

12midnight and 12 midday?

Regards

loki.

I just added this to scheduled tasks under existing line
0  8  *   *   *     /sbin/reboot
0  20  *   *   *     /sbin/reboot

Others suggest this
0 8,20 * * * /etc/init.d/cgminer restart

Restart being safer, but reboot is quicker. I really see the drop off in my hashing graph with restart, but not with reboot.
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So new Hashra 2 TH for 875.00 same ship date as s3's.Sept 20

Competion going to finally force bitmain to give a more reasonable price?

As it stand the current s3 price would have been ok if they were in stock and shipping last week.

Not sure this is that much more competitive price wise. First, The 2 TH Hashra would be comparable to roughly 4 AntMiner S3+ Units.

4x S3 x 0.58 BTC = 2.32 BTC = $1160

Considering you can run 3 S3 Antminers off 1 1300w PSU the total price with shipping is about: $1420 TOTAL

The Hashra Unit at 2TH will cost $1275 (it requires (2) 1200w PSUs)

So the savings is roughly $145

However, redundancy is a factor. If the 2TH Hashra goes down, you lose all your Hash. 

Second, Bitmain, at least with my orders have always shipped on time.

Hashra states "should ship" by 9/20. 

Bitmain states "will ship by 9/20 OR EARLIER"

My vote goes with the Antminer.

Strato

You have to have an external controller for the Hashra... a Pi or a PC. I much prefer the integrated controller on the antminer.
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