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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 286. (Read 710164 times)

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I'm dirty blonde if you want to call it that....

Clearly NOT a dorm room
legendary
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That's good stats, but why do you care so much about the HW rate? All what is important is production per time period. 824 errors if not possible to calculate without diff A and diff R numbers. maybe it is still low. I would say that if HW error (calculated properly) is less than 1%, then it is still worth it to go to 237.5. I have one S3 that has one asic with an X at 237.5, but total speed is still 464-465 GH, which is better than 441, so I stay with 237.5 for it.

Good point. I guess I just panicked because the hardware error increase was so dramatic so quickly.

I might try bumping it back up to 237.5 and leaving it for a day, then recompute the stats. I might also try bumping up the stock unit. It's worth seeing what it can do.
legendary
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Yes am interested, thanks.
Especially for the stat analysis and logic behind it.

On a different note, eMule has be a close friend of mine for years.
Are you related?

You're welcome.

Sorry, I don't know eMule Wink  I used eDonkey years ago for online gaming, and it just stuck.
sr. member
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If anyone is interested, I'm posting the stats on my two B3 units where one is slightly over clocked and the other is stock. I picked which unit to over clock based on the fact that it had the lowest hardware errors after running for several days.

Note that both units are running at a colo facility with 208 volt power and temperature control. The stock unit runs about 38 degrees and the over clocked one between 38 and 39.

I'm using 2 CX750M PSUs, one per S3. I know it's overkill, but I bought them before we all found out that the S3s are not over clock friendly. I used all 4 power connectors because I wanted to experiment with over clocking from a distance without having to go to colo and move plugs around. FYI, none of the plugs or cables have ever felt warm to the touch.

Here are the stats after running for almost 6 days with the above configuration:

FrequencyGH/sHWDiffADiffRError Rate %
218.75  441.44  1,732  50,942,208  63,488  0.00339558387456823
225  453.36  8,056  52,252,928  71,680  0.0153938274573601

The delta is that the over clocked unit is providing about 2.7% more accepts with about 3.5 times more hardware errors. Prior to over clocking the hardware errors were quite a bit less than the current stock unit. But the nearly 3% increase in accepts seems worth it to me.

Note that I also tried a frequency of 237.5 on the over clocked unit, but I got 824 HW errors after 20 minutes. This seemed like an insane error rate, so I backed it off to 225.

Yes am interested, thanks.
Especially for the stat analysis and logic behind it.

On a different note, eMule has be a close friend of mine for years.
Are you related?
legendary
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If anyone is interested, I'm posting the stats on my two B3 units where one is slightly over clocked and the other is stock. I picked which unit to over clock based on the fact that it had the lowest hardware errors after running for several days.

Note that both units are running at a colo facility with 208 volt power and temperature control. The stock unit runs about 38 degrees and the over clocked one between 38 and 39.

I'm using 2 CX750M PSUs, one per S3. I know it's overkill, but I bought them before we all found out that the S3s are not over clock friendly. I used all 4 power connectors because I wanted to experiment with over clocking from a distance without having to go to colo and move plugs around. FYI, none of the plugs or cables have ever felt warm to the touch.

Here are the stats after running for almost 6 days with the above configuration:

FrequencyGH/sHWDiffADiffRError Rate %
218.75  441.44  1,732  50,942,208  63,488  0.00339558387456823
225  453.36  8,056  52,252,928  71,680  0.0153938274573601

The delta is that the over clocked unit is providing about 2.7% more accepts with about 3.5 times more hardware errors. Prior to over clocking the hardware errors were quite a bit less than the current stock unit. But the nearly 3% increase in accepts seems worth it to me.

Note that I also tried a frequency of 237.5 on the over clocked unit, but I got 824 HW errors after 20 minutes. This seemed like an insane error rate, so I backed it off to 225.


That's good stats, but why do you care so much about the HW rate? All what is important is production per time period. 824 errors if not possible to calculate without diff A and diff R numbers. maybe it is still low. I would say that if HW error (calculated properly) is less than 1%, then it is still worth it to go to 237.5. I have one S3 that has one asic with an X at 237.5, but total speed is still 464-465 GH, which is better than 441, so I stay with 237.5 for it.
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I'm guessing this is not normal?





There is Magic Smoke that is trapped inside all electronics devices.
The Magic Smoke has escaped those components.
You must replace those components with new components that have the Magic Smoke still imprisoned in them.
Then your S3 will function again.

Seriously, from your pics, looks like a couple of SMD (Surface Mount Device) resistors/capacitors experienced an excessive over current condition.
Can't read the litho on the card next to the components in your pics. RXXX = a resistor, CXXX = a capacitor where XXX is the component number.
Take a que-tip dipped in iso-propol alcohol and clean off the charring next to those components to be able to read the litho on the circuit card. Make sure you're well grounded when doing this, else static electricity might toast something else.

To read the markings on the components that identify their values you'll likely have to look at another undamaged machine.
This type of component is dirt cheap, shipping on new parts will likely exceed the cost of all those components combined. We're talking a total order $$$ amount under $25.
They can be ordered from a plethora of online sources. I order a lot from Digikey cuz' they're nearby and shipping times are brief.
Once obtained and still being well grounded, de-solder the burnt parts and solder in the new.

Identifying why the Magic Smoke escaped those components is of particular interest to me and likely to others.
legendary
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If anyone is interested, I'm posting the stats on my two B3 units where one is slightly over clocked and the other is stock. I picked which unit to over clock based on the fact that it had the lowest hardware errors after running for several days.

Note that both units are running at a colo facility with 208 volt power and temperature control. The stock unit runs about 38 degrees and the over clocked one between 38 and 39.

I'm using 2 CX750M PSUs, one per S3. I know it's overkill, but I bought them before we all found out that the S3s are not over clock friendly. I used all 4 power connectors because I wanted to experiment with over clocking from a distance without having to go to colo and move plugs around. FYI, none of the plugs or cables have ever felt warm to the touch.

Here are the stats after running for almost 6 days with the above configuration:

FrequencyGH/sHWDiffADiffRError Rate %
218.75  441.44  1,732  50,942,208  63,488  0.00339558387456823
225  453.36  8,056  52,252,928  71,680  0.0153938274573601

The delta is that the over clocked unit is providing about 2.7% more accepts with about 3.5 times more hardware errors. Prior to over clocking the hardware errors were quite a bit less than the current stock unit. But the nearly 3% increase in accepts seems worth it to me.

Note that I also tried a frequency of 237.5 on the over clocked unit, but I got 824 HW errors after 20 minutes. This seemed like an insane error rate, so I backed it off to 225.
legendary
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I'm guessing this is not normal?

[IM]https://i.imgur.com/fymGVXjl.jpg[/img]
[IM]https://i.imgur.com/Mr400HGl.jpg[/img]


Seems like you overclocked the miner. right? or you applied a non standard DC input?
A change of that capacitor will fix your issue. Those resistors are damaged of not?
If overclocking did that, I'm not sure I want to try and OC mine now. I am one of a lucky few that got four miners that work stable at 440Gh/s on sock freq 218.75.

With this hardware, overclocking id risky.
But the question at hand is did you OC and get that damage from it and if so, what freq was it on and what did you jump to from it ?

There's been plenty of people OC here and none I have seen reported these kinds of issues.

To booradlly
No I didn't do an overclock. But your symptoms as per the images force me to think like that.
I used to overclock my gpus long back and got into this kind of isues.
I usually get this kind of a thing when voltage of the chip(s) increased.
Looks a lot like a capacitor blew after a power surge from something like nearby lightning, its almost identical to what the PCB on my LG monitor looked like after lightning struck the parking lot across the highway from my office.

Are you guys using high joules surge protectors for your miners?
If not, you are risking the same as shown (boards blown). There are plenty of thunderstorms in the summer in my area, so I stocked up at the Microcenter on a few of surge protectors.
sr. member
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Brainwashed this way
How long does it take BITMAIN to reply to an order???

It has been 5 days since I send them the remittance statement for an order of some S3s.I still havent recieve any feedback from them,not a word.I sent copy of the message,that I got from my bank with my shipping adress.Is this normal?

Bank? What website did u order from?
hero member
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gotta let a coin be a coin
We really need a bitmain FAQ. The same questions come up over and over bloating this thread.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
anyone know if the batch 6 gear has begun shipping?  It may start early Right now it is 11pm in china on sunday.

 I ask because my  edit button on my batch 6 order has dropped off.
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Is there any trick to make my webbrowser store the password?
Tried IE, Mozilla and Chrome. I store the passwords with each of them, but every next login it will no work again.
hero member
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A few questions for anyone who has imported Antminer to EU.
Is there any invoice with the shipment? Value?
How the miner is described in papers? Any custom problems?
Thanks!


Reply from bitmaintech can be instant or sometimes it will take some time.
No no invoice is provided with the shipment and you can use the one available in the website.
In the shipping declaration unlike S1 and S2 they declared the full correct value in US dollar.
In declaration the product is described as "Bitcoin Miner". No customs issues.
They may call if some officers don't know what Bitcoin Miner is. Bitcoin is famous but mining thing is not so familiar to all.
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A few questions for anyone who has imported Antminer to EU.
Is there any invoice with the shipment? Value?
How the miner is described in papers? Any custom problems?
Thanks!
newbie
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How long does it take BITMAIN to reply to an order???

It has been 5 days since I send them the remittance statement for an order of some S3s.I still havent recieve any feedback from them,not a word.I sent copy of the message,that I got from my bank with my shipping adress.Is this normal?
hero member
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Is there anyone here that can post what PSU they have and if its powering an overclocked antminer s3?
I am a dumb girl that can't figure out this whole PSU situation
I can't choose between a CX500, CX600 or CX750 per antminer.
The cost between those power supplies are quite a bit for me.
HELP!

WHAT CONFUSES ME IS THAT SOME PEOPLE SAY I SHOULD GET A PSU WITH 4 SEPERATE PCI-E connections.
SOME PEOPLE SAY THE ANTMINER S3 will overclock well on 2 SEPERATE PCI-E CONNECTIONS.

I can't choose!

Here is my DIY thread for sizing/finding a Power Supply for S3 or any other dc device.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diy-allcoinminers-power-supply-sizing-guide-732106
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Hi I have been on another thread a pool one and a user which we been trying to help pointed something out after looking around a few threads I noticed what this user pointed out also appears on alot of the screenshots of diff users....  

Now to the poss bug....    On the miners status page where is is reporting the diff1 shares vs the diffA shares there is a massive diffence there where in theory the diff 1 and the diff a should be very close to each other in terms of numbers like they are on the s1

For examples of this refer to this thread and the screenshots of different peoples s3 rigs https://bitcointa.lk/threads/antminer-s3-discussion-and-support-thread.335840/page-105

You will notice every screen shot there is a massive diff in reported diff1 shares vs the diffa shares.    Now in theory that diff 1 number should be higher or very close to the diffa number not miles lower than the diff A shares even when ya look at the share diff and times the shares in all of them screenshots the diff1 number is well under what a simple bit of maths shows that diff1 should be...

Cheers


just further to this what is that diff 1 number reporting as diff1 shares atm Huh?  <<<<< this one more out of interest....
legendary
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This may have been asked somewhere else, but how can I order 3 S3's and use my three remaining coupons on the one order? Or can I only use one coupon per order of 2 miners?

You can use 1 coupon per miner, so if you order 2 you can use 2 coupons..

Can use 2 coupons per order.
Technically yes per allcoins reply since one order contains two miners given the current MOQ.
hero member
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This may have been asked somewhere else, but how can I order 3 S3's and use my three remaining coupons on the one order? Or can I only use one coupon per order of 2 miners?

You can use 1 coupon per miner, so if you order 2 you can use 2 coupons..

Can use 2 coupons per order.
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This may have been asked somewhere else, but how can I order 3 S3's and use my three remaining coupons on the one order? Or can I only use one coupon per order of 2 miners?

You can use 1 coupon per miner, so if you order 2 you can use 2 coupons..
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