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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 340. (Read 710164 times)

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Hey Bitmain, could you please get the documentation on chips, boards and protocol to the BFGMiner developers? I'd like to give it a try on my S3s but they say they still need documentation to write a suitable driver...
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I unplugged an old miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged one right in.

......................and!?!?!?!?!?!


please I have got to know!

I'm not going sleep tonight.

Bravo Junkbarman!!!

Wish all the "stories" here had been written by you  Grin Grin Grin
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The best thermal pads are not as good as the worst grease....I can see why they said not to use pads as the heatsinks were machined with a certain tolerance to be in direct contact with the ASICs (I will find out how much now when I take 1 machine apart again) pads are garbage just use a good grease and you can be messy applying it like Bitmain a la birthday cake icing style but its better not to get it where its not needed...the inside should pretty much cover the metal part with grease for optimal heat transfer ...I am about to take off the sinks from 1 of the machines and reverse the blades to see if it makes a difference..this machine went from 420ish to 400 now after a reboot  Angry

I can absolutely confirm that all of my B3 units front-side heatsinks were not anchored down properly. Burrs on the aluminum were keeping the tension springs from working at all and the screws were backed out. The HS itself started getting warm and functioning properly after reapplying. I used ceramic paste.

I can also absolutely confirm that this did nothing for my hashrate. I feel better knowing that the units are properly torqued now, but nothing about the way these units hash is heat-related, I am almost certain of this. When I had my BTCkenstein put together, I couldnt probe a part of the miner that was over 31C
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Just as a side, BMT told me specifically not to use pads.

The best thermal pads are not as good as the worst grease....I can see why they said not to use pads as the heatsinks were machined with a certain tolerance to be in direct contact with the ASICs (I will find out how much now when I take 1 machine apart again) pads are garbage just use a good grease and you can be messy applying it like Bitmain a la birthday cake icing style but its better not to get it where its not needed...the inside should pretty much cover the metal part with grease for optimal heat transfer ...I am about to take off the sinks from 1 of the machines and reverse the blades to see if it makes a difference..this machine went from 420ish to 400 now after a reboot  Angry
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I unplugged an old miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged one right in.

......................and!?!?!?!?!?!


please I have got to know!

I'm not going sleep tonight.

yeah I am waiting for:
 
1) the rest of this story

2) an update on my zen cloud miners

3) an update that my s-3's have landed in Kentucky .
legendary
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I unplugged an old miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged one right in.

......................and!?!?!?!?!?!


please I have got to know!

I'm not going sleep tonight.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I unplugged an old miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged one right in.

......................and!?!?!?!?!?!


please I have got to know!
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why dont you try thermal pads...Huh




Just as a side, BMT told me specifically not to use pads.
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I unplugged an old miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged one right in.

......................and!?!?!?!?!?!
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Hey Biodom, it is capacitive.  Your should not use anything silver based near electricity.  The arctic silver site even says as much in a warning.  

Again, don't use a conductive or *capacitive* paste on these chips.  There is no way you will keep them off all of the pins and it will come in contact with electricity.  Again, even the manufacture says to not use it where it may come in contact with electricity.

I am sure AS is great for a large processor with pins on the opposite side of the chip.  However, that is not this situation.
why dont you try thermal pads...Huh


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To all of those who have worked the front heatsink and paste. How tight did you go when re-attaching? I normally wouldn't be paranoid about things like this but it seems like they weren't that tight from the factory at all. Certainly don't want to crush any SMCs.

Tighten until resistance?


DO NOT USE ARCTIC SILVER 5 IT CONDUCTS ELECTRICITY ..OR ANYTHING WITH SILVER IN IT.... STOP THIS NOW and if you have done this....get cleaning using a proper electronics alcohol FFS  Roll Eyes



No, it does NOT. Please stop posting potentially wrong info with so much emphasis.
From the product sheet:
Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.

Sheesh

regarding thermal grease: unfortunately reapplication of grease did not help AT ALL (at 18 hr mark). See below how bad the grease was applied in batch 3 machine by BMT, yet no help from new grease.




You are both a danger and a joke at the expense of your own EGO? why not post the rest of the page FROM THE AS5 SITE?  Huh Roll Eyes

Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)


Exactly. You said that it conducts electricity in your barrage, NOT that it has capacitive properties. Keep it away from pins and you'll be OK. Conductor=material that permits passage of electrical current. capacitor=electrical component used to store energy ELECTROSTATICALLY. Generally, a little more research and less emphatic expressions would be beneficial.


Are you in marketing or just believe everything you read....what annoyed me the most was that you re-gurgitated the words from the AS5 site but willfully neglected to post the CRUCIAL WARNING underneath the sunshine you were attempting to have come from your ass
a line of grease storing electrical charge...what exactly happens in your world when grease storing electrical charge  Roll Eyes comes in contact with components its not designed to contact? (correct word is SHORT CIRCUIT with  64 pins around each ASIC)

try an experiment with your capacitive grease make a line of it with voltage on 1 end in contact and measure the other....tell me what the voltmeter says besides 0.00 I wont spoil the result...you cant keep it away from pins unless I don't know what..but in this application it is not practical at all...and there is a huge difference between the modern CPUs that AS5 is designed for..even then why use something that has a potential for catastrophe when it can be so easily avoided...Artic silver was good back in the day...till people shorted out too many boards video cards etc...evolution is a wonderful thing...
u can brush your teeth holding the toothbrush in a barrel of a loaded pistol if you want to be a real cowboy
sorry I had to go a bit off topic but a laugh is always healthy
legendary
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Stumbling aimless towards the support beam in my basement, I managed to secure one miner against my chest. The other miner was doomed, flying across the room with such force it hit the chair with a thud. Kicking towards the cat, I quickly set down the box I had managed to hold on to and rushed towards the other box like one would rush towards loved one who had injured themselves.

Recalling all the humane societies in the area, I used my pocket knife to cut the tape from the box and opened up the miner. The damage was minimal, the padding had held. Turning towards the cat, she was no where to be found. Like the waitress, I had no love for that cat and decided no amount of beer would change such things.

Maybe it's my ADD or just needing to change my tone, I hit play on the Netflix and continued to take the miner from it's brown padded box. Seeing no reason to worry about this any longer, I unplugged a miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged on right in.

Keep your day job. Don't apply for a writer on tv shows.
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Stumbling aimless towards the support beam in my basement, I managed to secure one miner against my chest. The other miner was doomed, flying across the room with such force it hit the chair with a thud. Kicking towards the cat, I quickly set down the box I had managed to hold on to and rushed towards the other box like one would rush towards loved one who had injured themselves.

Recalling all the humane societies in the area, I used my pocket knife to cut the tape from the box and opened up the miner. The damage was minimal, the padding had held. Turning towards the cat, she was no where to be found. Like the waitress, I had no love for that cat and decided no amount of beer would change such things.

Maybe it's my ADD or just needing to change my tone, I hit play on the Netflix and continued to take the miner from it's brown padded box. Seeing no reason to worry about this any longer, I unplugged a miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged on right in.

Keep your day job. Don't apply for a writer on tv shows.
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Activity: 168
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Stumbling aimless towards the support beam in my basement, I managed to secure one miner against my chest. The other miner was doomed, flying across the room with such force it hit the chair with a thud. Kicking towards the cat, I quickly set down the box I had managed to hold on to and rushed towards the other box like one would rush towards loved one who had injured themselves.

Recalling all the humane societies in the area, I used my pocket knife to cut the tape from the box and opened up the miner. The damage was minimal, the padding had held. Turning towards the cat, she was no where to be found. Like the waitress, I had no love for that cat and decided no amount of beer would change such things.

Maybe it's my ADD or just needing to change my tone, I hit play on the Netflix and continued to take the miner from it's brown padded box. Seeing no reason to worry about this any longer, I unplugged an old miner and promptly plugged this new, potentially damaged one right in.
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Man I tried.. They said driver would not be back until 7:15. They close @ 7PM. lol. I told them to hold it and I'll just pick up there tomorrow.
I hate when this happens. At least it's in town and not stuck in a shipping fiasco like some.

Missed my UPS guy and he didn't leave them. Called in and I'm going to try and pick them up from the UPS office this evening. The one time this dude comes before 6PM.



if ur packages arrived at the warehouse, go call the UPS, and ask them if you can pick it up by urself now
u'll always ended up dissapointed if u want to wait them to deliver it
trust me, just pick it up urself, then mine immediately

I got mine today, heard him from the basement with his squeaky ass brakes. Ran upstairs to see him "tossing" them up to the front of his brown van, and then deliver them to me.

He got my signature, verified the address, I asked him if he needed any ID and he said "no, whats your last name".. Satisfied with my answer he said "Have a nice day." I told him you too and went inside.

Then what happened?

I know, I'm gripped, the anticipation is killing me.

After going inside, I realized these were heavier then I wished to carry at that point in my life. So I set both boxes down, rubbing my back gently, as I can get some aches from time to time.

Staring thoughtlessly at my new miners, still wrapped in their plain brown boxes I remembered 3 things.

First, I really did not like the new waitress at the restaurant down the street, she was quite ugly.
Second, I was thirsty and wanted a beer.
Finally, I really had better get these things down stairs, before my wife arrived home.

I'm okay if this becomes a thing. Please continue.

Taking a long drag from my cigarette, I wondered if the ugly waitress holding a beer would change my opinion of her? You see I hadn't actually introduced myself, I worried she was the type that was desperate for attention from men. I quickly dismissed the idea as I put each miner under my arms and carried them into the basement.

I quickly descended the stairs, feeling the warmth on my face increase with every step along the way. I noticed I had left the netflix on, an episode of Family Guy was staring back at me. You know the episode where James Woods invites everyone to his mansion and then gets killed?

I can't recall what exactly happened next, either it was the smoke from my cigarette that got into my eye or just the damn cat brushing my leg. But, the next thing I knew, both arms were releasing the miners as I braced myself for a fall. I hated that cat. I knew my dog would never trip me, especially not with my beloved miners in my arms.

legendary
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Man I tried.. They said driver would not be back until 7:15. They close @ 7PM. lol. I told them to hold it and I'll just pick up there tomorrow.
I hate when this happens. At least it's in town and not stuck in a shipping fiasco like some.

Missed my UPS guy and he didn't leave them. Called in and I'm going to try and pick them up from the UPS office this evening. The one time this dude comes before 6PM.



if ur packages arrived at the warehouse, go call the UPS, and ask them if you can pick it up by urself now
u'll always ended up dissapointed if u want to wait them to deliver it
trust me, just pick it up urself, then mine immediately

I got mine today, heard him from the basement with his squeaky ass brakes. Ran upstairs to see him "tossing" them up to the front of his brown van, and then deliver them to me.

He got my signature, verified the address, I asked him if he needed any ID and he said "no, whats your last name".. Satisfied with my answer he said "Have a nice day." I told him you too and went inside.

Then what happened?

I know, I'm gripped, the anticipation is killing me.

After going inside, I realized these were heavier then I wished to carry at that point in my life. So I set both boxes down, rubbing my back gently, as I can get some aches from time to time.

Staring thoughtlessly at my new miners, still wrapped in their plain brown boxes I remembered 3 things.

First, I really did not like the new waitress at the restaurant down the street, she was quite ugly.
Second, I was thirsty and wanted a beer.
Finally, I really had better get these things down stairs, before my wife arrived home.

I'm okay if this becomes a thing. Please continue.

Ditto.  But we are going to need longer submissions from you.
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Man I tried.. They said driver would not be back until 7:15. They close @ 7PM. lol. I told them to hold it and I'll just pick up there tomorrow.
I hate when this happens. At least it's in town and not stuck in a shipping fiasco like some.

Missed my UPS guy and he didn't leave them. Called in and I'm going to try and pick them up from the UPS office this evening. The one time this dude comes before 6PM.



if ur packages arrived at the warehouse, go call the UPS, and ask them if you can pick it up by urself now
u'll always ended up dissapointed if u want to wait them to deliver it
trust me, just pick it up urself, then mine immediately

I got mine today, heard him from the basement with his squeaky ass brakes. Ran upstairs to see him "tossing" them up to the front of his brown van, and then deliver them to me.

He got my signature, verified the address, I asked him if he needed any ID and he said "no, whats your last name".. Satisfied with my answer he said "Have a nice day." I told him you too and went inside.

Then what happened?

I know, I'm gripped, the anticipation is killing me.

After going inside, I realized these were heavier then I wished to carry at that point in my life. So I set both boxes down, rubbing my back gently, as I can get some aches from time to time.

Staring thoughtlessly at my new miners, still wrapped in their plain brown boxes I remembered 3 things.

First, I really did not like the new waitress at the restaurant down the street, she was quite ugly.
Second, I was thirsty and wanted a beer.
Finally, I really had better get these things down stairs, before my wife arrived home.

I'm okay if this becomes a thing. Please continue.
legendary
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Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
Looking for a coupon for the S3, if you have one I will pay for it. First PM with a reasonable offer gets the deal.
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Man I tried.. They said driver would not be back until 7:15. They close @ 7PM. lol. I told them to hold it and I'll just pick up there tomorrow.
I hate when this happens. At least it's in town and not stuck in a shipping fiasco like some.

Missed my UPS guy and he didn't leave them. Called in and I'm going to try and pick them up from the UPS office this evening. The one time this dude comes before 6PM.



if ur packages arrived at the warehouse, go call the UPS, and ask them if you can pick it up by urself now
u'll always ended up dissapointed if u want to wait them to deliver it
trust me, just pick it up urself, then mine immediately

I got mine today, heard him from the basement with his squeaky ass brakes. Ran upstairs to see him "tossing" them up to the front of his brown van, and then deliver them to me.

He got my signature, verified the address, I asked him if he needed any ID and he said "no, whats your last name".. Satisfied with my answer he said "Have a nice day." I told him you too and went inside.

Then what happened?

I know, I'm gripped, the anticipation is killing me.

After going inside, I realized these were heavier then I wished to carry at that point in my life. So I set both boxes down, rubbing my back gently, as I can get some aches from time to time.

Staring thoughtlessly at my new miners, still wrapped in their plain brown boxes I remembered 3 things.

First, I really did not like the new waitress at the restaurant down the street, she was quite ugly.
Second, I was thirsty and wanted a beer.
Finally, I really had better get these things down stairs, before my wife arrived home.
OMG...hahaha!  Continue on please!
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1001
Man I tried.. They said driver would not be back until 7:15. They close @ 7PM. lol. I told them to hold it and I'll just pick up there tomorrow.
I hate when this happens. At least it's in town and not stuck in a shipping fiasco like some.

Missed my UPS guy and he didn't leave them. Called in and I'm going to try and pick them up from the UPS office this evening. The one time this dude comes before 6PM.



if ur packages arrived at the warehouse, go call the UPS, and ask them if you can pick it up by urself now
u'll always ended up dissapointed if u want to wait them to deliver it
trust me, just pick it up urself, then mine immediately

I got mine today, heard him from the basement with his squeaky ass brakes. Ran upstairs to see him "tossing" them up to the front of his brown van, and then deliver them to me.

He got my signature, verified the address, I asked him if he needed any ID and he said "no, whats your last name".. Satisfied with my answer he said "Have a nice day." I told him you too and went inside.

Then what happened?

I know, I'm gripped, the anticipation is killing me.

After going inside, I realized these were heavier then I wished to carry at that point in my life. So I set both boxes down, rubbing my back gently, as I can get some aches from time to time.

Staring thoughtlessly at my new miners, still wrapped in their plain brown boxes I remembered 3 things.
What, that...

1) This
2) Is
3) Stupid

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