Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 488. (Read 710164 times)
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How are we going to use the 10% off when s3 is sold out?
Dont worry brother, they will be selling again in no time. They are prob just getting caught up on orders. Bitmain will sells hundreds of thousands of these, just like the S1. 
How are we going to use the 10% off when s3 is sold out?
Partial refund sounds like the best option until we can see how stable these units are.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Since the specifications were changed, I doubt whether the second fan is necessary.
Demanding a full or partial refund is morally ok but, still the product as per the statement holds the 0.77J/GH.
Since they are refunding and Product efficiency is there I don't think there is a need for the full refund.
The proportional refund offered is enough and if the discount of 10% is excellent, if, as we consider its of current order price.
Hope they will redesign this S3 in batch 3 and an S3+ or an S4 will be there.
Hello everyone,
When we were doing the first mass production, we found that not all of the S3’s DC/DC module could be stable enough to support the 478GH/s speed. After long time testing, all of the S3 run stably at 441GH/s, which however is 7.7% less than the 478GH/s we have announced.
So we decide the final specification of ANTMINER S3 here:
Hash Rate: 441 GH/s or more
Power Consumption: about 340 Watt at the wall when running at 441GH/s
Power Efficiency: 0.77 J/GH on wall
Power Supply: 12V DC
Size: 331 mm x 137 mm x 160 mm
Fans: Two 14038 fans mounted on both front and back ends.
Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
Complied with: FCC / CE
Network Connection: Ethernet
Many of the customers may be lucky to find that their S3 can be overclocked to 478GH/s.
We apologize for this incident. We offer two options for customers:
1) 10.0% worth of coupon for the B1~B3 customers. This is the default option. (10% based on what you have paid for the B1~B3)
2) 7.7% worth of refund. We will release a function on our official website for application of this option. If you have bought from our resellers, please contact them and provide your Bitcoin address.
Shipping schedule updated:
Batch 1: The shipping will be finished in 14th and 17th.
Batch 2: It will be shipping out between 18th and 19th.
Batch 3: It will be shipping out between 19th and 22nd.
When we were doing the first mass production, we found that not all of the S3’s DC/DC module could be stable enough to support the 478GH/s speed. After long time testing, all of the S3 run stably at 441GH/s, which however is 7.7% less than the 478GH/s we have announced.
So we decide the final specification of ANTMINER S3 here:
Hash Rate: 441 GH/s or more
Power Consumption: about 340 Watt at the wall when running at 441GH/s
Power Efficiency: 0.77 J/GH on wall
Power Supply: 12V DC
Size: 331 mm x 137 mm x 160 mm
Fans: Two 14038 fans mounted on both front and back ends.
Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
Complied with: FCC / CE
Network Connection: Ethernet
Many of the customers may be lucky to find that their S3 can be overclocked to 478GH/s.
We apologize for this incident. We offer two options for customers:
1) 10.0% worth of coupon for the B1~B3 customers. This is the default option. (10% based on what you have paid for the B1~B3)
2) 7.7% worth of refund. We will release a function on our official website for application of this option. If you have bought from our resellers, please contact them and provide your Bitcoin address.
Shipping schedule updated:
Batch 1: The shipping will be finished in 14th and 17th.
Batch 2: It will be shipping out between 18th and 19th.
Batch 3: It will be shipping out between 19th and 22nd.
Anyone able to explain the bold text above?
What was causing the DC-DC module to become unstable and stable in some?
Anyone capable of pouring some technical or theoretical explanation for this phenomenon?
sure chips and most caps resistors whatever are -+ 5% so the modules built had a lot of -5 % parts in them.
happens in the best companies. INTEL has been making cpu chips that vary as much as 10% for overclocking. why not the dc to dc module here have a larger then desired variance.
I am all the more likely to run mine at 400gh and hope for 280 watts.
That's true but for overclocking means when we trust them.
But all components at standard / ideal condition should work almost equal or with very negligible variance.
A component which collapses due to this variance is strange.
It should be considered that they overkilled the design to get 0.77J/GH.
Partial refund sounds like the best option until we can see how stable these units are.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Hate to say it but I probably would too. This was a bad time for Bitmain to over promise and under deliver.
Second big "doo-doo" of BitMain...first was S2...now S3...
Only S1 track record is still holding my faith alive...
ZiG
Partial refund sounds like the best option until we can see how stable these units are.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Hate to say it but I probably would too. This was a bad time for Bitmain to over promise and under deliver.
Sadly it seems like the 17th and the 20th are the next two dates we will be waiting for. No communication from Bitmain to clear the confusion. I hope it all works out okay.
They're coming, trust me. And yes, I am poking the bear and legging it.
u're late sir
if yesterday, u said that
then today, u'll be the Hero of the Hero in here
hug him tightly and dont let him go, even if u're goin to die together
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Partial refund sounds like the best option until we can see how stable these units are.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Edit: I might even go for a full refund if that was available.
Sadly it seems like the 17th and the 20th are the next two dates we will be waiting for. No communication from Bitmain to clear the confusion. I hope it all works out okay.
They're coming, trust me. And yes, I am poking the bear and legging it.
Sadly it seems like the 17th and the 20th are the next two dates we will be waiting for. No communication from Bitmain to clear the confusion. I hope it all works out okay.
10% coupon would 10% off the price you will be paying when you are able to use the coupon. If s3 is 0.7 and you have to buy 2 for a total of 1.4BTC you would be getting 0.14 off for a total of 1.26 or 0.63 each.
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With the lower hash rate and the concern about overclocking ability due the problem found, plus diff going up when batch 4 is available, I wouldn't be surprised if s3 will be priced @ 0.704 or lower
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With the lower hash rate and the concern about overclocking ability due the problem found, plus diff going up when batch 4 is available, I wouldn't be surprised if s3 will be priced @ 0.704 or lower
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Hello everyone,
When we were doing the first mass production, we found that not all of the S3’s DC/DC module could be stable enough to support the 478GH/s speed. After long time testing, all of the S3 run stably at 441GH/s, which however is 7.7% less than the 478GH/s we have announced.
So we decide the final specification of ANTMINER S3 here:
Hash Rate: 441 GH/s or more
Power Consumption: about 340 Watt at the wall when running at 441GH/s
Power Efficiency: 0.77 J/GH on wall
Power Supply: 12V DC
Size: 331 mm x 137 mm x 160 mm
Fans: Two 14038 fans mounted on both front and back ends.
Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
Complied with: FCC / CE
Network Connection: Ethernet
Many of the customers may be lucky to find that their S3 can be overclocked to 478GH/s.
We apologize for this incident. We offer two options for customers:
1) 10.0% worth of coupon for the B1~B3 customers. This is the default option. (10% based on what you have paid for the B1~B3)
2) 7.7% worth of refund. We will release a function on our official website for application of this option. If you have bought from our resellers, please contact them and provide your Bitcoin address.
Shipping schedule updated:
Batch 1: The shipping will be finished in 14th and 17th.
Batch 2: It will be shipping out between 18th and 19th.
Batch 3: It will be shipping out between 19th and 22nd.
When we were doing the first mass production, we found that not all of the S3’s DC/DC module could be stable enough to support the 478GH/s speed. After long time testing, all of the S3 run stably at 441GH/s, which however is 7.7% less than the 478GH/s we have announced.
So we decide the final specification of ANTMINER S3 here:
Hash Rate: 441 GH/s or more
Power Consumption: about 340 Watt at the wall when running at 441GH/s
Power Efficiency: 0.77 J/GH on wall
Power Supply: 12V DC
Size: 331 mm x 137 mm x 160 mm
Fans: Two 14038 fans mounted on both front and back ends.
Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
Complied with: FCC / CE
Network Connection: Ethernet
Many of the customers may be lucky to find that their S3 can be overclocked to 478GH/s.
We apologize for this incident. We offer two options for customers:
1) 10.0% worth of coupon for the B1~B3 customers. This is the default option. (10% based on what you have paid for the B1~B3)
2) 7.7% worth of refund. We will release a function on our official website for application of this option. If you have bought from our resellers, please contact them and provide your Bitcoin address.
Shipping schedule updated:
Batch 1: The shipping will be finished in 14th and 17th.
Batch 2: It will be shipping out between 18th and 19th.
Batch 3: It will be shipping out between 19th and 22nd.
Anyone able to explain the bold text above?
What was causing the DC-DC module to become unstable and stable in some?
Anyone capable of pouring some technical or theoretical explanation for this phenomenon?
sure chips and most caps resistors whatever are -+ 5% so the modules built had a lot of -5 % parts in them.
happens in the best companies. INTEL has been making cpu chips that vary as much as 10% for overclocking. why not the dc to dc module here have a larger then desired variance.
I am all the more likely to run mine at 400gh and hope for 280 watts.
Doing the math on the compensation offer...
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Money in hand is the smarter option, but I'm such a sucker for coupons. It was such a brilliant move on Bitmains part, though.
but wasnt it a 10% coupon of the total amount you payed for batch 1,2 or 3?
10% coupon would 10% off the price you will be paying when you are able to use the coupon. If s3 is 0.7 and you have to buy 2 for a total of 1.4BTC you would be getting 0.14 off for a total of 1.26 or 0.63 each.
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"10.0% worth of coupon for the B1~B3 customers. This is the default option. (10% based on what you have paid for the B1~B3)"
My coupon should be worth 0.15 BTC. I'll take it as long as it doesn't expire to quickly.
My coupon should be worth 0.15 BTC. I'll take it as long as it doesn't expire to quickly.
Well i payed 2 units, so coupon would be around 80$ if its the 10% of total payed
Doing the math on the compensation offer...
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Money in hand is the smarter option, but I'm such a sucker for coupons. It was such a brilliant move on Bitmains part, though.
but wasnt it a 10% coupon of the total amount you payed for batch 1,2 or 3?
That's what dulac97 said. I don't see how it doesn't add up.
Last 2 S1's got a $400 coupon against an S2.
Wonder if there is a $400 coupon this time -- because that would make the S2's real tempting
having a PSU already included
$1610 minus $400 = $1210 = about 2 BTC
plus if there is the option for refund too -- makes it even more sweet
Doing the math on the compensation offer...
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Money in hand is the smarter option, but I'm such a sucker for coupons. It was such a brilliant move on Bitmains part, though.
but wasnt it a 10% coupon of the total amount you payed for batch 1,2 or 3?
Even if it is, you're still only looking at a $10.69 bonus per future miner ordered.
Doing the math on the compensation offer...
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Assume you bought 2 S3s from Batch 1 .75 BTC x 2 = 1.5 BTC
A refund of 7.7% = .1155 BTC
A coupon for 10% off of your next purchase of 2 miners at the current purchase price of .725 BTC each = (.725 * 2)(.1)= .145 BTC
Net difference is .145 - .1155 = .0295 BTC, or about $18.29.
That's only getting a $9 per miner bonus on a future order, not knowing at this point how future batches will hash.
Perhaps the 10% off coupon will apply to an unlimited number of miners on your future order, in which case the coupon will be of greater value. Or maybe it won't have an expiration and you could use it when it becomes of maximum value. But to me, it seems like money in hand is the better option.
Money in hand is the smarter option, but I'm such a sucker for coupons. It was such a brilliant move on Bitmains part, though.
but wasnt it a 10% coupon of the total amount you payed for batch 1,2 or 3?
That's what dulac97 said. I don't see how it doesn't add up.
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