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hero member
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February 04, 2015, 02:39:36 PM
Hello, I  aquired a couple of antminers s3+ an one is working fine but the other is not Sad the log says:

Can anybody help me please   Huh

Make sure network is set to DHCP .... also what firmware are you running (you can get this from the intial web UI page when you log in)
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February 04, 2015, 02:36:25 PM
Hello, I  aquired a couple of antminers s3+ an one is working fine but the other is not Sad the log says:

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[   18.490000] device eth0 entered promiscuous mode
[   21.310000] eth1: link up (100Mbps/Full duplex)
[   21.690000] usb 1-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 3
[   21.690000] bitmain 1-1.1:1.0: USB Bitmain asic #0 now disconnected
[   21.950000] usb 1-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-platform
[   22.090000] bitmainbl 1-1.1:1.0: USB Bitmain bootloader device now attached to USB Bitmain bootloader-0
[   22.100000] PIC microchip bootloader usb OK
[   31.660000] no int in filled
[   33.020000] usb 1-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 4
[   33.130000] bitmainbl 1-1.1:1.0: USB Bitmain asic #0 now disconnected
[   33.580000] usb 1-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-platform
[   33.720000] bitmain 1-1.1:1.0: USB Bitmain asic device now attached to USB Bitmain asic-0
[   33.720000] PIC microchip usb OK
[   90.220000] bitmain 1-1.1:1.0: USB Bitmain asic #0 now disconnected


Can anybody help me please   Huh
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 02:32:22 PM
What is the physical difference between a S3 and a S3+ . How can I identify a S3 from a S3+ with the newest firmware installed. I own both that is why I am asking. Thanks in advance

There is a sticker in front of the unit saying S3+ => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-antminer-s3-921010

They had an issue with the DC/DC converter in the S3 which they kind of fixed with the S3+. Not sure you can see a physical difference on the DC/DC converter with your eyes. Maybe someone can point you out something on the board but i can't. I don't own an S3+.

I own both and theres no sticker that says S3+ on it unless you mean the warranty sticker that can be removed.

Strange, the link I posted show a S3+ sticker in front of the unit, i'm pretty sure I have one too at home that show S3.

Maybe they removed it from batch to batch ...
sr. member
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February 04, 2015, 01:04:17 PM
What is the physical difference between a S3 and a S3+ . How can I identify a S3 from a S3+ with the newest firmware installed. I own both that is why I am asking. Thanks in advance

There is a sticker in front of the unit saying S3+ => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-antminer-s3-921010

They had an issue with the DC/DC converter in the S3 which they kind of fixed with the S3+. Not sure you can see a physical difference on the DC/DC converter with your eyes. Maybe someone can point you out something on the board but i can't. I don't own an S3+.

I own both and theres no sticker that says S3+ on it unless you mean the warranty sticker that can be removed.
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 11:46:55 AM
What is the physical difference between a S3 and a S3+ . How can I identify a S3 from a S3+ with the newest firmware installed. I own both that is why I am asking. Thanks in advance

There is a sticker in front of the unit saying S3+ => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-antminer-s3-921010

They had an issue with the DC/DC converter in the S3 which they kind of fixed with the S3+. Not sure you can see a physical difference on the DC/DC converter with your eyes. Maybe someone can point you out something on the board but i can't. I don't own an S3+.
sr. member
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February 04, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
What is the physical difference between a S3 and a S3+ . How can I identify a S3 from a S3+ with the newest firmware installed. I own both that is why I am asking. Thanks in advance
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg
February 04, 2015, 09:33:09 AM


The 12-19 firmware is great for the S3 'underperformer' as I call them. The units I have which barely push 440 with normal temps and a 2000w PSU with nothing else on it. Which is the only way I record any 'real' numbers. Changing the voltage in 12-19 does zip for me on the same units where it does have an effect on 10-24. But, the 12-19 seems to manage these units better. Maybe it is something I did in editing frequencies on the 10-24, not sure, but voltage no work for me and I have about the same hash.

10-24 firmware, well it is for everything else. I need an updated 10-24 version to include newer options and cgminer, but adjusting the vcore to the correct setting for the chosen freq does make a big difference and is especially noticeable in the S3+ units and some? S3 with DC2DC... I don't remember but you know what I mean.
The 10-24 firmware gives me overall higher, consistent hashrates  because I am able to make adjustments to the freq and voltage to find the sweetest spot for that particular unit. I keep them clean, fans running, good power, no bs. I want the firmware to be the same Smiley

What I would love to see is someone who can look at both 10-24 and 1-9 and give us a hybrid with the good stuff. If anyone needs a unit to test with let me know Smiley



it is my understanding that the 12/19 firmware is the 10/24 firmware with the fixed reset button.. no other changes were made.

the newest one tho is completely rewritten.. it removes the auto voltage part and tweaks some other settings.. its made for those s3s that didnt come with the variable dc chips. this one performs really badly on my s3s.. i get X's and reboots.


I know this is what we have been told, but it is not true. There are other differences between these firmware versions. I cannot say from looking at the firmware what those differences are, but I can confidently say from trying both on several S3s and S3+ units.
If you want I can post numbers I've gathered from each unit running either version. It seems to me they made the change described with voltage and the "one style of hash board" as Dogie mentioned yesterday, but some change was made in 12-19 outside of the reset button.
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 09:17:00 AM
hello
i use 12/19 firmware my s3+
my one question

i try use 237.5 MHZ

how much voltage i set ?

thank you

Should be able to get away with leaving it at stock. If its not stable, you can try bumping it up by 20. As a reminder, overclocking will void any warranty you may have.
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February 04, 2015, 07:24:38 AM
hello
i use 12/19 firmware my s3+
my one question

i try use 237.5 MHZ

how much voltage i set ?

thank you
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February 04, 2015, 02:19:41 AM
hello,

it's getting same ip on dhcp 192.168.1.225 but i was set .150 ., cant ping it but when i was search the lan it says .225 ip used by a device.is there a way to reset?
thaks for the answer

hello

i was buy a second hand s3.i did something work with the network settings.(i dont write the broadcast address).thats why icant see login page on gui or cant connect via ssh.butt miner still hashing.i want to reset it but i cant  (maybe for the latest firmware).
what can i do now? how can i reset it? or is there a way to open the login page

thanks for the help

This is why its very important to flash to 12/19 or later. Can you ping the unit or find what IP it is at?
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
February 03, 2015, 02:04:58 PM
hello

i was buy a second hand s3.i did something work with the network settings.(i dont write the broadcast address).thats why icant see login page on gui or cant connect via ssh.butt miner still hashing.i want to reset it but i cant  (maybe for the latest firmware).
what can i do now? how can i reset it? or is there a way to open the login page

thanks for the help

This is why its very important to flash to 12/19 or later. Can you ping the unit or find what IP it is at?
legendary
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February 02, 2015, 11:30:44 PM


The 12-19 firmware is great for the S3 'underperformer' as I call them. The units I have which barely push 440 with normal temps and a 2000w PSU with nothing else on it. Which is the only way I record any 'real' numbers. Changing the voltage in 12-19 does zip for me on the same units where it does have an effect on 10-24. But, the 12-19 seems to manage these units better. Maybe it is something I did in editing frequencies on the 10-24, not sure, but voltage no work for me and I have about the same hash.

10-24 firmware, well it is for everything else. I need an updated 10-24 version to include newer options and cgminer, but adjusting the vcore to the correct setting for the chosen freq does make a big difference and is especially noticeable in the S3+ units and some? S3 with DC2DC... I don't remember but you know what I mean.
The 10-24 firmware gives me overall higher, consistent hashrates  because I am able to make adjustments to the freq and voltage to find the sweetest spot for that particular unit. I keep them clean, fans running, good power, no bs. I want the firmware to be the same Smiley

What I would love to see is someone who can look at both 10-24 and 1-9 and give us a hybrid with the good stuff. If anyone needs a unit to test with let me know Smiley



it is my understanding that the 12/19 firmware is the 10/24 firmware with the fixed reset button.. no other changes were made.

the newest one tho is completely rewritten.. it removes the auto voltage part and tweaks some other settings.. its made for those s3s that didnt come with the variable dc chips. this one performs really badly on my s3s.. i get X's and reboots.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg
February 02, 2015, 07:39:43 PM
I hope you are using a 20amp outlet. If its a 15a it really shouldn't be used for mining in my humble opinion.

I plugged a lamp into where I have my 2 Antminer S3+ running. Every minute or so the light flickers slightly.

Anyway to solve this? I am assuming this is inrush current with the mining cores changing clock rates or fans adjusting their speeds.



15a is fine for 2 miners running. I've got 3 on a single PSU pulling ~9A at the wall. What he needs to do is find out what else is on that breaker. If there's nothing else on the breaker then I would suspect faulty wiring or the breaker itself is going bad.

I have 3 S3 (not S3+, there is a difference of 340 to 370ish? watts, call it 30 watts per unit) on an EVGA1300 PSU temporarily on a 15 AMP 120vAC line right now. It has been temporarily there for a few days. None of the wire is hot. All connections look good. Good hashrate on the units

I had a hall light doing this same thing, sometimes flickering, it was a crackle, zzttt, zzzZtt, TzTTTZZ and the light would stay on then like nothing. There weren't any miners connected.
I told the kids it was a ghost.

Then I checked the connections at the switch, the fixture, cleaned everything, checked the wire for continuity and it has worked right since then. I've no clue which connection was bad, but it is rock steady now.

The breaker size is important, so is the wire size, and whatever power supply and connectors / wires are between them and your miners. I would always know this before connecting a miner.

If you know what you are doing forgive me for going straight for the basics, but these are the things I always start with when doing anything like this, check the wire and connections, make sure nothing is loose at the wall switch (if there is one), and anywhere it connects. If another device is on the same circuit besides the miner and lamp remove it. Also, try the lamp on a different circuit. I've seen people install the switch upside down and leave it so never assume someone else did it the right way or the way you would if it isn't right Smiley

Finally, what size breaker and exactly what devices are on it and if you know what size is the wire? I assume it is US 120vAC?

*I am not an electrician, nor will I pretend to be Smiley*)

For more off topic or off color discussion...

I do not do this and do not recommend it. (Hint, use low voltage supply and devices if doing something this stupid anyway) If you do not have a meter you can always do your own redneck continuity testing by using the wire on a different power source and device without anything else on the line! But be warned, do this at your own risk! If you blow something up do not blame me. I do not do this and do not recommend it. You can cause a short if the wire IS cut or broken. It is worth your money to have a meter if you have these kinds of 'toys'! At the same time you can take almost anything I say and make it safe or dangerous in the way you implement. Never ground a live wire, take the extra time, make two trips, know without a doubt the breaker is OFF when it should be OFF.

Invest in a good (I prefer Fluke) meter.  If possible grab a little device called AC Voltage Detector. Slightly bigger than a pen, some bigger or smaller. I picked one up at Lowes and paid too much I'm sure, I think it was 15 USD, but it is made by Southwire, has a not so bright flashlight in it, but what I do like is it is dual colors on the voltage detection end. Red when you are not near power and then green when you are. The red would be so you know the device is on and working along with providing some additional light to see by. The flashlight is on the other end. It doesn't pickup under 50v but goes to 1000V. I'm confident there are better models, but so flippin handy. The red / green end looks like it has a condom on it, cannot miss it.


Sorry for the longwindedness but I got off on that topic.
I do not want to start a new post so not many will read this far.

Anyway about the firmware for the S3 / S3+...

I have been doing my own testing since I have all of the steps down for upgrading / downgrading. It would be great if BITMAIN would work with the people in the community like pekatete and add some of the functionality or at least learn from his testing. For many it isn't always about the best overclock either, it can be about the best running machine at stock.
I have 4 S3+ and 4 S3 I have been running both the 10-24 and 12-19 firmware on. I did start with 1-9 in the mix but did indeed see a drop in hashrate on a unit I upgraded from 12-19. I waited 24 hours, rebooted, and waited another 24. Then I dropped 1-9 from my testing. I wish I hadn't, but since I did it will be a next todo.

The 12-19 firmware is great for the S3 'underperformer' as I call them. The units I have which barely push 440 with normal temps and a 2000w PSU with nothing else on it. Which is the only way I record any 'real' numbers. Changing the voltage in 12-19 does zip for me on the same units where it does have an effect on 10-24. But, the 12-19 seems to manage these units better. Maybe it is something I did in editing frequencies on the 10-24, not sure, but voltage no work for me and I have about the same hash.

10-24 firmware, well it is for everything else. I need an updated 10-24 version to include newer options and cgminer, but adjusting the vcore to the correct setting for the chosen freq does make a big difference and is especially noticeable in the S3+ units and some? S3 with DC2DC... I don't remember but you know what I mean.
The 10-24 firmware gives me overall higher, consistent hashrates  because I am able to make adjustments to the freq and voltage to find the sweetest spot for that particular unit. I keep them clean, fans running, good power, no bs. I want the firmware to be the same Smiley

What I would love to see is someone who can look at both 10-24 and 1-9 and give us a hybrid with the good stuff. If anyone needs a unit to test with let me know Smiley

legendary
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February 02, 2015, 07:03:07 PM
yes, now I put the 19/12 and has a lot less mistakes, but with the 09/01/2015 gave more hash,

the amount is insignificant compare to the the newer 1/9 firmware my s3s would show an X sometimes and reboot all by themselves randomly.
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February 02, 2015, 04:03:25 PM
I hope you are using a 20amp outlet. If its a 15a it really shouldn't be used for mining in my humble opinion.

I plugged a lamp into where I have my 2 Antminer S3+ running. Every minute or so the light flickers slightly.

Anyway to solve this? I am assuming this is inrush current with the mining cores changing clock rates or fans adjusting their speeds.



15a is fine for 2 miners running. I've got 3 on a single PSU pulling ~9A at the wall. What he needs to do is find out what else is on that breaker. If there's nothing else on the breaker then I would suspect faulty wiring or the breaker itself is going bad.
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February 02, 2015, 03:54:10 PM
yes, now I put the 19/12 and has a lot less mistakes, but with the 09/01/2015 gave more hash,
legendary
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February 02, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
but why bitmain not update the firmware of most antminer s3 +? 09/01/2015 from the many mistakes, now ask you to bitmain but your engineers manage to pull off a firmware good enough? Angry Angry

the 12/19 firmware works just fine.

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February 02, 2015, 02:34:01 PM
but why bitmain not update the firmware of most antminer s3 +? 09/01/2015 from the many mistakes, now ask you to bitmain but your engineers manage to pull off a firmware good enough? Angry Angry
sr. member
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February 02, 2015, 02:20:52 PM
I hope you are using a 20amp outlet. If its a 15a it really shouldn't be used for mining in my humble opinion.

I plugged a lamp into where I have my 2 Antminer S3+ running. Every minute or so the light flickers slightly.

Anyway to solve this? I am assuming this is inrush current with the mining cores changing clock rates or fans adjusting their speeds.


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February 02, 2015, 02:16:17 PM
hello

i was buy a second hand s3.i did something work with the network settings.(i dont write the broadcast address).thats why icant see login page on gui or cant connect via ssh.butt miner still hashing.i want to reset it but i cant  (maybe for the latest firmware).
what can i do now? how can i reset it? or is there a way to open the login page

thanks for the help
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