Topic: ANTMINER S4 2TH/s, Batch 1 on Sale this week, shipping before Sept. Ends - page 7. (Read 33454 times)
September 24, 2014, 08:49:46 PM
SP20 is not for home use unless you have electrical in your shed out back. 65 db is nothing to sneeze at.
September 24, 2014, 08:07:54 PM
so four s1 upgrade kits = .92BTC and you can get those s1s for about $80 each, used of course, which are consuming about 1400w and be close to 2Th....right? Am i missing something?
S1 upgrade kits aren't available right now. I ordered some a day ago, but looks like they are out of stock. Says "up coming".
refer to discussion above. sales suspended due to the need to squeeze BTC from consumer base.
September 24, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
so four s1 upgrade kits = .92BTC and you can get those s1s for about $80 each, used of course, which are consuming about 1400w and be close to 2Th....right? Am i missing something?
S1 upgrade kits aren't available right now. I ordered some a day ago, but looks like they are out of stock. Says "up coming".
September 24, 2014, 07:59:59 PM
It's clear that they are trying to discourage hardware ownership for the individual so that they can develop their more profitable cloud mining project. If they raise the price of the hardware they peddle it will push more people to their cloud product. Any way you cut it, its just a money move for them.. They can't be happy with taking a small profit on product development and sales, they want it all. so it is a clear case of greed in my opinion .
At the price they are charging for their cloud mining and then add the fee for "obtaining' the right to farm with them (whatever that fee they call it) , I believe it comes out even worse than if you bought the S4 now.
Has anyone calculated the ROI for their hashnest? When I ran numbers the first day they put it out, it wasn't looking good at all and was hoping the S4 would be the answer. I got my answer
alright!
September 24, 2014, 07:56:41 PM
so four s1 upgrade kits = .92BTC and you can get those for about $80 each, used of course, which are consuming about 1400w and be close to 2Th....right? Am i missing something?
wrong math: 4X0.46BTC=1.84BTC=$780 plus $320 (4X$80) for used S1 equal $1100 just for miners plus $200 for PSU(4X$50), so final is $1300, but only ~1.8Th is guaranteed vs 2th for S4. Upgraded S1 would consume ~1420 W, which would be worse than S4.
So, difference is not big, if any ($1300 for 1.8th vs 1450 for 2Th)
thanks for that, forgot about the MOQ. hell you could skim that psu cost to $20 by going with the server PSUs. I would bet that until BTC price recovers the cost of used S1s will rise.
September 24, 2014, 07:51:25 PM
so four s1 upgrade kits = .92BTC and you can get those for about $80 each, used of course, which are consuming about 1400w and be close to 2Th....right? Am i missing something?
wrong math: 4X0.46BTC=1.84BTC=$780 plus $320 (4X$80) for used S1 equals $1100 just for miners plus $200 for PSU(4X$50), so final is $1300, but only ~1.8Th is guaranteed vs 2th for S4. Upgraded S1 would consume ~1420 W, which would be worse than S4.
So, difference is not big, if any ($1300 for 1.8th vs 1450 for 2Th)
September 24, 2014, 07:44:10 PM
so four s1 upgrade kits = .92BTC and you can get those for about $80 each, used of course, which are consuming about 1400w and be close to 2Th....right? Am i missing something?
no the deal for the s-4 is silly high. I may go to the longer tube from asicminer.
September 24, 2014, 07:40:54 PM
so four s1 upgrade kits = .92BTC and you can get those s1s for about $80 each, used of course, which are consuming about 1400w and be close to 2Th....right? Am i missing something?
September 24, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
yeah but the price is so high buying an inhand s-3 on ebay is cheaper. I have a 10 percent ebay coupon and I get an extra 3 percent on top of that.
I can buy 4 s-3s for 1200 - 13 percent = 1044 and that gives me 2th or 1.9 th . I have the psu's it should not e possible to buy s-3s on ebay and beat the price for an
s-4. factory direct from bitmaintech. While I am a bit boozed up tonight I will post the details of this.
10 percent
1 percent
so that is 11 percent and using my ebay cc is 2 percent a total of a 13 percent discount.
this listing offers 1 for 325 or best offer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIMTMAIN-ANTMINER-S3-440gh-s-BATCH-9-IN-Hand-Ships-Now-/151419551349?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item23414efe75
I put in an offer of 290 he came back with 320 that is 2th for 1280 then take off my 13% and I am at 1113 with ebay warranties .. now I have the psu's but we are talking an in hand fully covered by ebay warranty shipment for 1113 vs
a week or more wait for a not covered shipment for 1450 same th… and 337 usd more
and the better deal is ebay.
this is a bad offer from bitmaintech.
the only way I am wrong is the s-4 is under 950 watts. as 4 s-3's are 1400 watts. and even if the watts are 900 vs 1400 at 10 cents a watt you pay 1.20 a day more to run the s-3's .
so it takes more then 280 days to make up the difference in pricing.
I want an s-4 most likely I am going to order a few s-3's on ebay and use my coupon.
September 24, 2014, 07:24:18 PM
The sad part is some will pay that much seen it to much in my life to the point its become a joke, they think it's a good price then a week later the price drops or some one make some thing better for less or some one made some thing all most as good and dropped there price even lower then all you see for may be three weeks is how they got screwed etc ..GO figure .
The opposite could also happen: bitcoin goes to $700 and they RISE the price to $2000.
yeah but the price is so high buying an inhand s-3 on ebay is cheaper. I have a 10 percent ebay coupon and I get an extra 3 percent on top of that.
I can buy 4 s-3s for 1200 - 13 percent = 1044 and that gives me 2th or 1.9 th . I have the psu's it should not e possible to buy s-3s on ebay and beat the price for an
s-4. factory direct from bitmaintech. While I am a bit boozed up tonight I will post the details of this.
10 percent
1 percent
September 24, 2014, 07:10:39 PM
3.4BTC, I just shit myself...
Remove the fancy box and display and sell them at 2 BTC.. WTF...
Remove the fancy box and display and sell them at 2 BTC.. WTF...
September 24, 2014, 05:40:36 PM
The sad part is some will pay that much seen it to much in my life to the point its become a joke, they think it's a good price then a week later the price drops or some one make some thing better for less or some one made some thing all most as good and dropped there price even lower then all you see for may be three weeks is how they got screwed etc ..GO figure .
The opposite could also happen: bitcoin goes to $700 and they RISE the price to $2000.
sad part to some stuff won't and will still be cheaper.
my way around that wait.
. September 24, 2014, 05:38:29 PM
The sad part is some will pay that much seen it to much in my life to the point its become a joke, they think it's a good price then a week later the price drops or some one make some thing better for less or some one made some thing all most as good and dropped there price even lower then all you see for may be three weeks is how they got screwed etc ..GO figure .
The opposite could also happen: bitcoin goes to $700 and they RISE the price to $2000.
September 24, 2014, 05:37:18 PM
No coupons for the 6 antminer S3s I just bought to get out of my S1s. 3.4 BTCs is kick to my digital nuts. No go in my book. Anyone honestly thinking about buying at that price?
September 24, 2014, 05:33:45 PM
The sad part is some will pay that much seen it to much in my life to the point its become a joke, they think it's a good price then a week later the price drops or some one make some thing better for less or some one made some thing all most as good and dropped there price even lower then all you see for may be three weeks is how they got screwed etc ..GO figure .
I won't even comment why they think its a good price this post alone is gonna get me in hot water with some .
I won't even comment why they think its a good price this post alone is gonna get me in hot water with some .
September 24, 2014, 05:31:11 PM
they don't seem like the kind of people to joke about the price. Call me when it goes down to $1000 I'll consider it.
September 24, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
Bitmain wouldn't sell the S4 at $1450 if BTC value was much higher. It'd still be much higher than it's competitors are charging, and history proves this.
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For comparison only 1 competitor:
SpondooliesTech SP20 price and shipping cost. $1,190.00+$160 (EU) +$119 (US) second half of October and no PSU only 1,7TH/s
Which one is cheaper?
You're looking at the wrong competitor. Spondoolies has been overpriced from the jump.
Here's the right one:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-asicminer-prisma-14ths-147-btc-795477
Now put the numbers together....
Neither will ROI, and spondoolies are loud as 100 lawn mowers so most people cant use it.
SP20 is specifically designed for home use, and Spondoolies-Tech tell us that they will be much quieter.
On a different note, it is strange that the banner ad says the S4 will be a 3U unit. I would have thought they would have stayed with the 4U chassis of the S2 to save design and manufacturing costs. Basically make the S4 identical to the S2 except with 28nm cards in the slots.
September 24, 2014, 05:23:55 PM
Does anybody have indication of
"cannot identify passport.bitmain.com" when trying to login.
it says "the certificate of the website is invalid. you might be connecting to a website that is pretending to be "passport.bitmain.com"
"cannot identify passport.bitmain.com" when trying to login.
it says "the certificate of the website is invalid. you might be connecting to a website that is pretending to be "passport.bitmain.com"
I just tried the "Advanced" "Go there anyway" and was still unable to log in with my existing Bitmain account. The website is obviously down due to the rush for everybody to get in on the S4 B1 ordering.
last I checked they were not yet taking orders . at this price not positive they will see a rush of orders, other then fools.
Seriously though it might have been a test to see the reaction.... I doubt it though
September 24, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
Does anybody have indication of
"cannot identify passport.bitmain.com" when trying to login.
it says "the certificate of the website is invalid. you might be connecting to a website that is pretending to be "passport.bitmain.com"
"cannot identify passport.bitmain.com" when trying to login.
it says "the certificate of the website is invalid. you might be connecting to a website that is pretending to be "passport.bitmain.com"
I just tried the "Advanced" "Go there anyway" and was still unable to log in with my existing Bitmain account. The website is obviously down due to the rush for everybody to get in on the S4 B1 ordering.
last I checked they were not yet taking orders . at this price not positive they will see a rush of orders, other then fools.
September 24, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Does anybody have indication of
"cannot identify passport.bitmain.com" when trying to login.
it says "the certificate of the website is invalid. you might be connecting to a website that is pretending to be "passport.bitmain.com"
"cannot identify passport.bitmain.com" when trying to login.
it says "the certificate of the website is invalid. you might be connecting to a website that is pretending to be "passport.bitmain.com"
I just tried the "Advanced" "Go there anyway" and was still unable to log in with my existing Bitmain account. The website is obviously down due to the rush for everybody to get in on the S4 B1 ordering.
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