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Topic: AntMiner S4+ available for global sales on April 20th, shipping within one week - page 2. (Read 5899 times)

hero member
Activity: 676
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This is a no brainer... This is what the s4 should have been...

To release this now with old chips, Shame on u bitmain.. Seems like u have excess stock in your warehouse of maybe C1's and ur trying to get rid of the chips in bulk..

To high a price with S5's in circulation, To high Wattage, To much noise.

I was looking forward to an S4+ using the newer S5 chip at least at 1500w at least that would have pushed it over the 3th mark..

Bad rushed decisions... Come on bitmain, U were the best at this & now your slowly starting to run downhill at a very quick pace & u still havent fixed the voltage settings on the S4

Heres a tip for the S4 in the Freq table take out all the over clock settings & lock them down but leave the underclock settings..

Then in the voltage settings put a drop down box with the underclock voltage settings with suggested freq settings so that people cant blow these things up.. But can downclock them.

Then also put a box allowing the  --bitmain-homemode or normal mode so that can be run a little quieter.

END OF LINE

Sometimes for the miner, the best strategy is to run the miners that already in hands and not to buy any new miners. Only buy the miners that is best for you. For a home miner the electricity cost is high and noise is a pain, so we should buy the high efficiency mining rigs. But for large scale miners, the cost of electricity maybe low and noise level is not a concern, they may have better tolerence with the old chips and not so sexy power efficiency. 

Was the above meant for me?? The S4+ is no good for no one...

Why use old chips when new one are available that are faster & more efficient??

Leftover old stock by the sounds & if this is the case they should have sold all of them before releasing new ones.. This is bad business practice that smacks of greed!
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
This is a no brainer... This is what the s4 should have been...

To release this now with old chips, Shame on u bitmain.. Seems like u have excess stock in your warehouse of maybe C1's and ur trying to get rid of the chips in bulk..

To high a price with S5's in circulation, To high Wattage, To much noise.

I was looking forward to an S4+ using the newer S5 chip at least at 1500w at least that would have pushed it over the 3th mark..

Bad rushed decisions... Come on bitmain, U were the best at this & now your slowly starting to run downhill at a very quick pace & u still havent fixed the voltage settings on the S4

Heres a tip for the S4 in the Freq table take out all the over clock settings & lock them down but leave the underclock settings..

Then in the voltage settings put a drop down box with the underclock voltage settings with suggested freq settings so that people cant blow these things up.. But can downclock them.

Then also put a box allowing the  --bitmain-homemode or normal mode so that can be run a little quieter.

END OF LINE

Sometimes for the miner, the best strategy is to run the miners that already in hands and not to buy any new miners. Only buy the miners that is best for you. For a home miner the electricity cost is high and noise is a pain, so we should buy the high efficiency mining rigs. But for large scale miners, the cost of electricity maybe low and noise level is not a concern, they may have better tolerence with the old chips and not so sexy power efficiency. 
hero member
Activity: 676
Merit: 501
This is a no brainer... This is what the s4 should have been...

To release this now with old chips, Shame on u bitmain.. Seems like u have excess stock in your warehouse of maybe C1's and ur trying to get rid of the chips in bulk..

To high a price with S5's in circulation, To high Wattage, To much noise.

I was looking forward to an S4+ using the newer S5 chip at least at 1500w at least that would have pushed it over the 3th mark..

Bad rushed decisions... Come on bitmain, U were the best at this & now your slowly starting to run downhill at a very quick pace & u still havent fixed the voltage settings on the S4

Heres a tip for the S4 in the Freq table take out all the over clock settings & lock them down but leave the underclock settings..

Then in the voltage settings put a drop down box with the underclock voltage settings with suggested freq settings so that people cant blow these things up.. But can downclock them.

Then also put a box allowing the  --bitmain-homemode or normal mode so that can be run a little quieter.

END OF LINE
hero member
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Merit: 500
@bitmain

Can you tell me about the Capacitors on this?Huh  I am looking at cheating and moving your product to a full immersion mineral oil bath.

The only issues I've ever had with Mineral oil cooling is when cheap Capacitors are used, and they plastic swells and bursts from the mineral oil.

I'll have some 6K pictures either today or tomorrow of internals.

Thank you!

About 1/3rd of the pictures are processed No caps anywhere on the hashing board and none that I could see on the controller either. Cables on the non PCI-E version of the PSU are very long so this should be good to dunk.

Only just got my unit started on the testing rack so a full review will be some time, but surprised with the noise. I thought the 40mm PSU fan was going to be an issue but its inaudible over the main fans. That means noise levels appear identical to the S4 above 25C, and slightly louder above as it runs hotter.

No Fans no noise..... Smiley
legendary
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And just think, after Thursday you can stop complaining about those "noisy SP20's", since the new S4+ will completely drown them out!  Wink

I've got an S4+ sitting next to an S4, identical fans and identical noise. The PSU fan isn't a factor. So the S4+ is loud but its nothing we haven't experienced before.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000

Thanks Smiley That's in my detached garage at home, which only has 60A to work with. What's in that picture is taking it all up, so I still have a lot of hardware in the house that needs to be moved out there once my dedicated 200A electrical entrance is installed hopefully in the next 2 weeks or so. Hardware not pictured: 2X Neptunes, a Titan, a 90MH A2 Terminator, 2x S4 and as of Thursday 2x S4+.

I didn't see it as insulting at all, it would be the most logical thing to do really... I just like complicating my life for nothing, so I reversed the fans in the S4s and the Alcheminer to suit my "needs".

And just think, after Thursday you can stop complaining about those "noisy SP20's", since the new S4+ will completely drown them out!  Wink

I am glad I don't get your electric bill each month. What's your electricity cost if you don't mind the inquiry?

Heh, I run the SP20s at 100% fan and don't hear them thanks to the 2880w PSUs. they're pretty much all I hear, in fact. Doubt the S4+ will be louder than they are!

I pay about 7c/kWh USD. In Canadian funny money, that's $0.086.
alh
legendary
Activity: 1846
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Thanks Smiley That's in my detached garage at home, which only has 60A to work with. What's in that picture is taking it all up, so I still have a lot of hardware in the house that needs to be moved out there once my dedicated 200A electrical entrance is installed hopefully in the next 2 weeks or so. Hardware not pictured: 2X Neptunes, a Titan, a 90MH A2 Terminator, 2x S4 and as of Thursday 2x S4+.

I didn't see it as insulting at all, it would be the most logical thing to do really... I just like complicating my life for nothing, so I reversed the fans in the S4s and the Alcheminer to suit my "needs".

And just think, after Thursday you can stop complaining about those "noisy SP20's", since the new S4+ will completely drown them out!  Wink

I am glad I don't get your electric bill each month. What's your electricity cost if you don't mind the inquiry?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.

I was hoping it wouldn't void the warranty since it's such a minor thing. Bitmain had us switching PSUs and fans constantly with the S4, even hash board occasionally. Surely just reversing the fans should be allowable without voiding the warranty?

I could be missing something but why not just turn entire unit around, instead of reversing fans?

He needs the power plug  to be in a certain position.  I am assuming that all other power plugs on all his gear  are the  outake side.

In my case it's mostly about having airflow where it needs to go while still having access to the front of the units. This pic will give you an idea with some of the rigs:
(Saving space)
Wouldn't want all that hot air stagnating in back of them, exhaust needs to come out of the front where it's then extracted via a large fan to the exterior.

I really like your setup.  After rereading my suggestion I just want to say I did not mean as an insult.   It possibly could have been taken badly.  I was meant as a suggestion not insult.

Thanks Smiley That's in my detached garage at home, which only has 60A to work with. What's in that picture is taking it all up, so I still have a lot of hardware in the house that needs to be moved out there once my dedicated 200A electrical entrance is installed hopefully in the next 2 weeks or so. Hardware not pictured: 2X Neptunes, a Titan, a 90MH A2 Terminator, 2x S4 and as of Thursday 2x S4+.

I didn't see it as insulting at all, it would be the most logical thing to do really... I just like complicating my life for nothing, so I reversed the fans in the S4s and the Alcheminer to suit my "needs".
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.

I was hoping it wouldn't void the warranty since it's such a minor thing. Bitmain had us switching PSUs and fans constantly with the S4, even hash board occasionally. Surely just reversing the fans should be allowable without voiding the warranty?

I could be missing something but why not just turn entire unit around, instead of reversing fans?

He needs the power plug  to be in a certain position.  I am assuming that all other power plugs on all his gear  are the  outake side.

In my case it's mostly about having airflow where it needs to go while still having access to the front of the units. This pic will give you an idea with some of the rigs:
(Saving space)
Wouldn't want all that hot air stagnating in back of them, exhaust needs to come out of the front where it's then extracted via a large fan to the exterior.

I really like your setup.  After rereading my suggestion I just want to say I did not mean as an insult.   It possibly could have been taken badly.  I was meant as a suggestion not insult.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.

I was hoping it wouldn't void the warranty since it's such a minor thing. Bitmain had us switching PSUs and fans constantly with the S4, even hash board occasionally. Surely just reversing the fans should be allowable without voiding the warranty?

I could be missing something but why not just turn entire unit around, instead of reversing fans?

He needs the power plug  to be in a certain position.  I am assuming that all other power plugs on all his gear  are the  outake side.

In my case it's mostly about having airflow where it needs to go while still having access to the front of the units. This pic will give you an idea with some of the rigs:



Wouldn't want all that hot air stagnating in back of them, exhaust needs to come out of the front where it's then extracted via a large fan to the exterior.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.

I was hoping it wouldn't void the warranty since it's such a minor thing. Bitmain had us switching PSUs and fans constantly with the S4, even hash board occasionally. Surely just reversing the fans should be allowable without voiding the warranty?

I could be missing something but why not just turn entire unit around, instead of reversing fans?

Yeah, that's the more logical thing to do. With the S4s I reversed the fans so I could still see the LCD screen, but there's no screen this time around.
legendary
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Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.

I was hoping it wouldn't void the warranty since it's such a minor thing. Bitmain had us switching PSUs and fans constantly with the S4, even hash board occasionally. Surely just reversing the fans should be allowable without voiding the warranty?

I could be missing something but why not just turn entire unit around, instead of reversing fans?

He needs the power plug  to be in a certain position.  I am assuming that all other power plugs on all his gear  are the  outake side.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.

I was hoping it wouldn't void the warranty since it's such a minor thing. Bitmain had us switching PSUs and fans constantly with the S4, even hash board occasionally. Surely just reversing the fans should be allowable without voiding the warranty?

I could be missing something but why not just turn entire unit around, instead of reversing fans?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.

I was hoping it wouldn't void the warranty since it's such a minor thing. Bitmain had us switching PSUs and fans constantly with the S4, even hash board occasionally. Surely just reversing the fans should be allowable without voiding the warranty?
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
Air intake is from the front (PSU/Ethernet port side)  THere are 4 fan connectors on the control PCB!  Wink

Always the policy is any modification of the unit will void the warranty...

side note, reversing the fans should not do any damage.  2 fans to intake and 2 fans to suck them out of the box.

Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
Bitmain,

I assume air intake is on the front of the unit, where you plug the PSU? Is it OK to reverse the airflow by switching all 4 fans around? I need the front to be the exhaust side.
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
1 thing for this S4+ is, it is a new PSU different from the previous S4 version.  It is stable on 208v.

if you like the rack mount system, you will definitely like this unit. 

Also, not like S4, this unit does not require human interaction with the switch on the back during the power cycle.  When the power comes on, it will boots right up!

Just had a negative growth and it may be another negative growth in about 12 days YAY!!!

hero member
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I like conspiracy theories but not when it messes with your financial choices.  It's not hard to believe the push for new miner specs to only be run from a farm setting.  With the added cost of shipping makes it real good for Bitmain to have your miner with them.  Just thinking out loud.  I for one don't support large farms.  Capitalism at it's best!
legendary
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@bitmain

Can you tell me about the Capacitors on this?Huh  I am looking at cheating and moving your product to a full immersion mineral oil bath.

The only issues I've ever had with Mineral oil cooling is when cheap Capacitors are used, and they plastic swells and bursts from the mineral oil.

I'll have some 6K pictures either today or tomorrow of internals.

Thank you!

About 1/3rd of the pictures are processed No caps anywhere on the hashing board and none that I could see on the controller either. Cables on the non PCI-E version of the PSU are very long so this should be good to dunk.

Only just got my unit started on the testing rack so a full review will be some time, but surprised with the noise. I thought the 40mm PSU fan was going to be an issue but its inaudible over the main fans. That means noise levels appear identical to the S4 above 25C, and slightly louder above as it runs hotter.
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Not sure how to feel about this one.
No LCD, no beepers, not North American home friendly, grossly overpriced.
Definitely not going to make friends on this one but yet again, no 3U miner is good for home mining to begin with.
Mainly because people do no properly ventilate nor cool them which is what makes them loud as hell.
Those things in the winter are as silent as a purring kitty or a cool S3.
I have one S4 and it is not running full blast, it's properly ventilated.

Looks more like a data-center ready unit...
Yay for them but with the price of Bitcoin the way it is, not such a wise investment.
Oh well, like in anything, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
Now I regret selling my S3's... those things are marvelous.
I also regret not buying more C1's.

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