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Topic: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH - page 198. (Read 528055 times)

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post your temps ?

i find that it works best @ 60 deg C

Mine generally ran at 48 to 54 C. So it's been easier to keep it at lower temps than the S5s.
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Batch 5 Shipped

Order Date 2015-11-04

My batch 5 - ordered 03/11 shipped 18/11 ...so this time is Bitmain better then promised
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Batch 5 Shipped

Order Date 2015-11-04
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Batch 5 shipping notification.  So far UPS just says "A UPS shipping label has been created. Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status--including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated."
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post your temps ?

i find that it works best @ 60 deg C
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Now, I think the controller is bricked. All the LEDs on the front are now off. The blue and green lights inside the controller are solid ( ie: not blinking). I can't see it in my browser anymore. I can't reset it to default with the reset button.

So after 7 weeks and a few days of perfect functionality, my S7 is not working after an overnight internet outage of about 3 hrs.
 ( Note: there was an internet outage of about 30 mins a month ago. It didn't affect my S7 then. So, it seems if there's a longer internet outage, it messes up the controller or its memory.)

was it on 9/15 system or updated to 10/23 system? Manual or automatic fan?
i have a feeling that internet loss bug affects both, not just 9/15.

It was on 10/23 firmware and automatic fan.

Thanks for the info.  So, my going manual now should do it.  Sorry to hear about your rig and the delays you will have to contend with.  I hope it gets worked out for you soon.

Thx. If they don't replace it under warranty in a timely fashion, I will not be buying another S7. Up til this incident happened, I was ready to grab one soon.

Bitmain replaced my faulty boards fairly quickly, within a day of receiving the boards. Make sure to send pictures to expedite the process.
Thx- my heart rate just went down to normal. Smiley
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Anyone know if BITMAIN will jave black friday offers?did they have any last years?
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Is OregonMines a reputable hosting/colocation facility?  Has anyone done business with Matt Carson, VP Sales at OregonMines?

I need hosting/colocation for my S7s.
How many do you have?

Thank you everyone for references!  I found a local colocator and signed with them today.  Again Thanks!
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Is OregonMines a reputable hosting/colocation facility?  Has anyone done business with Matt Carson, VP Sales at OregonMines?

I need hosting/colocation for my S7s.
How many do you have?
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Is OregonMines a reputable hosting/colocation facility?  Has anyone done business with Matt Carson, VP Sales at OregonMines?

I need hosting/colocation for my S7s.

I guess I'm the odd man out here, but I've been hosting an SP20 there since March with no problems whatsoever.

I can't remember.  Isn't that the company that helped pull off the Black Arrow scam (used to be minersource), or am I thinking of someone else?

I think the issue is that someone who was linked to that scam now works for them. I'm just sharing my experience, and I've only dealt with the owner and the guy that runs the data center, not Matt Carson.

I don't recall Oregon Mines itself ever being involved in any scam, and they haven't scammed me. Quite the contrary, my SP20 chugs along, and I just have to pay my monthly invoice.
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Is OregonMines a reputable hosting/colocation facility?  Has anyone done business with Matt Carson, VP Sales at OregonMines?

I need hosting/colocation for my S7s.

I guess I'm the odd man out here, but I've been hosting an SP20 there since March with no problems whatsoever.

I can't remember.  Isn't that the company that helped pull off the Black Arrow scam (used to be minersource), or am I thinking of someone else?

Edit:  Oh yes.  Matt Carson, aka bobsag3.  His old scammer profile is borito4.  Maybe he has decided to go legit...
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Is OregonMines a reputable hosting/colocation facility?  Has anyone done business with Matt Carson, VP Sales at OregonMines?

I need hosting/colocation for my S7s.

I guess I'm the odd man out here, but I've been hosting an SP20 there since March with no problems whatsoever.
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Now, I think the controller is bricked. All the LEDs on the front are now off. The blue and green lights inside the controller are solid ( ie: not blinking). I can't see it in my browser anymore. I can't reset it to default with the reset button.

So after 7 weeks and a few days of perfect functionality, my S7 is not working after an overnight internet outage of about 3 hrs.
 ( Note: there was an internet outage of about 30 mins a month ago. It didn't affect my S7 then. So, it seems if there's a longer internet outage, it messes up the controller or its memory.)

was it on 9/15 system or updated to 10/23 system? Manual or automatic fan?
i have a feeling that internet loss bug affects both, not just 9/15.

It was on 10/23 firmware and automatic fan.

Thanks for the info.  So, my going manual now should do it.  Sorry to hear about your rig and the delays you will have to contend with.  I hope it gets worked out for you soon.

Thx. If they don't replace it under warranty in a timely fashion, I will not be buying another S7. Up til this incident happened, I was ready to grab one soon.

Bitmain replaced my faulty boards fairly quickly, within a day of receiving the boards. Make sure to send pictures to expedite the process.
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Now, I think the controller is bricked. All the LEDs on the front are now off. The blue and green lights inside the controller are solid ( ie: not blinking). I can't see it in my browser anymore. I can't reset it to default with the reset button.

So after 7 weeks and a few days of perfect functionality, my S7 is not working after an overnight internet outage of about 3 hrs.
 ( Note: there was an internet outage of about 30 mins a month ago. It didn't affect my S7 then. So, it seems if there's a longer internet outage, it messes up the controller or its memory.)

was it on 9/15 system or updated to 10/23 system? Manual or automatic fan?
i have a feeling that internet loss bug affects both, not just 9/15.

It was on 10/23 firmware and automatic fan.

Thanks for the info.  So, my going manual now should do it.  Sorry to hear about your rig and the delays you will have to contend with.  I hope it gets worked out for you soon.

Thx. If they don't replace it under warranty in a timely fashion, I will not be buying another S7. Up til this incident happened, I was ready to grab one soon.

thanks for the info too...sorry to hear it
a major bummer
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Now, I think the controller is bricked. All the LEDs on the front are now off. The blue and green lights inside the controller are solid ( ie: not blinking). I can't see it in my browser anymore. I can't reset it to default with the reset button.

So after 7 weeks and a few days of perfect functionality, my S7 is not working after an overnight internet outage of about 3 hrs.
 ( Note: there was an internet outage of about 30 mins a month ago. It didn't affect my S7 then. So, it seems if there's a longer internet outage, it messes up the controller or its memory.)

was it on 9/15 system or updated to 10/23 system? Manual or automatic fan?
i have a feeling that internet loss bug affects both, not just 9/15.

It was on 10/23 firmware and automatic fan.

Thanks for the info.  So, my going manual now should do it.  Sorry to hear about your rig and the delays you will have to contend with.  I hope it gets worked out for you soon.

Thx. If they don't replace it under warranty in a timely fashion, I will not be buying another S7. Up til this incident happened, I was ready to grab one soon.
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I think you need to take the most recent specs with a "grain of salt". They say the miner has 135 chips, which yields 45 chips on each of the 3 boards. Yet, you go and count the spots on the picture, and there are very clearly 54 ASICs shown. Those are the original boards for a 162-chip miner (i.e. Batch #1 etc.).

I think the reality gets a bit jumbled up with the various "cut and paste" actions to keep the website mostly close. I expect the website guys have every bit as much difficulty trying to keep stuff straight as we do.

Rich addressed this in an earlier post, which see:

Thanks for your input, Rich.  It's much appreciated!!!


Assuming there is a Batch #8, I wonder if it will be a 135 chip miner (ala Batch #6), or a 162 chip version (ala Batch 1-5 & 7). It seems odd that they would go to the trouble of making new boards for Batch 6, and only do that one batch. Would it be possible to take a 54-chip board (i.e. the 162-chip miner) and stuff in 3 dummy non-hashing chips into each string to make a 45-chip Batch #6 board? That would eliminate the board re-design.

It's really going to take a score-card to keep all the flavours of S7 and their various attributes straight. Should make for a crazy resale market in the future.

Yes would love to be fly on the wall at Bitmain and hear the discussion behind all these variants? They could probably depopulate a 54 Chip bard & make a 45 Chip. I think in practice you would just miss out 3 chip tripples from the most convenient point in the middle of the chain and link across the data signals and power.



There is actually a very convenient point to do this. Red shows the path up the tripple node string starting in the top left corner. Blue shows where you could conveniently link across bypassing 3 nodes / 9 chips. That said I had assumed they would rev the board?


Rich
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I think you need to take the most recent specs with a "grain of salt". They say the miner has 135 chips, which yields 45 chips on each of the 3 boards. Yet, you go and count the spots on the picture, and there are very clearly 54 ASICs shown. Those are the original boards for a 162-chip miner (i.e. Batch #1 etc.).

I think the reality gets a bit jumbled up with the various "cut and paste" actions to keep the website mostly close. I expect the website guys have every bit as much difficulty trying to keep stuff straight as we do.
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Batch 8 is again with a little bit less power. How comes that batch 7 was 5.06 TH/s fast ? Is it possible, that the next patch would be more than that ?
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I dont understand why they are changing it so much ? Are they keeping the good chips for them selves and then just selling off all the poorly binned chips to us ?

Why not just have made it a 4TH machine from the start and not have it so highly strung. Users can OC just like before.

I doubt that very seriously.  It's possible [after assembly] they keep rigs that meet certain parameters.  If I owned BITMAIN, I would keep rigs that met certain parameters as well.  Wouldn't you?  Does this mean all the rest are trash?  No...

I prefer the batches with more strings that results in better power efficiency rather than the 4.0 TH rig with fewer strings and less power efficiency.  I know it says batch 6 is the same .25 watts per GH/s.  However, I have to see it to believe it.

Problem is we are in uncharted territory. S3 had a small frequency cut back on the first release, then we saw the S3+. S5 there was only one default frequency throughout. Now here we are about 10 Weeks into the S7 and we have over 8 Batches seen 6 variants and 2 different chip counts.

We are given no information as to why so all we can do is try and guess what is going on. There are only the original low res pictures and because of the warranty implications noone will take the covers off. I have seen mention of at least 3 board revisions but we cannot see if they are just cosmetic or have real changes?

Best guess has to be that there is significant variance in the way the BM1385 chip performs. It appears that this variance was only discovered when volume production started and the solution to the variance has been to produce batches with different default frequencies and latterly different chip counts to bring a voltage variable into play.

Which batch is "best" is difficult to answer, and most people will not in practice have made that choice, but will have just bought what was available when they decided to pull the trigger.

My generality would be that the higher the default frequency and the lower the core voltage the better the chip / system. So for the 162 chip system that would be Batch 7 at 625MHz and for the 135 chip system that would be Batch 8 at 700MHz. Perhaps it is no surprise that these are the latest two Batches?

However the fact that the latest two batches are the "best" in itself just raises a further question. Are they the best because Bitmain have just got together enough "good" chips to do this or have changes been made to the BM1384 chip itself?

So what about choosing between batch 7 & 8?

The core voltage in Batch 7 is 0.667V and at 625MHz this is the closest we have seen so far to the Data Sheet spec of 650MHz for that core voltage.  Smiley

Batch 8 is 700MHz but has a high core voltage of 0.8V because of the reduced chip count. This voltage is off the chart in the BM1385 Data sheet which indicates that 775MHz ought to be possible with only 0.71V on the Core.

So I think that batch 7 has the best chips and batch 8 although sounding impressive actually has a lower grade, but better than it's predecessor  Batch 6. On top of that I think they have been frugal with the truth on the efficiency of the 135 chip system. Headline is still 0.25J/GH. However on paper it calculates to 0.274J/GH, factor in their + 10% on Power and that becomes 0.301J/GH.

I think in practice with that Core Voltage it may even be worse than this and will be at least be something that can be measured without taking the lid off.  Smiley

So the above just my opinion & conclusions. I have no more real information than anyone else and do not even possess an S7.... As to what is actually going on or what flavour Tomorrows batch will be then your guess is as good as mine?

Rich
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