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Topic: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH - page 202. (Read 527809 times)

legendary
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At almost 1300 watts I think I'm done chasing the mining train. I may have mentioned it before, but most home outlets let you pull about 1200-1300 watts for the entire room (circuit). That means you're asking your ancient home wiring to pull 100% for 24/7 mining. Fires are a real possibility once you get in this range. Imagine all the 17 yr old kids that have a few BTC, order a S7, and plug it into their mom's basement unknowingly overloading the circuit like a Christmas tree with too many lights. Spark, spark, and two huge fans to kick the flame up. Now you're looking at a home burning down and possible lawsuits, though with BM being in China a successful suit is unlikely.

If you are talking about circuits inside U.S. homes, 15 amps x 120 volts = 1,800 watts.  A 1300 watt rig would consume 72.2% of an 1800 watt/15 amp circuit.  That's approximately 3% under the 75% recommendation by the NEC for a 15 amp circuit with 14 AWG wiring.  

If they have other devices (lamp, clock, etc...) plugged into other outlets on the same circuit, there will not be as much heat as you might think at that one outlet the PSU(s) is plugged into when powering one S7.  Most of the heat would be at the breaker in the Main Service Panel (MSP) while the current is distributed to multiple outlets for that circuit.  It is the circuit breaker that would be at fault of any potential fire [For not tripping].  You are mistaken if you think the PSU(s) and rig would catch on fire for pulling only 72% of the available current for that circuit.

Even if the circuit is a "loop" circuit instead of a "branched" circuit [with the rig being the first device in the loop] there could potentially be quite a bit of heat at the outlet the rig is plugged into.  Yes, in that case, there would be a lot of heat at the breaker and the wire leading up to the first outlet in the circuit.  Then less and less heat for each outlet after the first in the loop, providing the rig was plugged in the first outlet in the loop closest to the breaker.  Is this the fault of the rig?  No...  It's the fault of the owner if old defective wire catches fire.  It could potentially be the fault of the manufacturer of the breaker under certain circumstances.

As the customer plugs in and turns on more devices at different outlets on the same circuit, the circuit breaker should trip once 15 or more amps flowed on that circuit.  If it does not trip and a fire is created, it will not be at the outlet where the rigs are located.  It would be in the MSP where the defective breaker is located.  This is assuming the wire gauge in the home is 14 AWG.  If the wiring is old in the home, that's the home owner's fault for running devices on defective wiring.  It's not the manufacturer of the device fault.

It is my opinion that one should proceed with caution when mining with multiple S7's.  In that case [Multiple S7's] one should consider creating a space with circuits dedicated just for the rigs; preferably with a 240 Volt circuit(s) and PDU's or whips.
legendary
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
Ouch... Angry Bitmain really should change some policies. I ordered several batch 6's at $1625 each. And now batch 7 w/ 5th shipping the same time mine are, arg.

If they were going out a month after or even two weeks i'd understand more. Not much I can do but vent a little.


well I mean...batch 7 is still overpriced.  Funny how its priced in btc though....maybe if btc goes up to 500 and its still 5.05btc you wont feel that bad?

I believe that's the reason it is priced in BTC.  BITMAIN, believes the price of BTC will go up instead of down.  Hence, pricing it in BTC like they did with the S1 when the price of BTC was high.

fr4nkthetank - 500 at 5.05 would make me feel a liiiitle better lol. I do believe time is running thin for cheap btc. Once the halving media drums begin beating it should be a steady rise. Although... margin trading I think is detrimental to organic pricing with manufactured price swings on the books. I guess we'll see how the market behaves to buying pressure vis a vis whale shenanigans.

dmwardjr - Agreed, I think through sales and other metrics they can gauge the interest level and potential for BTCs price in our near future. I'd take the new batch 7 pricing as a monetary strategy based on Bitmain's projected earnings.



I think all conditions are green for a huge pump.  There has been massive accumulation of btc in my opinion (look at low to moderate volume periods, with what seems like a price floor).  The halving in itself means nothing, except for less selling pressure AFTER it happens, but it is a good excuse/reason to pump and entice massive buying once the price skyrockets.  Financial types have been buying too as were reported in many articles on mainstream media, and they are out for one thing - profit.  they dont care about nothing but profit.  So dont sell and hold on tight we are heading for a wild ride.  But dont kid yourself, it will crash down like Iggy Azalea's career.  have fun.  


└(°ᴥ°)┘     nothing to do with btc but how did you draw this?


batch 8 is open!


https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201511170341298180m44675v0613

4.73btc for a 4730 gh machine? uses 1293 watts


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sr. member
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"For sure my wife would not let me keep the S7 with that annoying loud howling sound so I had to come up with a solution."

Unless you go watercooled the S7 is not a good idea for home miners, imo. Seriously, what are you guys thinking with your homemade tubes and extensions, they are a serious fire hazard. Let alone the noise pollution.

The extreme heat these monsters are releasing have marked a red line for me. The chance something is burning or melting, as demonstrated with pictures in other threads, is warning sign enough that home mining has reached a limit. And 1200 watt PSUs, do they even last for more than a year 24/7? They are also damn expensive.

Designwise, I don't like the entire single heatsinks on the back of the S7- many have reported them to be falling off. Back in the days of gpu mining you were better off with an AMD 5870 than 5970 too. It was just too much of a hassle to get them cooled and running smoothly. The 5970s often died prematurely, no wonder.

Until something has improved, the S5s are probably as high as I will go until the (final) end of home mining in August 2016.

I'm probably in the same boat. I find it hard to realize people are running these in a home. The noise alone would prohibit to run S7's in an apartment/condo at least in my state (NJ). I'd have my neighbors banging on the door at 10pm. Even after replacing my jet blasters (original S5 fans) with quieter fans I still hear that hummmmmmm throughout my house, regardless of which room I'm in. I do live in ranch style house, which is not a good scenario since internal walls do not have insulation. I did insulate with noise dampening insulation on the cheap. All my S5's are in one room with a single window air conditioner. Even when it is almost 50 degrees out (at night) and 60 degrees (in day) the S5 temps will increase to over 60-62, which I don't like to do. I do admit, if the jet blasters were installed I wouldn't need worry at all. I have to give congrats to the new guys who are running these S7's in their homes. I would imagine some really creative options with trying to suppress the noise. Eventually when temps go down to 40F and below consistently I won't need to bother with the temps at all until the spring, by which time home mining for me will be over. Kind of perfect timing really. I did always want to get some 4-5 inch air duct hose and expel all the heat right out the window, but could never figure out how to build it. Don't want to invest another $1 into that setup, so all choices of changing stuff around is not in the cards.

Good luck.






At almost 1300 watts I think I'm done chasing the mining train. I may have mentioned it before, but most home outlets let you pull about 1200-1300 watts for the entire room (circuit). That means you're asking your ancient home wiring to pull 100% for 24/7 mining. Fires are a real possibility once you get in this range. Imagine all the 17 yr old kids that have a few BTC, order a S7, and plug it into their mom's basement unknowingly overloading the circuit like a Christmas tree with too many lights. Spark, spark, and two huge fans to kick the flame up. Now you're looking at a home burning down and possible lawsuits, though with BM being in China a successful suit is unlikely.
legendary
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There are most likely no real batches-there are two machines with 135 and 154 chips respectfully, which engineers/marketing sliced and diced into "batches" based on individual machine variability.

if this is the case,, they need to send me my   sh**t  Smiley


they already sent B5 and B4 is coming today.
legendary
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There are most likely no real batches-there are two machines with 135 and 154 chips respectfully, which engineers/marketing sliced and diced into "batches" based on individual machine variability.

if this is the case,, they need to send me my   sh**t  Smiley
legendary
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There are most likely no real batches-there are two machines with 135 and 162154 chips respectfully, which engineers/marketing sliced and diced into "batches" based on individual machine variability.
legendary
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Ouch... Angry Bitmain really should change some policies. I ordered several batch 6's at $1625 each. And now batch 7 w/ 5th shipping the same time mine are, arg.

If they were going out a month after or even two weeks i'd understand more. Not much I can do but vent a little.


well I mean...batch 7 is still overpriced.  Funny how its priced in btc though....maybe if btc goes up to 500 and its still 5.05btc you wont feel that bad?

I believe that's the reason it is priced in BTC.  BITMAIN, believes the price of BTC will go up instead of down.  Hence, pricing it in BTC like they did with the S1 when the price of BTC was high.

fr4nkthetank - 500 at 5.05 would make me feel a liiiitle better lol. I do believe time is running thin for cheap btc. Once the halving media drums begin beating it should be a steady rise. Although... margin trading I think is detrimental to organic pricing with manufactured price swings on the books. I guess we'll see how the market behaves to buying pressure vis a vis whale shenanigans.

dmwardjr - Agreed, I think through sales and other metrics they can gauge the interest level and potential for BTCs price in our near future. I'd take the new batch 7 pricing as a monetary strategy based on Bitmain's projected earnings.



I think all conditions are green for a huge pump.  There has been massive accumulation of btc in my opinion (look at low to moderate volume periods, with what seems like a price floor).  The halving in itself means nothing, except for less selling pressure AFTER it happens, but it is a good excuse/reason to pump and entice massive buying once the price skyrockets.  Financial types have been buying too as were reported in many articles on mainstream media, and they are out for one thing - profit.  they dont care about nothing but profit.  So dont sell and hold on tight we are heading for a wild ride.  But dont kid yourself, it will crash down like Iggy Azalea's career.  have fun.  


└(°ᴥ°)┘     nothing to do with btc but how did you draw this?


batch 8 is open!


https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201511170341298180m44675v0613

4.73btc for a 4730 gh machine? uses 1293 watts
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My Internet went down before i woke up this AM.

My S5s came back online when the internet came back up...but my S7 (batch 1) didn't. I can still see it when i check it thru my LAN. All the ASICs are there and have all 0's but there is no hashing. The fans are running too.

I rebooted. No change. I switched PSUs - still no change. I did a few reboots- no change. Then i reset it to factory settings- still no change. Finally, i called Bitmain in Denver. The tech guy used chrome remote desktop to look at my kernel log , miner status etc. Then he shh'd into my rig. He couldn't find a problem either.

So I will be contacting Bitmain to see what can be done.

Has anyone else had this problem?

I have this issue, go into Network>Diagnostic and then ping something. Go back after a minute and check if it is hashing.

Tried that already. The ping was successful but still no hashing.

Someone analyzed my kernel log today and replied with this:

"this looks like memory problem with your beagle bone black
change it with another BBB or find S5 BBB and reflash it for S7"

Bitmain said"

"i would suggest you to obtain micro SD card. and to mount s7 firmware from https://www.bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=00720151023101739550pOBiK5sO06A0

on sd card.

and then to place it in unit. maybe then unit will start working."

I will try that and let you guys know if it worked. I'm guessing more people will have this problem. If this fixes i, that would be nice.


I'd be very interested if this works for future units.  I have already sent the 9 hashcards and 3 controllers back to Bitmain.

It didn't work.
legendary
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Is OregonMines a reputable hosting/colocation facility?  Has anyone done business with Matt Carson, VP Sales at OregonMines?

I need hosting/colocation for my S7s.

Stay the hell away. Matt Carson is involved with them.... and if he is, they're definitely dodgy as well
legendary
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Typical hash rate and power

Voltage(V) Hash Rate(GH/S) Current(A) Total power(W) W/GH
0.71             38.75                14.350     10.189            0.263
0.66             32.50                10.760      7.102             0.219

hmmm Huh?

B7 - 162 chips - 1278W - Rated Voltage: 12.0V+5%, should not be less than 12.0V

B8 - 135 chips - 1293W - Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V

what's going on ? techies, chime in
legendary
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Maybe batch 7 can be oced at 700 mhz as well???
legendary
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could be a typo at BMT side ?

it's a 1 month ahead pre-order minimum !!! i'd say 5 weeks when u place order & send your btc to bmt
legendary
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I wonder if they work good being so overclocked?
legendary
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Wow batch 8 with 4.7e th/s and 700 mhz def freq. Huh?
legendary
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Is OregonMines a reputable hosting/colocation facility?  Has anyone done business with Matt Carson, VP Sales at OregonMines?

I need hosting/colocation for my S7s.

Don't do it...Matt Carson was part of Minersource & ripped off alot of folks from the BlackArrow groupbuy  Angry

He still owes quite abit of monies yet...& miners Roll Eyes
sr. member
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less hashrate, more power consumption... makes sense.
hero member
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BUY

ANTMINER S7 BATCH 8


AntMiner S7 BATCH 8 with 4.73th/s is available to order. Shipping may start between Dec. 18 ~ 28 (if shipped out 5 days later than it, it won't be considered as delay ).

https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm

Another Day, another S7 variant, 135 Chip & 700MHz this time, someone is having a laugh....  Smiley


Rich
legendary
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BUY

ANTMINER S7 BATCH 8


AntMiner S7 BATCH 8 with 4.73th/s is available to order. Shipping may start between Dec. 18 ~ 28 (if shipped out 5 days later than it, it won't be considered as delay ).

https://www.bitmaintech.com/product.htm

Default Frequency: 700M

 Power Consumption: 1293W + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)

 Power Efficiency: 0.25 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)

 Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V

 Chip quantity per unit: 135x BM1385
legendary
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B5 shipped. earlier than expected. hmmmm but the no more b7
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Assuming there is a Batch #8, I wonder if it will be a 135 chip miner (ala Batch #6), or a 162 chip version (ala Batch 1-5 & 7). It seems odd that they would go to the trouble of making new boards for Batch 6, and only do that one batch. Would it be possible to take a 54-chip board (i.e. the 162-chip miner) and stuff in 3 dummy non-hashing chips into each string to make a 45-chip Batch #6 board? That would eliminate the board re-design.

It's really going to take a score-card to keep all the flavours of S7 and their various attributes straight. Should make for a crazy resale market in the future.

Yes would love to be fly on the wall at Bitmain and hear the discussion behind all these variants? They could probably depopulate a 54 Chip bard & make a 45 Chip. I think in practice you would just miss out 3 chip tripples from the most convenient point in the middle of the chain and link across the data signals and power.



There is actually a very convenient point to do this. Red shows the path up the tripple node string starting in the top left corner. Blue shows where you could conveniently link across bypassing 3 nodes / 9 chips. That said I had assumed they would rev the board?


Rich
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