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newbie
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November 18, 2014, 10:20:32 PM
currently trying new U3 since last week.
with the latest cgminer fork from bitmain's website it seems to work without zombie now.

But:
is there a way to have an U3 and U1 mining on the same Win7 machine? I know U1 is like a joke, but all this kinda below 1 TH is a game these days. Smiley

any way to monitor temp of u3 and adjust the very NOISY FAN?

Quote
Noise: ~25 DB at 25 °C ambient temperature

this here is never ever at 25 db  (at 20 celsius room) more like 60-70 db.




Hello:
      Fan don't pwm adj.
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November 18, 2014, 10:01:50 PM
Well I have actually been able to get the U3 to run under windows, so far the best I have been able to get is 43 GH/s and it still randomly Zombies after a few hours (it will always do it if the computer is set to sleep, turn off sleep settings and USB suspend and it runs for a few hours at least).
If anyone else gets the LIBUSB error flash before the device Zombie's out and gives device not found error, here is how I fixed that.
Note: I strongly suggest you make a backup of drivers, create a system restore point and a full system backup before attempting !

First delete ALL USB devices AND Drivers in your system. (If you don't know how to do this either look it up or move your miner to a different machine or get help)
Then reinstall all USB devices and drivrs from scratch. Then install silabs driver, then install win driver using Zadig. Restart machine then plug in U3, start bitmain cgminer version.
I have best results so far using 0755 for voltage  0982 for freq and 0.9 for baud.  Those settings give me a typical early rate of 50 GH/s that slows as it runs to average about 43 GH/s over a few hours.
Now I have yet to find any way to run two of these on the same computer, just won't seem to let second one run under same instance of cgminer and trying two instances creates system resource conflict with these.
As for a working Rpi image, well no luck yet, it should be a pretty simple matter to create one if driver is integrated into main cg fork.


To Kolivas (e.g. CrazyGuy) Thanks for taking on this project of integrating the driver for us Smiley


EDIT:
I am now using settings of 0795 for voltage  1306 for freq and 0.9 for baud.   This is giving me a pretty consistent 53 GH/s (although it still Zombies out after 8 or 9 hours for some reason that I have yet to figure out).
I am not going any higher with voltage since I don't want to start a fire. Will still be playing with drivers, freq and buad settings to try to find the best combo for GH/s  to error rate.

If anyone gets a working Rpi image please let us know. Maybe we can figure out a way to upload it and post a link so others can use it.
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November 18, 2014, 07:34:20 PM
The point and what you said are valid, i've seen too many power supplies come from China which can only be called an electrical death trap and/or an EMC compliance nightmare.

Seriously, anyone can get power supplies that can kick out 6A, we don't need power supplies that will either throw out too much RFI or burn someones house to the ground, after all, anyone reselling these in Europe (and I assume other countries, but I wouldn't know) will be liable for it.

These are the same PSUs you buy in the US and EU from Amazon - it all comes from China. We looked at making a no PSU SKU and the price wouldn't make a lot of sense so everyone would buy the with PSU SKU.

1.
Pieh0 is right, there is a big internal difference between a well designed quality psu and a cheap firestarter...
You are welcome to post a full CE check report and PICs from the internal design

2.
It make no sense to pay high air freight cost for a PSU


So please offer them without PSU and let customer decide (if anybody want to buy them ;-))


Since the power brick supplied using the settings they suggest pretty much started melting on me does anyone know of a decent replacement I can pick up off amazon or something?

There's some links in my rbox guides

 Roll Eyes

Is it possible to power the U3s from a Molex with the correct adapter?  I melted, a power supply last night running at bmsc-voltage 0780 --bmsc-freq 1306, which was as high as I could get w/o too many h/w errors

Is Bitman going to replace our burned out power supplies,

Guess that is kind of two questions

Barbara

My thoughts exactly, yxt Smiley
legendary
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November 18, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
Is it possible to power the U3s from a Molex with the correct adapter?  I melted, a power supply last night running at bmsc-voltage 0780 --bmsc-freq 1306, which was as high as I could get w/o too many h/w errors

Is Bitman going to replace our burned out power supplies,

Guess that is kind of two questions

Barbara

I'm not running these miners,but I used these cables to run the little Gridseeds.



You can buy em from Cablez ,you should be able to run at least 3 U3's.

Just don't exceed 200 watts or so & you should be fine  Wink

He might make em with just 3 barrel connectors,if you ask him nicely  Cheesy
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
November 18, 2014, 02:51:09 PM
Is it possible to power the U3s from a Molex with the correct adapter?  I melted, a power supply last night running at bmsc-voltage 0780 --bmsc-freq 1306, which was as high as I could get w/o too many h/w errors
Barbara

Yes to molexes, or PCI-E cables.
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
November 18, 2014, 02:35:25 PM
When is Bitmain going to merge U3 support into the main CGMiner? The CGminer that supports U3 does NOT work with my Rockminer!
As per all previous bitmain hardware, they have slapped together a driver as quickly as they possibly can making for a mess of code that doesn't merge into mainline cgminer, and they haven't approached us about either getting our help, merging their code, or providing hardware for us to fix the driver for them. Someone else will probably send us some hardware and we'll eventually write our own driver is what normally happens (and bound to happen again).
I sense a nice change in the air. They've contacted me offering me a U3 (after this message). While the value of one U3 is nowhere near enough to cover the development costs if I'd charged to merge and fix their driver, I've always been happy to do the same for existing drivers for when the manufacturer has freely offered it to me and will do so again here. Hopefully this means more official drivers in cgminer for bitmain products and hopefully they'll merge back our changes instead of maintaining their own various forks indefinitely.

[I asked them to contact you to fix pimp the driver about a day ago, before you posted]
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November 18, 2014, 01:15:01 PM
OK, it settled down but not as I was hoping.  It did run in the high 50's for a few minutes then started to hash lower and lower and lower rates.  Still getting lots of hardware errors and the power brick is hotter than the device.  Since it is now hashing in the 30 GH/s range, I switched back the voltage & frequency to 0755 and 0782 before my power brick melts too.  Back to getting 40 GH/s with no HW errors.
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November 18, 2014, 12:52:45 PM
Is it possible to power the U3s from a Molex with the correct adapter?  I melted, a power supply last night running at bmsc-voltage 0780 --bmsc-freq 1306, which was as high as I could get w/o too many h/w errors

Is Bitman going to replace our burned out power supplies,

Guess that is kind of two questions

Barbara
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November 18, 2014, 12:35:21 PM

  try voltage 0800 freq 1286 with --bmsc-options 115200:0.57


OK this seems to work, I'm getting high 50's GH/s, close enough to 60.  But it does kick out a bunch of "AMU: Invalid noonce - HW error" messages, at about the same rate as it solves hashes.  At lower voltage and frequency settings it gives no hardware errors but lower hashrate.  I've only been running it for 5 mins at this new frequency, so maybe it will settle down.  Should I worry about these hardware error messages or is this normal?


  about ZOMBIE issue,we have answer in another post #210
 

I tried that last night before I went to bed and it was still running this morning so it appears the zombie problem is solved.  I think I may have this thing working more or less properly now as long as the HW error notices are not an issue.
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November 18, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
ok, can confirm!  hotplug U1 works with less speed.

can you comment on the fan speed and noise?
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 08:20:04 AM
currently trying new U3 since last week.
with the latest cgminer fork from bitmain's website it seems to work without zombie now.

But:
is there a way to have an U3 and U1 mining on the same Win7 machine? I know U1 is like a joke, but all this kinda below 1 TH is a game these days. Smiley

any way to monitor temp of u3 and adjust the very NOISY FAN?

Quote
Noise: ~25 DB at 25 °C ambient temperature

this here is never ever at 25 db  (at 20 celsius room) more like 60-70 db.



  Just get the U3 mined as usual,after it worked ,connect U1 to your Win7.Since the setting is not suitable for U1,both of the miners work,but U1`s hashrate is lower as indepdent,
about 930M/s.
full member
Activity: 122
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November 18, 2014, 07:06:46 AM
currently trying new U3 since last week.
with the latest cgminer fork from bitmain's website it seems to work without zombie now.

But:
is there a way to have an U3 and U1 mining on the same Win7 machine? I know U1 is like a joke, but all this kinda below 1 TH is a game these days. Smiley

any way to monitor temp of u3 and adjust the very NOISY FAN?

Quote
Noise: ~25 DB at 25 °C ambient temperature

this here is never ever at 25 db  (at 20 celsius room) more like 60-70 db.


newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
November 18, 2014, 06:04:18 AM
This is pathetic! I can't believe Bitmain would release a product with no solid instructions or mining software to support it.

Maybe if we all email bitmain asking for an Rpi image for the U3 that works they would post one (and for anyone not planning to use an Rpi we could always deconstruct it if we know the cg version used).
I have tried everything I could think of using the settings designed for the new chip. I am now going through options settings for the old ones to see if any work (i.e. icarus options with amu setting etc.)
 So far no luck with anything.                                        Huh

Waiting on engineer (currently 8am).

We had supported here
https://www.bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=007201404130633105772QFG6R2u0635

While I appreciate your attempt to help, the link you are offering is exactly what I have been using for days now and still can't get this thing to run for more than a few seconds before it Zombie's out.
I am running the miner under Windows 7 using the Bitmain cgminer version from that link. I have reinstalled all drivers multiple times. (which is why I am now trying to compile an Rpi image that works before I just give up and sell my U3's on ebay)


About Zombie, don't set pc to sleep. Please offer screenshort when Zombie.
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
November 18, 2014, 05:53:50 AM
When is Bitmain going to merge U3 support into the main CGMiner? The CGminer that supports U3 does NOT work with my Rockminer!
As per all previous bitmain hardware, they have slapped together a driver as quickly as they possibly can making for a mess of code that doesn't merge into mainline cgminer, and they haven't approached us about either getting our help, merging their code, or providing hardware for us to fix the driver for them. Someone else will probably send us some hardware and we'll eventually write our own driver is what normally happens (and bound to happen again).
I sense a nice change in the air. They've contacted me offering me a U3 (after this message). While the value of one U3 is nowhere near enough to cover the development costs if I'd charged to merge and fix their driver, I've always been happy to do the same for existing drivers for when the manufacturer has freely offered it to me and will do so again here. Hopefully this means more official drivers in cgminer for bitmain products and hopefully they'll merge back our changes instead of maintaining their own various forks indefinitely.
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 05:49:37 AM
Try this:
Code:
cgminer.exe --bmsc-options 115200:0.65   -o xxx -u xxx  --bmsc-voltage 0800 --bmsc-freq 1306

Using these settings raised my GH/s from 40 to 50 but now I am getting large number of Hardware Errors saying Invalid Nonce.  The vast majority of all frequency settings spit out this same error except for 0755 voltage 0782 freq and 0755 voltage and 0882 freq, but I only get 30 and 40 GH/s on these settings.

Also, I haven't been able to get it to run for more than 12 hours without going ZOMBIE or just sitting there hashing at 250 MH/s.

Any ideas before I just get rid of this thing?

EDIT:  Lasted for a whole 7 minutes at 50 GH/s, now is ZOMBIE.  Going back to the 0755 setting for a whopping 40 GH/s. 

  try voltage 0800 freq 1286 with --bmsc-options 115200:0.57
  about ZOMBIE issue,we have answer in another post #210
  
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 05:48:32 AM
i have had best luck with this command about 45GH/s but not even close to 63GH/s as advertised "hassle free setup" not really
cgminer.exe --bmsc-options 115200:1 -o stratum+tcp://us1.ghash.io:3333 -u user -p password --bmsc-voltage 0750 --bmsc-freq 0882

can anyone let me know how to mine with multiple u3 in the same cgminer

Please set like this   ./cgminer --bmsc-options 115200:1 --bmsc-voltage 0755 --bmsc-freq 0782
The voltage is too low, should at least 0725(turn to Readme)
For the issue about mining multiple U3 in the same cgminer, please connect the USB cable of each U3 into the same PC, or use the same USB hub, connected and run cgminer. Please noted that connection order must be - plug one side of 12V AC/DC power brick into U3, and plug the other side into AC input. Then, connect U3 and the computer via the USB line.

^^^ Thats a BITMAIN engineer.

Following the instructions provided above with a fresh compile of CGMiner from: https://github.com/bitmaintech/cgminer I still get an abort:


Code:
[2014-11-14 07:56:45] ---------------------start voltage----------------------
 [2014-11-14 07:56:45] Send voltage aab755c2
 [2014-11-14 07:56:45] Send voltage ok
 [2014-11-14 07:56:45] -----------------start freq-------------------
 [2014-11-14 07:56:46] Send frequency 82078211
 [2014-11-14 07:56:46] Send freq getstatus 84000400
 [2014-11-14 07:56:49] Recv 1 freq getstatus=8007000201
 [2014-11-14 07:56:49] Recv 2 freq getstatus=800f00020a
 [2014-11-14 07:56:49] Recv 3 freq getstatus=800f00020a
 [2014-11-14 07:56:49] Recv 4 freq getstatus=800f00020a
 [2014-11-14 07:56:49] --------recv freq getstatus ok finish---------
 [2014-11-14 07:56:50] -----------------start nonce------------------
 [2014-11-14 07:56:50] Bmsc send golden nonce
 [2014-11-14 07:56:50] AMU0 Init: mode=default read_time=100ms limit=0ms Hs=2.976100e-09
 [2014-11-14 07:56:50] Hotplug: Bitmain added AMU 0
 [1]    14682 abort      ./cgminer --bmsc-options 115200:1 --bmsc-voltage 0755 --bmsc-freq 0782

CGMiner then closes/crashes.

This happens on both a Ubuntu 14.04 box as well as a OSX 10.9.5 laptop.

If Bitmain can't provide software that actually works with their hardware as they claim why would I ever buy their products again?

Please using U3 in Windos.
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November 18, 2014, 05:44:29 AM
This is pathetic! I can't believe Bitmain would release a product with no solid instructions or mining software to support it.

Maybe if we all email bitmain asking for an Rpi image for the U3 that works they would post one (and for anyone not planning to use an Rpi we could always deconstruct it if we know the cg version used).
I have tried everything I could think of using the settings designed for the new chip. I am now going through options settings for the old ones to see if any work (i.e. icarus options with amu setting etc.)
 So far no luck with anything.                                        Huh

Waiting on engineer (currently 8am).

We had supported here
https://www.bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=007201404130633105772QFG6R2u0635

While I appreciate your attempt to help, the link you are offering is exactly what I have been using for days now and still can't get this thing to run for more than a few seconds before it Zombie's out.
I am running the miner under Windows 7 using the Bitmain cgminer version from that link. I have reinstalled all drivers multiple times. (which is why I am now trying to compile an Rpi image that works before I just give up and sell my U3's on ebay)
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 04:25:52 AM
Hey guys, thanks so much for the help. I'm not there yet, but now one step closer in the right direction. I created the .bat file, but then i couldn't get CGminer to start from it (open the .txt file with CGminer?) Then, i used that code to try the shortcut method again, and it worked this time!  CGminer opened and responded, but it still isn't hashing. It seems to be caught in a loop where it: sends votage, ok, send golden nonce, bmsc golden nonce timeout...other stuff spaming... then
Bitmain detect <5:3>  failed to initialize.

So still nothing. So far i've only tried it with Slush's Pool and a few other here mentioned having issues on Slush with this as well; might that be it?  I'm done for tonight, but i'll be back at this tomorrow!  Thanks for the help so far.

Hi,

Pls try to install USB driver again referring to manual https://www.bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=007201404130632574925y76a4v50657
Make sure you select CP2102   USB.   
newbie
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November 18, 2014, 04:24:55 AM
This is pathetic! I can't believe Bitmain would release a product with no solid instructions or mining software to support it.

Maybe if we all email bitmain asking for an Rpi image for the U3 that works they would post one (and for anyone not planning to use an Rpi we could always deconstruct it if we know the cg version used).
I have tried everything I could think of using the settings designed for the new chip. I am now going through options settings for the old ones to see if any work (i.e. icarus options with amu setting etc.)
 So far no luck with anything.                                        Huh

Waiting on engineer (currently 8am).

We had supported here
https://www.bitmaintech.com/support.htm?pid=007201404130633105772QFG6R2u0635
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 18, 2014, 04:20:15 AM
Just a preliminary post, "BUT" I may know why these things aren't hashing correctly and I don't think it has anything to do with the chips or power.

Can you give us more information?


Here is a copy of my cgminer screen.

Code:
cgminer version 4.6.1 - Started: [2014-11-17 23:44:37]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):60.29G (1m):58.33G (5m):55.83G (15m):44.99G (avg):56.02Gh/s
 A:17920  R:0  HW:2  WU:782.5/m
 Connected to nl2.stratum.io diff 32 with stratum as user Elliann.u3
 Block: 67e570ce...  Diff:39.6G  Started: [23:44:37]  Best share: 64.5K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: AMU 0       :                |        | 55.30G / 56.01Gh/s WU:782.5/m

It has been a very long long night.   I have seen spikes of near 65GH/s with the following start command and replacing of the Power with a bigger brick.   That was a snap shot of about 10 minutes running.

Command Line Args:
Code:
--bmsc-options 115200:0.65 --bmsc-freq 0D82 --bmsc-voltage 0850

I wouldn't recommend this for others just yet.  Also if anyone knows a better one to reach what was promised please let me know but for now this is stable.  I will attempt to post video's and Picture's tomorrow to show what lengths I had to go through to get this to work.  Granted the base components are 1x120mm Fan, 1 Gridseed Power Connector, 1 "Cincinnati Tool CO." C-Clamp, and the corner of my table for now.  I am hoping to find some components tomorrow to redesign the bottom half of the case tomorrow.  Yes this is where I believe the entire problem is.  But like I said I will dig a bit more tomorrow.

Also if Bitmain has anymore then just coupon's that I can't use to give me, please let me know.  (I don't spend BTC for mining equipment...  USD ONLY....) to add please do?  Also added name here to name there.  I got 1 from minersource.net.  You will see what I want to order in my cart.

--bmsc-freq 0D82 is setted at a large frequency. You shall modify '0D82' to '0982' which is the max frequency for U3.
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